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Little Mermaid Communication: TALK Framework with Chalise

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The Little Mermaid and the Art of Real Communication What happens when a parent refuses to listen to their child? The Little Mermaid shows us the cost. King Triton's unwillingness to have a genuine conversation with Ariel—his refusal to ask questions, to understand her perspective, to meet her where she is—doesn't protect her. It pushes her straight into Ursula's arms. Chalise, a certified financial planner and certified divorce financial analyst, knows from her professional practice that communication breakdown is often the root cause of everything else that falls apart. Today we're breaking down the TALK framework from Harvard communication expert Allison Woodbrooks, and learning how to have conversations that actually build connection instead of destroy it. 🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways (Pulled directly from Chalise's closing segment) 1. Practice T, A, L, and K Consistently — Spend time studying and improving the TALK framework (Topics, Asking, Levity, Kindness) in your everyday conversations. Why it works: The more you practice these four elements, the better communicator you become, and that improvement trickles into every aspect of your life—relationships, parenting, work, everything. 2. Prepare Topics Before Important Conversations — Spend a little time beforehand thinking about a few things you can bring to the conversation, even just 30 seconds of mental prep. Why it works: Being prepared reduces anxiety, makes everybody more relaxed, and helps the conversation flow better from the start. 3. Ask Better Questions and Listen Actively — Ask follow-up questions, show the person you care by making eye contact and being present, and listen to understand rather than to respond. Why it works: Active listening demonstrates that you genuinely value what the other person is saying, which builds real connection and trust. 🔦 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS * King Triton's refusal to have a conversation with Ariel mirrors what happens in real divorces—communication breakdown is often the root cause of everything else that falls apart * The TALK framework: Topics (prepare), Asking (follow-up questions), Levity (sparkle and fizz), Kindness (the most important element) * How asking "What do you need from me?" can be one of the most effective questions in hard conversations * The difference between genuine curiosity and asking questions just to steer the conversation back to yourself * Why body language matters more than words—Ursula's threatening body language creates distrust before she ever speaks * How to break through one-word answers from your kids by naming it with humor and levity, then reloading the conversation * The power of acknowledgment first: "It makes sense that you're feeling this way" opens the door to real dialogue 👤 ABOUT CHALISE WESTENKOW Chalise Westenkow is a Certified Financial Planner and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst who helps people make good financial decisions when the stakes are high and emotions are high. A Sandy, Utah native who studied economics at the University of Utah, she brings both analytical rigor and deep empathy to her work—whether she's helping families navigate retirement planning or guiding clients through the financial complexity of divorce. Her professional practice has taught her that communication breakdown is often the thread that, when pulled, unravels everything else. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chalise-westenskow/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chalise-westenskow/] 📺 ABOUT YES AND LAND Yes And Land explores the leaders....

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episode Little Mermaid Communication: TALK Framework with Chalise cover

Little Mermaid Communication: TALK Framework with Chalise

The Little Mermaid and the Art of Real Communication What happens when a parent refuses to listen to their child? The Little Mermaid shows us the cost. King Triton's unwillingness to have a genuine conversation with Ariel—his refusal to ask questions, to understand her perspective, to meet her where she is—doesn't protect her. It pushes her straight into Ursula's arms. Chalise, a certified financial planner and certified divorce financial analyst, knows from her professional practice that communication breakdown is often the root cause of everything else that falls apart. Today we're breaking down the TALK framework from Harvard communication expert Allison Woodbrooks, and learning how to have conversations that actually build connection instead of destroy it. 🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways (Pulled directly from Chalise's closing segment) 1. Practice T, A, L, and K Consistently — Spend time studying and improving the TALK framework (Topics, Asking, Levity, Kindness) in your everyday conversations. Why it works: The more you practice these four elements, the better communicator you become, and that improvement trickles into every aspect of your life—relationships, parenting, work, everything. 2. Prepare Topics Before Important Conversations — Spend a little time beforehand thinking about a few things you can bring to the conversation, even just 30 seconds of mental prep. Why it works: Being prepared reduces anxiety, makes everybody more relaxed, and helps the conversation flow better from the start. 3. Ask Better Questions and Listen Actively — Ask follow-up questions, show the person you care by making eye contact and being present, and listen to understand rather than to respond. Why it works: Active listening demonstrates that you genuinely value what the other person is saying, which builds real connection and trust. 🔦 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS * King Triton's refusal to have a conversation with Ariel mirrors what happens in real divorces—communication breakdown is often the root cause of everything else that falls apart * The TALK framework: Topics (prepare), Asking (follow-up questions), Levity (sparkle and fizz), Kindness (the most important element) * How asking "What do you need from me?" can be one of the most effective questions in hard conversations * The difference between genuine curiosity and asking questions just to steer the conversation back to yourself * Why body language matters more than words—Ursula's threatening body language creates distrust before she ever speaks * How to break through one-word answers from your kids by naming it with humor and levity, then reloading the conversation * The power of acknowledgment first: "It makes sense that you're feeling this way" opens the door to real dialogue 👤 ABOUT CHALISE WESTENKOW Chalise Westenkow is a Certified Financial Planner and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst who helps people make good financial decisions when the stakes are high and emotions are high. A Sandy, Utah native who studied economics at the University of Utah, she brings both analytical rigor and deep empathy to her work—whether she's helping families navigate retirement planning or guiding clients through the financial complexity of divorce. Her professional practice has taught her that communication breakdown is often the thread that, when pulled, unravels everything else. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chalise-westenskow/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chalise-westenskow/] 📺 ABOUT YES AND LAND Yes And Land explores the leaders....

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episode Inside Out and Why Nobody Listens | BJ Oldroyd cover

Inside Out and Why Nobody Listens | BJ Oldroyd

YES AND LAND — SHOW NOTES What happens when a leader stops listening and starts planning their reply instead? Inside Out shows us exactly that moment at the dinner table—when Riley's dad is so locked in his own head that he completely misses what his family is trying to communicate. BJ Oldroyd, who's spent years leading teams in the startup world and mastering the art of genuine human connection, breaks down why this happens and how to fix it. 🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways 1. Take a Breath Before You Respond — Pause for a beat before answering in any conversation, especially intense ones. Why it works: It stops you from reacting on pure emotion and gives you space to articulate what you actually mean instead of fumbling through it. 2. Be Mindful of How You're Perceived — Pay attention to your facial expressions and body language in conversations, especially if you're leading them. Why it works: Even if you're genuinely focused, you might look zoned out or upset, which makes the other person less likely to listen to what you have to say. 3. Talk Human to Human, Not Role to Role — Find moments to remove the business element and just connect as people, while maintaining professionalism. Why it works: When both sides see each other as humans first, harder conversations become possible because respect and genuine care are already established. 🔦 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS * The dinner table scene where Riley's dad is completely checked out—a perfect mirror of how we all listen with the intent to reply instead of to understand * BJ's story of breaking through with an older team member by simply asking if everything was okay, which led to a real conversation * The Stephen Covey quote: "Most people do not listen with the intent to understand. They listen with the intent to reply." * How Riley finally opens up to her parents: "I know you don't want me to, but I miss home"—the power of allowing someone to feel what they're feeling * The Inside Out moment where Joy embraces Sadness and core memories shift from pain to joy, showing that vulnerability leads to connection * BJ's two-pronged approach: asking "Can I offer you some feedback?" and then asking the person to identify their own areas for improvement first 👤 ABOUT BJ OLDROyD BJ is a Disney enthusiast and startup leader who's spent years building teams and fostering psychological safety in high-growth companies like Thumbtack. He's passionate about the human element of communication and believes that genuine connection—treating people as humans first, not roles—is the foundation of effective leadership. His love for Disney was rekindled in 2015 when a friend invited him to Disneyland, and he's been an annual passholder ever since. Connect with BJ: 🌐 https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-oldroyd-69598348/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-oldroyd-69598348/] 📺 ABOUT YES AND LAND Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons, relationship dynamics, and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson, a family law attorney at RCG Law Group, Disney enthusiast, and business coach for law firm owners at Altium Advisors, each episode connects familiar narratives to real-world wisdom you can actually use. New episodes every Thursday.

18. juni 20261 h 13 min
episode Nathan Hooper Pixar's Soul and the Art of Getting Unstuck | Nathan Hooper cover

Nathan Hooper Pixar's Soul and the Art of Getting Unstuck | Nathan Hooper

What if chasing your big break is actually the thing keeping you from living? Soul answers that question head-on. Joe Gardner spends his whole life waiting for the moment his purpose finally "arrives" — and nearly misses every moment that actually mattered. Nathan Hooper, account strategist at 97th Floor and sports psychology enthusiast, knows that pressure from the inside out — from door-to-door sales goals that crushed him, to a podcast built on helping people build lasting marriages, to the daily discipline of showing up without knowing the outcome. 🎯 3 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS (Pulled directly from Nathan's closing segment) 1. Find a Moment to Serve Someone This Week — Go outside your normal routine and take something off the plate of someone close to you — a spouse, family member, or friend. Why it works: Soul's biggest lesson is getting out of your own head. Serving others pulls you out of yourself and back into the present. 2. Find a Moment of Wonder — Whether it's a sunrise, a mountain view, a song, or a single beautiful leaf — pause and let it land. Why it works: Presence isn't passive. It's a practice. Wonder is the shortcut back to it. 3. Face Something Hard With a Smile — This week, when you hit an objection, a setback, or a rough moment, meet it with a smile on your face. Why it works: Smiling through the hard thing tells your brain I've got this — it reframes the moment before you even process it. 🔦 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS * Why Joe Gardner's "meaningless" pie scene is actually the most important moment in Soul * The door-to-door sales breakdown that taught Nathan more about purpose than any win ever could * How Nathan and his wife built a marriage prep podcast — and what they learned about alignment, values, and going in the same direction * What sports psychology taught Nathan about pressure, goals, and knowing when to reset your target * Why journaling — individually and together — unlocks things you didn't even know you needed to say to your partner * The reframe: how the same moment can feel meaningless or deeply significant depending on the lens you're looking through 👤 ABOUT NATHAN HOOPER Nathan Hooper is an account strategist at 97th Floor, a full-service digital marketing agency working with some of the most recognized brands in the world. A Utah native and West Jordan High School alum, Nathan is a sports psychology enthusiast, former e-trade broker, and veteran door-to-door sales leader who once ran a team in Austin, Texas chasing 1,000 contracts in a single summer. He and his wife co-hosted a podcast dedicated to helping engaged couples build a strong foundation before marriage — bringing in therapists, coaches, and real-world frameworks to fill a gap they noticed in the pre-marriage resource space. Connect with Nathan: 🌐 97th Floor: https://97thfloor.com97thfloor.com [http://97thfloor.com] 📺 ABOUT YES AND LAND Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons, relationship dynamics, and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson, a family law attorney at RCG Law Group, Disney enthusiast, and business coach for law firm owners at Altium Advisors, each episode connects familiar narratives to real-world wisdom you can actually use. New episodes every Thursday.

11. juni 202658 min
episode Turning Red: What Your Teen's Meltdowns Are Really Telling You | Mitchell Acton cover

Turning Red: What Your Teen's Meltdowns Are Really Telling You | Mitchell Acton

What if every time your teen shuts you out, they're not being difficult — they're actually developing exactly the way they should? Turning Red shows us why. Mei's red panda doesn't appear because she's broken — it appears because she's suppressing everything she's been taught not to feel. And that's exactly what Mitchell Acton, clinical director at Kane Counseling, sees play out with real families every day. 🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways 1. Parent from the Inside Out — Do your own emotional work before reacting to your teen. Why it works: If you were socially rejected at 13, your 13-year-old's struggles will trigger you — and you'll react to your wound, not their need. 2. Knock Before You Enter (Literally and Figuratively) — Contract with your teen for privacy before conflict arises. Why it works: Teens aren't shutting you out — they're building identity. Respecting that boundary keeps the door open for the conversations that matter. 3. Name Your Panda — Identify the messy, loud parts of yourself you've been suppressing. Why it works: You can't model emotional integration for your kids until you've practiced it yourself. Vulnerability is the most connecting thing a parent can offer. In this episode, Mitchell Acton — clinical director at Kane Counseling and licensed clinical social worker — joins Ryan to unpack what Turning Red gets startlingly right about adolescent development, family enmeshment, and why suppressed emotions always find a way out. Mitch's path mirrors the movie's arc: a natural "glue guy" who valued connection, struggled to find it, and eventually turned that pain into a career helping families navigate exactly what Mei and her mom couldn't. Using Turning Red as our lens, we explore why Mei's red panda is both a puberty metaphor and a symbol of every thought and feeling she learned wasn't safe to share — and what breaks that cycle across generations. HIGHLIGHTS * Why the red panda is actually a clinical-grade metaphor for puberty and suppressed adolescent emotion * The difference between empathy and enmeshment — and the one scene in Turning Red that shows enmeshment perfectly * Why your teen's peer relationships are developmentally essential (even when you don't love their friends) * What it means to "parent from the inside out" — and why your unresolved wounds become your kid's triggers * How generational patterns get passed down and what it takes to actually break them * The dad's quiet line in Turning Red that might be the most important parenting advice in the whole film ABOUT MITCHELL ACTON: Mitchell Acton is a licensed clinical social worker and the Clinical Director at Kane Counseling Center in the Salt Lake City area. With a Master of Social Work degree from the University of Utah, Mitch began his career working with at-risk teens at Gateway Academy in Draper. Known as the "glue guy" in his own friend group growing up, he now brings that same instinct for connection into his clinical work with families, couples, and individuals — specializing in adolescent development, emotion suppression, enmeshment, and healthy family systems. He's also a dad of three navigating all of this in real time. ABOUT YES AND LAND: Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons, relationship dynamics, and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson, a family law attorney at RCG Law Group, Disney enthusiast, and business coach for law firm owners at Altium Advisors, each episode connects familiar narratives to real-world wisdom you can actually use. New episodes every Thursday.

4. juni 20261 h 11 min
episode Meet the Robinsons and Keep Moving Forward | Courtney Kern on Curiosity & Resilience cover

Meet the Robinsons and Keep Moving Forward | Courtney Kern on Curiosity & Resilience

What if your biggest setbacks were secretly redirecting you to exactly where you're supposed to be? Meet the Robinsons shows us why. Lewis doesn't just lose — he fails publicly, repeatedly, and at the worst possible moments. But every failure is a forward step in disguise. That's the exact journey Courtney Kern has lived: from writing Keep Moving Forward as her college application essay to spending nearly 12 years inside the Walt Disney Company, watching ships launch and learning that curiosity — not a perfect plan — is what shapes your destiny. 🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways (Pulled directly from episode content) 1. Face Rejection Like Lewis – Lewis tracks 124 adoption rejections by name, not by shame. When you're in a job search, a pitch cycle, or a tough season, keep the tally — because the number means you're still in the game. Why it works: Rejection is data, not verdict. The right "family" is still ahead. 2. Reframe the Failure Before It Becomes Goob – When things go wrong, find someone to help you see it differently — a partner, a friend, a mentor. Goob had no one to reframe his baseball miss, and he wallowed for 30 years. You don't have to. Why it works: The story you tell yourself about failure determines whether it becomes a pivot or a prison. 3. Stay Curious, Keep Moving Forward – Don't just look at the result — ask why, like Olaf. Curiosity isn't passive; it's the active force that keeps you becoming instead of just being. Why it works: Complacency stops the clock. Curiosity keeps the path alive. In this episode, Courtney Kern — Disney Cruise Line analyst, co-host of the Disney book podcast Book of the Mouse Club, and Walt Disney Company insider — joins Ryan to unpack the underrated gem that is Meet the Robinsons. Her personal journey mirrors Lewis's story: a lifelong Disney fan who wrote Keep Moving Forward as her senior yearbook quote, then spent over a decade inside the Company that inspired that motto — even helping oversee the Disney Treasure cruise ship from naming to launch. Using Meet the Robinsons as our lens, we explore why Lewis's relentless curiosity and optimism — even in the face of 124 rejections — is what ultimately leads him home. And why Goob's inability to reframe one bad moment is a cautionary tale we all need to hear. 📚 WHAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE * Why reframing failure — not avoiding it — is the actual superpower Meet the Robinsons is teaching * How curiosity functions as a career and life strategy, not just a personality trait * What it looks like to live a Keep Moving Forward philosophy through real losses, redirections, and reinventions * 👤 ABOUT COURTNEY KERN Courtney Kern is a Disney Cruise Line analyst and Walt Disney Company employee with nearly 12 years inside the organization. She co-hosted Book of the Mouse Club, a Disney-inspired literary podcast spanning 120+ episodes over seven years alongside her college friend Emily. A lifelong Disney fan and alumna of the Disney College Program, Courtney has deep expertise in Disney history, cruise operations, and the power of storytelling. She even received a shoutout in Disney historian Jim Corkus's Disney Cruise Line book under her maiden name, Courtney Guth. Views expressed are her own and do not represent the Walt Disney Company.

28. mai 202657 min