#157 - Abbie Rosner - Psychedelics and the Counterculture of Aging

#157 - Abbie Rosner - Psychedelics and the Counterculture of Aging

"Long before their appearance in the modern West, psychedelic medicines were understood and revered as portals into sacred space." WELCOME today you will hear about SUCH a progressive and wise theme, when we talk about sacred medicine in older age. In fact it is a revolution— in the role of elders in our society. My guest and author today also write: "What a delight to meet my inquisitive, slightly edgy younger self again! And yet, altering my consciousness in older age, I found the weight of life experience grounded me like an anchor. I knew myself, my mind, my strengths. Years of meditation had taught me how to deal with that old trickster, fear. Now, pot invited me to put on music and dance, dive deep into conversation, and simply ponder life with a joy I'd never known. If that was what happened with cannabis, I couldn't wait to revisit psilocybin." Her name is Abbie Rosner, she is leading a movement of conscious aging, and in the book she shares not only her own experience but more than 30 older psychonauts share how their psychedelic experiences helped them heal old wounds, align with their authentic selves, and experience profound love and forgiveness. Her book is called "Psychedelics and the Counterculture of Aging" and is published in july of 2026 by Inner Traditions. In this interview we adress topics such as: -Why the focus of baby boomers -Aging before and aging now! -Bringing in psychedelics for the benefits for older adults -How it can help prepare transition: "Experiencing this paradox of simultaneously being everything and nothing may be about as close as we mortals can get to the divine. It can also extend a level of comfort to the idea of our own mortality. Some find that moving beyond the boundaries of self is useful for making peace with death." -The shift of consciousness -The experience of being PRESENT -Safety around drugs -and a word that I now love and will use all the time: MULTI-GENERATIONAL COMMUNITIES In the end we touch on the the Leo-Aquarius archetype in Abbies chart that for example show that she will live from a truth that has not yet become conventional which matches the fact that she gives voices to pioneering psychedelic elders. Thank you for being with us, here are some links to look at: LINKS the book: https://www.innertraditions.com/psychedelics-and-the-counterculture-of-aging [https://www.innertraditions.com/psychedelics-and-the-counterculture-of-aging] Abbie: https://www.abbierosner.com/ [https://www.abbierosner.com/] myself: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ [https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/] youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu7spZDxAAo [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu7spZDxAAo]

#156 - Dr. Cynthia Li - THE MEDICINE OF FLOW - Just One Conscious Awareness Away - QiGong for Health

Dr. Cynthia Li is a Physician, Author, and Integrative Healer and - will I add - an excellent speaker as you will hear in this interview on her brand new book: "The Medicine of Flow: Harmonizing Your Inner State for Effortless Healing". She shares how she was merging with the emptiness, when the book wrote itself into a series of letters to her younger self. Cynthia has a wonderful speaking flow and I hope you will feel a piece of healing, just from listening to this. Here is some of what we touch on in this interview: -Opening to the flow of LIFE -Rapid healing - The understanding of flow and that illness is part of a continuum with healing -Illness is not a gift, but part of life and can show us things -Our energy patterns are connected to our consciousness state -Our RELATIONSHIP to the symptoms -Energy fields and heart-brain coherence -Our Electromagnetic fields -What EMBODIED FLOW is -Playing as one orchestra -The radiance of an energy field -Being synced up and attuned for example when you have clients -What to do before and after clients in terms of energetics -QiGong becoming less and less physical -What happens in healing circles both with need of coherence and prevention of taking on others energy -Flow states -The collective field and communications in sacred places And even more then this. I am so happy you are with us. Go be calm and active at the same time and let ancient wisdome guide and enliven you (If I could put a smiley here I would, but read my many inner smiles) -Mannah LINKS https://www.cynthialimd.com/ [https://www.cynthialimd.com/] https://www.newharbinger.com/9781648487255/the-medicine-of-flow/#nh-book-accessories [https://www.newharbinger.com/9781648487255/the-medicine-of-flow/#nh-book-accessories] https://a.co/d/03PHGl6V [https://a.co/d/03PHGl6V] Mannah https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ [https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/] Youtube of this episode: https://youtu.be/etGn8y8XW_U [https://youtu.be/etGn8y8XW_U]

#155 - Angel Millar - Supernatural Woman and the Male Initiate: Bonded Through Dreams

Quote: "Initiations into esoteric societies prepare—or are intended to prepare—the initiate to think about what is beyond life and even what might lie beyond death, and to consider his actions not in relation to his ambition but in relation to the Divine Will. Indeed, the symbolism of death and self-sacrifice is common to initiation rites." (...) "Often, the initiation rite gives the initiate a new body by making it symbolic or talismanic. Most notably, there is frequently special symbolism that relates to the sexual organs. These are no longer the animal organs but acquire some sacred status." Welcome to a very special conversation with Angel Millar, whose quote appears above. His newest book has just been published!! I will just copy his bio from the publisher, Inner Traditions, as my own rephrasing is going to make it worse I'm sure: Author Bio: Angel Millar is a highly esteemed author and lecturer on spirituality, symbolism, sorcery, and self-transformation. He began studying magic and trance in his early manhood and was initiated into the Illuminates of Thanateros in London at the age of 19. Now residing in New York City, he is a certified consulting hypnotist and the author of "The Three Stages of Initiatic Spirituality", "The Path of the Warrior-Mystic", and "Transcend the Chaos". IN THIS CONVERSATION, we touch on topics such as fundamentalism in esoteric communities, dreams and visions that are more than representations of aspects of the personality, true HUMILITY, how sex and self-transformation can come together, encounters with a supernatural woman, how to FEEL if someone is not for you, even if they say all the right words, and in the end, we find out what Angel really thinks of therapy and how his Capricornian nature points us to what is REAL. Angel has a great cardinal (initiatory) nature, so in the astrology corner at the end, we talk about the fusion of what we can call a whole cardinal cross, in fact. I HOPE you too also feel this interview is evocative and worthy of your further exploration and contemplation. LINKS THE BOOK we speak about: https://www.innertraditions.com/supernatural-woman-and-the-male-initiate [https://www.innertraditions.com/supernatural-woman-and-the-male-initiate] Angel Millar simply go to: https://angelmillar.com/ [https://angelmillar.com/] Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ [https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/] the youtube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/j6HU9wiBJcg [https://youtu.be/j6HU9wiBJcg]

#154 - David Stokes: Masquerade At The Crossroads of Good And Evil - Holism and Spirit Work in Mental Health and Addiction

"If patients stay in the system long enough, they learn to control all words and gestures linked to fantastical thinking, delusions, grandiosity, and hallucination. Through hard experience they learn the fruit of their best thinking is not approved of by the professionals involved in their care. They learn Orwellian doublethink, a capacity to believe in two opposing points at the same time. They discover the skill of believing the reality their mind often presents them with, while at the same time fitting in with the actual reality reinforced by mental health workers."(....) "The scale of suffering of our mentally disordered is rarely investigated as a factor of the disconnections between who we are now and those who went before us." David Stokes has written a truly exceptional book, where I feel he says all the things we are not supposed to say - when working in publically funded social work at least. "Masquerade At The Crossroads of Good And Evil - Holism and Spirit Work in Mental Health and Addiction" is published this year, 2026, at Aeon Books. A much needed book!! This is a shorter interview, as the audio was really poor, but I have edited it so it is a lot better for you to listen to now. I'm hoping to meet David again for a follow up. But enjoy this shorter interview on what the Crossroads is, what the Masquerade is, and how to incorporate a holistic approach into social work, not by suggesting anything spiritual to clients, but by meeting their own aspirations. Find the incredible special and thoughtprovoking and caring book here: https://spirit.aeonbooks.com/author/david-stokes/23787 [https://spirit.aeonbooks.com/author/david-stokes/23787] Mannah here: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ [https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/] youtube version of this interview https://youtu.be/oYd5MxocABE [https://youtu.be/oYd5MxocABE]

#153 - Jungian Analyst Erica Lorentz: Body as Shadow - Jungs Method of Embodied Healing

"In modern culture, our sensitivity to our embodied soul has largely retreated into the shadow. An individual may be an excellent athlete or a consummate dancer, for example, but that does not guarantee a healthy relationship with our sensual authority, emotions, or imagination. Indeed, to excel in these areas and achieve our goals of efficiency and precision, we need to focus acutely on breathing, muscles, bones, and rhythm. This creates false gods of perfectionism and achievement." (from page 44 of Body as Shadow, 2026) I am so glad to welcome teacher, lecturer, workshop facilitator, supervisor and Jungian Analyst Erica Lorentz to this chapter of TAP. Erica is the author of Body as Shadow - Jungs Method of Embodied Healing, that she just published after many years of conceiving it. Themes that come up include healing of trauma, where do you go during dissociation, trust the somatic unconscious, what does it mean if there is only darkness when you go into your imagination, and what the subtle body is, even though it cannot fully be expressed in words. Erica spontanously shares from this place in the book that magically enough already was more own favorite, both this quote but also other passages around this lunar consciousness: "As we use the radar of our own experience to feel what a client is emitting—sensing something in the field between us that has not yet flickered into focus—we must soften into it. This is a lunar consciousness (in alchemy, a "making of the silver"). Schwartz-Salant (1982) describes what it means to perceive this kind of awakening and sight: 'This shift of consciousness can be described as a movement from a "solar consciousness" that readily leads to interpretations, into a "lunar consciousness" that focuses upon images and imaginal perceptions. This shift involves an introverted act in which psychic energy—attention and consciousness—is surrendered to the unconscious and to a symbolic sense of oneness, the One Continuum.' (p. 140) Jung discovered this introverted act in psychic energy, which he called "indirect thinking" (1971), when he followed his soul into the underworld." Erica has practiced Authentic Movement for many years, and had the experience of healing a serious headache through - she shares how that happened, and we speak a whole lot on Jungian psychology, symbolic journeys, and how the whole embodied soul got pushed into the shadow, and for us to heal, we need to reconnect to it and go into the imaginal creative space. So all in all - I hope you will tap in with us - beforehand Erica had asked me to look astrologically at how the book will be received and so I interpret the Saturn aspects to her natal chart, which are many, to be a place of solid authority and a lasting impact and things becoming real now- Erica mentions the new beginning, and I totally agree that right now and the coming year is big initiation into being her own person, having her own sense of authority rather than having to rely on social expectations - I don't know obviously how anyone will receive her work, but from my own perspective this book was a joy to read, beautifully written and points to what we long for collectively...at least I do. FIND MORE HERE: https://ericalorentz.com/ [https://ericalorentz.com/] the book: https://www.karnacbooks.com/product/body-as-shadow-jung/98276/?MATCH=1 [https://www.karnacbooks.com/product/body-as-shadow-jung/98276/?MATCH=1] Mannah https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/ [https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/] youtube version: https://youtu.be/4mkzAyTzDAU [https://youtu.be/4mkzAyTzDAU]