Stop Managing Everything: How to Build a Summer Routine Kids Actually Follow (with Nicole Gambino)

Stop Managing Everything: How to Build a Summer Routine Kids Actually Follow (with Nicole Gambino)

Nicole Gambino is back — and if her last episode on raising responsible kids resonated, this one's the summer-specific follow-through. The problem isn't your kid. It's that executive functioning (initiating, following through, self-regulating) is treated as something kids should already have, instead of a skill that has to be explicitly taught. Nicole walks through the system: realistic expectations, a 5-minute weekly "huddle," anchoring chores to transitions instead of vague to-dos, and letting kids co-author their own responsibilities so the routine actually survives past week one. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN * Why "just remind them" isn't a routine — it's you doing the executive functioning for your kid * The difference between a chore that sticks and one that never gets done * How to run a 5-minute "Sunday huddle" that gets kids to state their own responsibilities out loud * Age-appropriate chores and transition points, starting as young as 5 * Why letting your child write their own chore list creates more follow-through than any parent-enforced system * How to handle the summer schedule gap (camp days vs. non-camp days) without losing momentum ABOUT THE GUEST: NICOLE GAMBINO IS A PARENTING EXPERT WITH 17 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HELPING FAMILIES CREATE STRUCTURE, INDEPENDENCE, AND CONFIDENCE AT HOME. SHE HAS DEVELOPED A SYSTEM OF RITUALS AND GUARDRAILS DESIGNED TO SHIFT RESPONSIBILITY OFF OF PARENTS AND ONTO CHILDREN—EMPOWERING KIDS TO BECOME MORE CAPABLE WHILE EASING THE MENTAL LOAD ON MOMS. Key Insight: Nicole’s approach flips a common parenting pattern: instead of moms holding everything together, children are given the structure and responsibility to step up—creating a more balanced, sustainable family dynamic. Links + Resources: * Follow Nicole: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/nicolegambinoexecutivefunction/]+ https://www.instagram.com/nicolegambinoexecutivefunction/Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/nicole.hurleygambino] * Learn more about her work: NicoleGambino.com [http://NicoleGambino.com] * Follow ThatMom: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/] * Join the email list: EMAIL [https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom] Maria's Style Pick: One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying. This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway. Try it here with 50% off [https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program] If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long. And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.

Trusting Your Gut: One Mom's Guide to Saying No, Slowing Down, and Living Boldly

What does it actually look like to follow your instincts in motherhood — even when experts, teachers, and society tell you otherwise? In this episode, Maria sits down with Colleen Esposito, daughter of Boston radio icon Candy O'Terry, to talk about the courage it takes to live life on your own terms. Colleen left a high-powered advertising career after her first daughter was born — not because she had to, but because she knew herself well enough to know it wasn't the life she wanted. From that decision came a decade of intentional choices: staying home, homeschooling her two daughters, starting a free neighborhood flower stand that gave away over 600 bouquets last summer, and co-authoring a children's book series with her mom. In this conversation, you'll hear: * Why high-achieving women often struggle most with the "do it all" pressure — and how Colleen opted out * The moment a doctor told her something she'll never forget about trusting herself over experts * Why she and her husband pulled their thriving kids out of traditional school — and what happened next * The science behind why flowers actually make you happier (yes, really) * How saying no more often might be the most radical thing you do for your family this year This one is for the mom who has a gut feeling she keeps second-guessing. Colleen's story is a quiet permission slip to listen to it. Links + Resources: * Follow Colleen: https://www.instagram.com/colleen_esposito/ [https://www.instagram.com/colleen_esposito/] * Check out Nelson's Garden on Amazon [https://a.co/d/0bDLgM0g] * Follow ThatMom: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/] * Join the ThatMom Community: EMAIL [https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom] * Learn more: That Mom Website [https://riverside.com/www.thatmompodcast.com] Maria's Style Pick: One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying. This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway. Try it here with 50% off [https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program] If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long. And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.

Mom Guilt Isn't a You Problem. It's a Culture Problem.

The Myths of Motherhood: Why "Good Mother" Has Never Meant One Thing ft. Dr. Shari Thurer What if everything you think you know about what makes a "good mother" isn't instinct, isn't biology — it's just the story our culture happens to be telling right now? In this episode of That Mom, I talk with Dr. Shari Thurer, a psychoanalytically trained psychologist and author of The Myths of Motherhood: How Culture Reinvents the Good Mother. Dr. Thurer wrote the book nearly three decades ago, driven by her own fear (common among working mothers of her generation) that having a career might somehow damage her daughter. That fear sent her on a deep historical and cross-cultural dive — and what she found was that the definition of a "good mother" has never been fixed. It's changed dramatically across history and across cultures, which means the standard we're measuring ourselves against today isn't truth. It's a moment-in-time, culturally constructed myth. We talk about where mom guilt actually comes from (hint: an impossible ideal, not a personal failing), whether maternal instinct is even real, and the relief that comes from understanding that "good enough" — a term coined by psychoanalyst Donald Winnicott — really is good enough. What We Cover: * Why Dr. Turner started researching motherhood: her own fear that working would harm her daughter * The history of "good mother" standards — and how dramatically they've shifted over time * The frightening psychological theories of the past (like the "schizophrenogenic mother") * Whether maternal instinct is biological or culturally learned * Where mom guilt actually originates: an impossible, unattainable ideal About the Guest: Dr. Shari Thurer is a psychoanalytically trained psychologist based in Boston and the author of The Myths of Motherhood: How Culture Reinvents the Good Mother. She has practiced psychotherapy for decades and continues to see patients in Boston today. Links + Resources: * The Myths of Motherhood by Dr. Shari Thurer — available wherever books are sold and amazon [https://a.co/d/02qQ6OVK] * Follow ThatMom: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/] * Join the ThatMom Community: EMAIL [https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom] * Learn more: That Mom Website [https://riverside.com/www.thatmompodcast.com] Maria's Style Pick: One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying. This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway. Try it here with 50% off [https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program] If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long. And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most. *

Why Moms Are Wired to Worry More (Pt. 2 with Dr. Risa Weisberg)

Anxiety, Identity, and Becoming Who You Actually Want to Be (Part 2) ft. Dr. Risa Weisberg In Part 2 of my conversation with behavioral scientist Dr. Risa Weisberg, we shift from goals and motivation into something almost every mom feels but rarely understands: anxiety. Risa breaks down why anxiety isn't a flaw to eliminate but an alarm system that's actually doing its job — and why motherhood itself rewires the brain to make that alarm louder. We also dig into identity: why it feels so unsettled in motherhood, how much of who we think we are was actually decided for us in childhood through social comparison, and how — encouragingly — identity isn't fixed. You can change it through your behavior, not just the other way around. Risa shares her own experience traveling for work while raising two daughters, the fear of the story her kids might tell about her absence, and what she learned instead. We close with her advice for busy moms: pick what you really care about, and let the rest go. What We Cover: * Why anxiety exists and why eliminating it isn't actually the goal * The biology of fight-or-flight, and why it feels so wrong for modern, non-physical stress * Why moms are biologically wired to be the more anxious parent — and why that's not a flaw * What "identity" really is, and how much of it was set in early childhood * How identity can change through behavior, not just dictate it * Risa's own story: traveling for work, the fear of her kids' story about her, and what actually happened * Risa's current work, including her new project, Future Self AI About the Guest: Dr. Risa Weisberg is a psychologist, behavioral scientist, former digital health executive, speaker, and professor at Boston University. Her work focuses on behavior change, motivation, decision-making, and identity. She also coaches women through major life transitions and is a founding team member of Future Self AI. Links + Resources: * Connect or Learn more about Dr. Risa Weisberg [https://www.drrisaweisberg.com/] * Follow ThatMom: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco] * Join the ThatMom Community: EMAIL [https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom] * Learn more: That Mom Website [https://riverside.com/www.thatmompodcast.com] Maria's Style Pick: One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying. This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway. Try it here with 50% off [https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program] If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long. And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.

Why Smart, Capable Women Can't Stick to Their Goals (Pt. 1)

What if the secret to becoming the person you want to be isn't trying harder — but getting clearer about what actually matters? In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, I sit down with behavioral scientist and psychologist Dr. Risa Weisberg to explore why even the most capable, high-achieving women struggle to follow through on the goals that matter most to them. Risa has spent decades studying how people actually change their behavior — as a psychologist, former digital health executive, and professor. Together, we unpack the hidden reasons so many moms feel stuck, overwhelmed, and pulled in a hundred directions, and what actually creates lasting change. From values clarification and motivation to future-self thinking and the surprising role of disappointment, this episode is full of practical, research-backed tools for making decisions that align with who you actually want to become. What We Cover: * Why knowing what you want isn't enough * The difference between your goals and society's expectations * How to identify what you truly value * Why high-achieving women struggle to do "just fine" * The importance of understanding your deeper motivation * The psychology of your future self * The surprising connection between motherhood and people-pleasing * How learning to disappoint others can help you stop disappointing yourself * Why intentional choices reduce guilt and resentment * How to prioritize what matters in a season of limited time About the Guest: Dr. Risa Weisberg is a psychologist, behavioral scientist, former digital health executive, speaker, and professor at Boston University. Her work focuses on behavior change, motivation, decision-making, and helping people build sustainable habits that align with their values. Links + Resources: * Connect or Learn more about Dr. Risa Weisberg [https://www.drrisaweisberg.com/] * Follow ThatMom: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco] * Join the ThatMom Community: EMAIL [https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom] * Learn more: That Mom Website [https://riverside.com/www.thatmompodcast.com] Maria's Style Pick: One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying. This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway. Try it here with 50% off [https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program] If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long. And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.