HGGS - Us and Them
Prof. Dr. Richard Caplan (University of Oxford) in conversation with Sinan Barış Yaşar (HGGS) - How has the understanding of state sovereignty and the role of UN peacekeeping operations evolved over time? - What is the "Dilemma of Humanitarian Intervention" and how did it pave the way for the development of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine? - What are the most pressing challenges currently facing UN peacekeeping, and how can they be overcome? In this episode, we explore the complex and evolving landscape of international conflict management and UN peacekeeping, together with Prof. Dr. Richard Caplan, Professor of International Relations at the University of Oxford, who also delivered the keynote lecture at the HGGS Summer Forum 2025, "Us and Them." Prof. Caplan discusses the historical evolution of humanitarian intervention and raises critical questions about whether the international community’s framework for protecting vulnerable populations has truly lived up to its potential. Prof. Caplan traces the historical origins of humanitarian intervention, explaining how the UN Charter originally prohibited interference in the domestic affairs of sovereign states. He outlines how the 1992 crisis in Somalia marked a historic turning point, establishing a precedent in which the UN Security Council authorized the use of military force primarily for humanitarian purposes. Moving through subsequent catastrophic events, the discussion highlights the profound "dilemma of humanitarian intervention" articulated by former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Prof. Caplan explains how this dilemma ultimately culminated in the global adoption of the Responsibility to Protect norm. The conversation also examines the structural challenges currently facing the United Nations, particularly the geopolitical interests of the Permanent Five members and the use of the veto power, which frequently prevents the organization fromresponding effectively to major crises. The discussion further explores the future of international peacekeeping in an increasingly fragile global environment characterized by rising nationalism, a retreat from multilateralism, and declining cooperation among the major powers. Prof. Caplan reflects on whether greater reliance on regional organizations could offer a way forward. He weighs the advantages of these organizations, including their long-term regional commitment, against significant challenges, such as limited resources and the risk of advancing localized political interests. Join us in this episode as we examine public policy, international law, and the ultimate future of global peacekeeping in an increasingly divided world! Timeline (00:00) Intro (00:24) Introducing Prof. Dr. Richard Caplan and His Academic Background (03:22) Working at the Interface of Public Policy and Scholarship (06:03) Historic Turning Point for UN Peacekeeping (11:55) Historical Shift in the Understanding of State Sovereignty (13:40) Kofi Annan’s "Dilemma of Humanitarian Intervention" (18:18) Geopolitics, Unseen Atrocities, and the Structural Limitations of the UN Veto (24:55) Geopolitical Shifts: Rising Nationalism, and the Value of Peacekeeping (29:45) Reimagining Peacekeeping: Can We Rely on Regional and Sub-Regional Organizations? (34:44) Personal Reflections: Oxford and Heidelberg (35:48) Outro Keywords Responsibility to Protect, R2P, United Nations, UN Peacekeeping, International Relations, Conflict Management, Humanitarian Intervention, State Sovereignty, Somalia Intervention, Kofi Annan, Intervention Dilemma, UN Security Council, Veto Power, Mass Atrocities, Regional Organizations, Multilateralism, Geopolitics, University of Oxford, Academic Podcast. Note: This episode is a republished and revised version of one of our previous episodes, with adjustments made to enhance the sound quality and improve the overall flow of the conversation. Thank you very much for your understanding and continued support.
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