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When the Role Changes: How to Turn Setbacks into Stronger Leadership w/ Casey Jacox

37 min · 10. Juni 2026
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Have you ever had a setback that challenged not just what you do—but who you are? In this episode, Jule sits down with Casey Jacox—sales & leadership expert, keynote speaker, author of Win the Relationship, Not the Deal, and host of the Quarterback DadCast. Casey shares a defining moment from his teenage years that challenged his sense of identity and changed the path he thought he was on. What followed taught him lasting lessons about vulnerability, resilience, and how to find purpose when circumstances unexpectedly change. For leaders facing setbacks, unexpected challenges, or moments that force them to adapt, Casey's story is a reminder that growth often begins when things don't go according to plan. In this conversation, Casey and Jule discuss: • Why vulnerability and asking for help are often the first steps toward growth as a leader • How adversity can reveal purpose, resilience, and new ways to contribute • The role curiosity plays in building stronger relationships and more effective teams • Why great leaders ask thoughtful questions instead of rushing to provide answers • How slowing down creates space for trust, clarity, and better decision-making • Why focusing on people and relationships leads to stronger long-term results If you're navigating change, leading through uncertainty, or looking to strengthen your impact as a leader, this episode will remind you that some of the most meaningful leadership lessons emerge from the challenges we never saw coming. Because leadership isn't defined by a title or a role. It's defined by how we respond when circumstances change. Connect with Casey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjacox/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjacox/] Website: https://caseyjacox.com/ [https://caseyjacox.com/] Connect with Jule: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/] Website: www.julesalem.com [http://www.julesalem.com/] Dialing In is a leadership podcast for operators, executives, and founders building under pressure. Each episode explores how connection—when it’s intentional—becomes a true performance advantage. Join us and subscribe to the show to be the first to hear new episodes.

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Episode When the Role Changes: How to Turn Setbacks into Stronger Leadership w/ Casey Jacox Cover

When the Role Changes: How to Turn Setbacks into Stronger Leadership w/ Casey Jacox

Have you ever had a setback that challenged not just what you do—but who you are? In this episode, Jule sits down with Casey Jacox—sales & leadership expert, keynote speaker, author of Win the Relationship, Not the Deal, and host of the Quarterback DadCast. Casey shares a defining moment from his teenage years that challenged his sense of identity and changed the path he thought he was on. What followed taught him lasting lessons about vulnerability, resilience, and how to find purpose when circumstances unexpectedly change. For leaders facing setbacks, unexpected challenges, or moments that force them to adapt, Casey's story is a reminder that growth often begins when things don't go according to plan. In this conversation, Casey and Jule discuss: • Why vulnerability and asking for help are often the first steps toward growth as a leader • How adversity can reveal purpose, resilience, and new ways to contribute • The role curiosity plays in building stronger relationships and more effective teams • Why great leaders ask thoughtful questions instead of rushing to provide answers • How slowing down creates space for trust, clarity, and better decision-making • Why focusing on people and relationships leads to stronger long-term results If you're navigating change, leading through uncertainty, or looking to strengthen your impact as a leader, this episode will remind you that some of the most meaningful leadership lessons emerge from the challenges we never saw coming. Because leadership isn't defined by a title or a role. It's defined by how we respond when circumstances change. Connect with Casey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjacox/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjacox/] Website: https://caseyjacox.com/ [https://caseyjacox.com/] Connect with Jule: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/] Website: www.julesalem.com [http://www.julesalem.com/] Dialing In is a leadership podcast for operators, executives, and founders building under pressure. Each episode explores how connection—when it’s intentional—becomes a true performance advantage. Join us and subscribe to the show to be the first to hear new episodes.

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The Gap Between Intent and Impact: How Small Communication Breakdowns Erode Trust (and How to Fix It) w/ Melanie Sue Hicks

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Episode From High Performer to Leader: The Playbook You Didn’t Get w/ Lia Garvin Cover

From High Performer to Leader: The Playbook You Didn’t Get w/ Lia Garvin

Have you ever stepped into leadership… and realized no one actually taught you how to lead people? In this episode, Jule sits down with Lia Garvin—author of The New Manager Playbook and host of Real Talk: Leading Small Teams. Lia shares the raw reality of becoming a first-time manager—navigating difficult team dynamics, strained peer relationships, and the pressure of leading without a roadmap. From managing an underperformer who resented her promotion to losing a close friendship after stepping into leadership, her experiences highlight what so many leaders go through—but rarely talk about. What changed everything wasn’t time. It was learning how to lead with intention, clarity, and structure. In this conversation, Lia and Jule discuss:  • Why high performers often struggle most when they first step into leadership   • How to reset relationships when managing former peers or friends   • The importance of setting boundaries—and why leadership is an identity shift   • How to build trust through consistent, specific recognition and follow-through   • Why clarity, structure, and practical frameworks make leadership easier over time  If you’re a leader who feels like you’re learning in real time, with everyone watching, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone. Because leadership isn’t something you’re just supposed to “figure out.” It’s something you learn, refine, and grow into—one conversation at a time. Connect with Lia: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liagarvin/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kalwarowsky/] Website: https://www.liagarvin.com/ [http://www.robkalwarowsky.com/]  Connect with Jule: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/] Website: www.julesalem.com [http://www.julesalem.com/] Dialing In is a leadership podcast for operators, executives, and founders building under pressure. Each episode explores how connection—when it’s intentional—becomes a true performance advantage. Join us and subscribe to the show to be the first to hear new episodes.

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Episode From Grind to Grounded: How Self-Awareness Unlocks Sustainable High-Performance w/ Rob Kalwarowsky Cover

From Grind to Grounded: How Self-Awareness Unlocks Sustainable High-Performance w/ Rob Kalwarowsky

Have you ever hit a major milestone and still felt like it wasn’t enough? In this episode, Jule sits down with Rob Kalwarowsky—TEDx speaker, executive coach, and author of Capitalizing on Chaos. Rob did everything right. Elite education. High-performance career. Massive financial impact early in his role. But behind the external success was an internal battle—a toxic work culture, relentless self-pressure, and a leadership identity built on achievement alone. What followed wasn’t just burnout. It was a breaking point that forced Rob to completely redefine how he led himself, and others. In this conversation, Rob and Jule discuss: * Why high achievers are often hardest on themselves * How toxic cultures quietly erode even top performers * The neuroscience behind fight, flight, freeze, and fawn in leadership * The “I’m Human” reset and how it restores clarity under pressure * Why self-awareness is the foundation of trust, engagement, and performance If you’re a leader carrying pressure that no one else sees, this episode will challenge how you define success and sustainability. Because sustainable high performance doesn’t start with grinding harder. It starts with leading yourself differently. Connect with Rob: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kalwarowsky/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kalwarowsky/] Website: www.robkalwarowsky.com [http://www.robkalwarowsky.com/] Book: www.robkalwarowsky.com/book [http://www.robkalwarowsky.com/book] Connect with Jule: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/] Website: www.julesalem.com [http://www.julesalem.com] Dialing In is a leadership podcast for operators, executives, and founders building under pressure. Each episode explores how connection—when it’s intentional—becomes a true performance advantage. Join us and subscribe to the show to be the first to hear new episodes.

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Episode Power, Performance, and Integrity: How to Lead When the Person at the Top Is the Problem w/ Kim Williams Cover

Power, Performance, and Integrity: How to Lead When the Person at the Top Is the Problem w/ Kim Williams

Have you ever been in a room where you knew something was wrong…but the person responsible held all the power? In this episode, Jule sits down with Kimberly Williams, HR executive and founder of Fair Path Project. When Kim stepped into a senior HR role, she quickly realized the culture she had joined was being shaped by fear. Public humiliation. Unlawful directives. Discriminatory practices. And a leader whose behavior had been quietly tolerated for years. What followed wasn’t a dramatic takedown. It was something far more strategic—documentation, board conversations, formal complaints, and the steady decision to lead with integrity even when her career felt at risk. In this conversation, Kim and Jule discuss: * How to recognize when a “high performer” has become a high organizational risk * Why documentation is a leadership tool—not just an HR tactic * The psychology behind why only 5% of people speak up * How retaliation shifts the legal and power dynamics * What courage actually looks like inside a power imbalance If you’re a leader responsible for results and culture, this episode will challenge how you think about integrity, authority, and long-term performance. Connect with Kim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-e-williams/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-e-williams/] Website: https://www.fairpathproject.com/ [https://www.fairpathproject.com/] Connect with Jule: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julesalem/] Website: www.julesalem.com [http://www.julesalem.com] Dialing In is a leadership podcast for operators, executives, and founders building under pressure. Each episode explores how connection—when it’s intentional—becomes a true performance advantage. Join us and subscribe to the show to be the first to hear new episodes.

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