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Podcast af Kamini Govender

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AI Ethics Navigator examines how emerging technologies are reshaping society, power, and everyday life. Hosted by Kamini Govender, each episode features researchers, advisors, and practitioners — including voices from UNESCO, the UN AI Advisory Body, and the Alan Turing Institute — exploring what ethics looks like in practice when technology meets society. Thoughtful, unhurried conversations linking ideas across disciplines and geographies, with Global South perspectives often missing from mainstream discourse. Connect with Kamini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender

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Navigating KING V (Episode 3): From Principles to Practice

From Principles to Practice | Kamini Govender | AI Ethics Navigator This is the final episode in the Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa series on AI Ethics Navigator. Episodes 1 and 2 explored the ethical foundations and board-level accountability introduced by King V, drawing on Ubuntu, impact materiality, and the non-delegable responsibility of boards when AI systems shape organisational decisions. This concluding episode addresses the remaining question boards are now facing: How is ethical AI governance actually implemented in practice? In this solo episode, Kamini Govender moves decisively from principle to execution, setting out how boards can translate King V’s ethical and governance expectations into workable governance mechanisms, clear accountability, and demonstrable assurance when AI systems are already embedded across organisations. Rather than focusing on theory or emerging regulation, this conversation centres on what boards must put in place now. In this episode, we explore: • Why King V shifts ethics from aspiration to demonstrable governance, and why values without mechanisms fail in practice. • How board accountability for AI differs from operational execution, and why “AI as an IT issue” is a governance failure. • The core governance structures boards need to oversee AI-driven decision-making, including ownership, visibility, decision rights, risk integration, and assurance. • How Ubuntu functions not only as an ethical philosophy, but as a practical governance lens shaping impact materiality, escalation thresholds, and board judgment. • What global AI governance practice is converging on, and why South Africa must adapt — not import — international frameworks. • The most common failures boards make when governing AI, and why ethics must be treated as auditable and evidence-based. This episode positions King V not as a compliance exercise, but as a test of whether boards can govern power, technology, and human impact with clarity and courage. Episode length: 28 minutes Series: Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa (Episode 3 of 3) Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender

9. feb. 2026 - 28 min
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Navigating King V (Episode 2): Board Responsibility and Ethical Oversight

Episode 2 of the Navigating King V series This episode continues a three-part series on AI governance in South Africa. Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa examines what South Africa’s updated corporate governance code means for ethics, accountability, and board oversight as AI systems increasingly shape organisational decision-making. The series explores King V not as a compliance exercise, but as a framework for ethical leadership under conditions of technological uncertainty. Guest: Carolynn Chalmers | CEO, Good Governance Academy Carolynn Chalmers is one of South Africa’s leading voices on corporate governance, ethical leadership, and board accountability. With a background spanning computer science, systems thinking, and governance practice, she works at the intersection of board oversight, global standard-setting, and real-world decision-making. Her work includes leadership roles in ISO governance standards and decades of experience advising boards on how governance frameworks translate into practical accountability, particularly as technology and AI reshape risk, responsibility, and power. In this episode, we explore: • What board responsibility and ethical oversight mean under King V as AI systems increasingly shape organisational decisions • Why AI is not an IT problem, but a governance and accountability challenge for boards • The limits of traditional risk and assurance frameworks when governing opaque, data-driven systems • How AI expands materiality beyond financial impact to include human dignity, fairness, and societal trust • The risks of adopting global AI governance frameworks without grounding them in South Africa’s governance realities • How boards can govern AI alongside cyber, sustainability, and enterprise risk without defaulting to checkbox compliance “You can delegate tasks, but you can never delegate accountability. That responsibility always sits with the board.” Carolynn Chalmers Episode length: 1 hour 14 minutes Series: Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa (Episode 2 of 3) Connect with Kamini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender-942225159/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender-942225159/]

18. jan. 2026 - 1 h 15 min
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Navigating King V (Episode 1): Ubuntu – A King V AI Governance Imperative

Episode 1 of the Navigating King V series This episode marks the start of a new three-part series on AI governance in South Africa. Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa examines what South Africa’s updated corporate governance code means for ethics, accountability, and board oversight as AI systems increasingly shape organisational decision-making. The series explores King V not as a compliance exercise, but as a framework for ethical leadership in conditions of technological uncertainty. Guest: Dr Ntokozo Mahlangu | Head of Operational Risk, Corporate & Investment Banking, Investec  Dr. Ntokozo Mahlangu is Head of Operational Risk for Corporate & Investment Banking at Investec, where he works at the intersection of risk management, governance, and emerging technology. He holds a PhD and has extensive experience spanning operational risk, wealth and investment operations, and banking across South Africa and the UK.  Beyond his technical expertise, Ntokozo’s work engages with how African philosophy and values can inform AI governance. His recent work explores financial inclusion through an AI lens, examining how technology can bridge South Africa's economic divides with empathy and contextual intelligence rather than simply automating exclusion at scale. He also serves on the strategic advisory board of The DaVinci Institute.   In this episode, we explore: • King V as moral inflection point: Why South Africa's updated corporate governance code represents an opportunity to reclaim moral leadership amid governance fatigue and trust deficit.  • Ubuntu philosophy explained: What "I am because we are" means for corporate governance, and why this uniquely South African philosophy of interconnectedness, dignity, and human responsibility now appears in formal governance frameworks.  • Beyond Western AI ethics: How Ubuntu offers a relational, community-centred alternative to individualistic frameworks of autonomy, fairness, and accountability—and what it surfaces that Western approaches miss.  • Impact materiality in practice: How King V shifts board accountability from profit-only to societal impact, requiring boards to measure success by how decisions affect communities, not just shareholders.  • Financial inclusion reimagined: Concrete examples of Ubuntu-centred AI design in financial services—including how AI can "see" informal economies, honour dignity in township resilience, and build credit models that recognize stokvels and spaza shops.  • Relational risk management: How Ubuntu philosophy surfaces new categories of AI risk—risks to human dignity, social cohesion, and community trust—that conventional operational risk frameworks miss.  • From compliance to moral courage: Why boards must move beyond checkbox governance to values-driven leadership, and what stakeholder service (not management) actually means in practice.  • Global South contribution: How South Africa can shape global AI governance by embedding community-centred values, and why indigenous knowledge systems must be producers, not just consumers, of AI frameworks.  • Implementation reality: Practical guidance for boards operationalizing Ubuntu principles under King V—from diagnostic questions to measuring impact beyond performative metrics.  • Education and future leaders: How universities and business schools must prepare students to carry Ubuntu principles into boardrooms through experiential learning and community engagement.  "Ubuntu is not just about South African values. It's actually a universal human value that emphasizes community, dignity, and shared humanity over hyper-individualistic, market-driven ethos." Dr. Ntokozo Mahlangu Episode length: 1 hour 32 minutes Series: Navigating King V: AI Governance in South Africa (Episode 1 of 3) Connect with Kamini:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender-942225159/

13. jan. 2026 - 1 h 32 min
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Episode 8: Guest: Jasmina Byrne | Chief of Foresight and Policy, UNICEF Innocenti – Global Office of Research and Foresight

Originally published: 19 November 2025   Guest: Jasmina Byrne | Chief of Foresight and Policy, UNICEF Innocenti – Global Office of Research and Foresight With over 25 years of experience in research, policy advocacy, programme management, and humanitarian action, she currently leads UNICEF's work on global foresight and anticipatory policy, covering topics such as frontier technologies, governance, macroeconomics, markets, society, and the environment. She is a lead author of UNICEF's annual foresight publication, Global Outlook for Children, and co-authored UNICEF's Manifesto on Children's Data Governance. Previously, she managed UNICEF's Office of Research portfolio on children and digital technologies, child rights, and child protection.   Topic: It Takes a Village: Governing AI for Children in the Digital Age   In this episode, we explore:   •Foresight as discipline: How UNICEF uses horizon scanning and scenario development to anticipate global trends and prepare for potential futures that impact children's lives.   •AI's promise and reality in developing countries: The gap between the democratization narrative and the actual challenges of internet access, infrastructure, cost, and biased data systems.   •Data governance in education: How EdTech companies collect and misuse children's data, with only 40% of personalized learning platforms in developing countries having data protection policies in place.   •Power dynamics in AI: The imbalance between tech companies in high-income countries and communities in the Global South, and the risk of techno-colonialism eroding local languages and cultural identity.   •Africa's demographic future: Why Africa's young population makes investment in local AI development, indigenous language models, and developer pipelines critical now.   •The ecosystem approach: How protecting children requires coordinated action from parents, teachers, tech companies, policy makers, and governments—because it takes a village to raise a child in the digital age.   •Parenting in the digital age: Practical guidance on balancing protection with autonomy, ensuring children develop digital literacy and resilience to navigate online risks.   •Building trust in technology: The importance of governance frameworks, data literacy, and age-appropriate design before scaling AI systems that children will use.   "It takes a village to raise a child. So when it comes to children and technology, children and AI, children and their data, we need to think about the role that various different people in their lives have to play from parents to teachers to company leaders to government policy makers—they all are actually responsible for children's lives." Jasmina Byrne   Episode length: 59 minutes    Connect: https://za.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender-942225159 [https://za.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender-942225159]

19. nov. 2025 - 1 h 0 min
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Episode 7: Guest: Patrick “Paddy” Connolly | Global Responsible AI and Generative AI Research Manager | Fellow, World Economic Forum

Originally published: 11 November 2025 Guest: Patrick “Paddy” Connolly | Global Responsible AI and Generative AI Research Manager | Fellow, World Economic Forum Paddy Connolly is a Dublin-based Responsible AI and Generative AI Research Manager and a Fellow with the World Economic Forum. An electronic engineer by training, he has built his research career around implementing Responsible AI, conversational AI ethics, generative AI implementation, algorithmic fairness, and Responsible AI maturity frameworks. He has authored and co-authored multiple studies on Responsible AI, including work published in MIT Sloan Management Review. His most recent research contribution, Responsible AI in the Global Context: Maturity Model and Survey, examined over 1,000 organizations across 20 industries and 19 regions to assess Responsible AI maturity.   Topic: Building Trust in AI Systems: A Strategic Imperative   In this episode, we explore:   • RAI 1.0 vs RAI 2.0: How Responsible AI must evolve from static, pre-deployment risk management to dynamic, system-level governance that addresses real-time, post-deployment risks.   • Agentic AI and trust: Why the rise of AI agents—capable of autonomous decision-making and interaction—requires new infrastructure for persistent trust, monitoring, and accountability.   • Governance in practice: What board-level accountability for AI means in light of frameworks such as South Africa’s new King V Code on corporate governance.   • Global maturity findings: Insights from research showing that most organizations remain at early stages of Responsible AI implementation, with less than 1% demonstrating advanced maturity.   • Trust as value: How trust is moving beyond compliance toward becoming a strategic enabler for scaling AI safely and effectively.   • Human factors: The importance of multidisciplinary collaboration, behavioral science, and stakeholder involvement in mitigating bias and improving design.   • Conversational AI ethics: The psychological and ethical challenges of increasingly human-like systems, and the risks of emotional manipulation and misplaced trust.   • Ethics, justice, and connection: A reflective discussion on moral understanding, digital empathy, and how humanity can preserve genuine connection in an AI-mediated world.   “You can’t rely on pre-deployment mitigation anymore. We need to build the infrastructure that allows you to know what an agent is doing, why it’s doing it, and how to fix it when it goes wrong.”  "Thank you for inviting me to speak on your podcast. I had so much fun chatting with you, and it was great to speak with someone who cares so much about Responsible AI." Paddy Connolly   Episode length: 1 hour 7 minutes   Connect with Kamini: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamini-govender] Subscribe: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AIethicsnavigator⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@AIethicsnavigator]

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