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Walking the Camino: Faith, Family, and Doing Hard Things: A Conversation with Dave and Jll McLain

37 min · 28. juli 2026
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What can a 173-mile pilgrimage teach a family about faith, resilience, and life together? Dave and Jll McLain join Pastor Nate on Together 4 Good to share how they walked the Camino de Santiago from Porto, Portugal, to Santiago de Compostela, Spain, with their four children. Along the way, aching feet, welcoming villages, fellow pilgrims, and small acts of generosity open into a conversation about family sabbaticals, resilience, faith milestones, and why shared challenges can make strangers feel like family. In This Episode •    The Camino’s Christian roots and its modern life as a global pilgrimage route •    Why the McLains chose the Portuguese Way and walked 280 kilometers in 13 consecutive days •    How physical challenge creates resilience, perspective, and lasting family memories •    The scallop shell, pilgrim passport, and rituals that build connection along the way •    How hospitality and generosity let entire communities participate in a pilgrimage Key Takeaways •    Hard things become part of our toolbox. Completing a difficult journey gives us evidence that we can face the next challenge. •    Pilgrimage is communal. The marked path, shared symbols, fellow travelers, and hospitality of local communities remind us that faith is never practiced alone. •    Milestones matter. Camino stamps and certificates echo the faith markers—baptism, confirmation, a first Bible—that help us remember where we have been. •    Travel and time together are intentional investments. Encountering other cultures can nurture empathy while meaningful family experiences strengthen relationships into adulthood. Chapters 00:00  Coming up — A Christian pilgrimage through Portugal and Spain—and what it reveals about faith and parenting. 01:22  What is the Camino? — Dave traces the tradition of the Camino de Santiago and its modern revival. 04:40  Following the Way — Jll explains the route markers, pilgrim infrastructure, and villages that welcome walkers. 10:55  A family rhythm of sabbatical — Dave shares how extended family adventures grew from a commitment to work to live. 14:42  Why this journey, why now — Their oldest daughter’s idea becomes an invitation for the whole family. 16:45  Planning lightly — Experienced travelers, last-minute gear, and a willingness to figure things out together. 17:52  Thirteen days and 173 miles — The physical reality of walking about 14 miles a day—and when it finally began to feel possible. 20:08  We can do hard things — Challenge, shared struggle, and the experiences that equip children for real life. 22:00  Going through it — Why pilgrimage is not a resort experience, and how difficult moments can reshape us. 24:44  The scallop shell — A visible sign of belonging creates camaraderie and practical care among pilgrims. 27:26  Arriving in Santiago — The cathedral square, pilgrim’s Mass, passport stamps, and certificates of completion. 31:11  Generosity along the path — A box of plums becomes a picture of hospitality offered without recognition or thanks. 32:39  A microcosm of faith — The Camino reflects the highs, lows, community, and milestones of a life of faith. 33:43  Travel and empathy — Shared meals and cross-cultural experiences help form curiosity, tolerance, and love. 34:58  Choosing time with adult children — Dave and Jll reflect on the privilege, sacrifice, and joy of saying yes to time together.

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