It’s Both — Living in the Messy Middle
The messy middle isn't always about a crisis you can name. Sometimes it's quietly losing your sense of self inside a relationship that looks fine from the outside — and not having language for what's actually happening until years later. Dr. Jordin Wiggins is a naturopathic doctor, pleasure and intimacy coach, and founder of the Pleasure Collective. She built a thriving health clinic, checked every box success was supposed to look like, and was still disconnected, exhausted, and quietly unraveling underneath it — both in her business and in a relationship she didn't yet have language to call abusive. In this episode, Jordin and I talk about starting over with your own desire after burnout, after betrayal blindness, and after losing your sense of agency inside your own home. We talk about why sexual dysfunction often isn't a personal failing at all — it's a power imbalance, an invisible labor problem, or a nervous system too dysregulated to access pleasure. We talk about responsive versus spontaneous desire, the orgasm gap, and why women's pleasure centers shut down in survival mode. And we get into what it actually felt like for her — a successful clinic owner who solved other people's problems all day — to rebuild her own identity, and her own desire, from nothing. This is also deeply personal for me. We talk about my own relationship in my teens and twenties, and the both/and of loving someone while slowly disappearing inside that love. This is a conversation about grief, identity shift, transition anxiety, and the messy middle of rebuilding your relationship to your own body, your own pleasure, and your own worth after everything falls apart. For anyone who has ever felt successful on paper and empty underneath — this one is for you. Get Connected & Support the Show: - Grab your free resource [https://itsboth.kit.com/873c6c3733] and be the first to know when the workbook is live. - Order Dr. Jordin Wiggins book HERE [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1982238747?pf_rd_p=2d1ab404-3b11-4c97-b3db-48081e145e35&pf_rd_r=PXMEX3FS6M2DP87Q0RSY] - Follow Dr. Jordin Wiggins on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/drjordinwiggins/] or visit her website [https://www.thepleasurecollective.com/] - Listen to the companion podcast: It's Both- Guided Meditations for Anxiety, Emotional Regulation, & Real Life Transitions [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-both-guided-meditations-for-anxiety-emotional-regulation/id1869673956] - Subscribe, rate, & review It's Both on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-both/id1811385185]
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