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The night of April 19, 1997, was like any other Saturday at Tony’s Pizza in Hardyston, New Jersey. The dinner rush had come and gone, and as the clock neared 10:45 p.m., Jeremy Giordano,  22, and Giorgio Gallara,  25, prepared to call it a night. But first, there was one last order to deliver—two pizzas bound for 196 Scott Road. A routine run. A simple transaction. They had no idea they were driving straight into an ambush. As Giordano pulled up to the curb, a car sat waiting in the darkness. Gallara, the restaurant's owner, rolled down the passenger-side window and called out, “Sixteen-fifty,” expecting a quick cash exchange. But instead of a wallet, one of the waiting men reached into his jacket pocket and pulled out a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol. The first shot shattered the quiet night. Then another. And another. The gunman emptied the chamber. His accomplice, unwilling to be a spectator, drew his weapon and joined in. Shots ripped through metal and glass, through the inside of the vehicle. The car lurched forward, rolling off the road before finally coming to a stop, its frame riddled with bullet holes. But the horror wasn’t over. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Thrill Killers: The Murders of Jeremy Giordano and Giorgio Gallara.” Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS Music and EP by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.njherald.com/story/news/crime/2017/04/19/1997-thrill-killings-2-pizza/4127116007/ [https://www.njherald.com/story/news/crime/2017/04/19/1997-thrill-killings-2-pizza/4127116007/] https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNP7BkJLZnNZ0g9w0PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1740018917/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.njherald.com%2fstory%2fnews%2f2015%2f04%2f19%2fslain-son-s-memory-still%2f4043273007%2f/RK=2/RS=z03AcPdo0uYot7mkSYhG4z7H0eM- [https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNP7BkJLZnNZ0g9w0PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1740018917/RO=10/RU=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njherald.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2015%2F04%2F19%2Fslain-son-s-memory-still%2F4043273007%2F/RK=2/RS=z03AcPdo0uYot7mkSYhG4z7H0eM-] https://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/22/nyregion/2-held-in-thrill-killings-of-pizza-men.html [https://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/22/nyregion/2-held-in-thrill-killings-of-pizza-men.html] https://www.njherald.com/story/news/crime/2019/08/09/convicted-killer-pizza-deliverymen-can/4321608007/ [https://www.njherald.com/story/news/crime/2019/08/09/convicted-killer-pizza-deliverymen-can/4321608007/] https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/supreme-court/2001/a-22-99-opn.html [https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/supreme-court/2001/a-22-99-opn.html] https://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/25/nyregion/mother-apologizes-to-families-of-deliverymen-slain-by-her-son.html [https://www.nytimes.com/1999/12/25/nyregion/mother-apologizes-to-families-of-deliverymen-slain-by-her-son.html] https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-feb-26-mn-2826-story.html [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-feb-26-mn-2826-story.html] https://www.nj.com/news/2010/07/former_sussex_county_man_convi_1.html [https://www.nj.com/news/2010/07/former_sussex_county_man_convi_1.html] https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2010/a1697-07-opn.html [https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-unpublished/2010/a1697-07-opn.html] https://horrorobsessive.com/2022/05/13/the-pizza-murders-the-story-of-a-random-double-murder-that-shocked-a-small-town/ [https://horrorobsessive.com/2022/05/13/the-pizza-murders-the-story-of-a-random-double-murder-that-shocked-a-small-town/] https://www.alamy.com/file-jason-vreeland-17-from-vernon-township-nj-is-seen-in-this-high-school-yearbook-photograph-vreeland-and-thomas-j-koskovich-18-from- [https://www.alamy.com/file-jason-vreeland-17-from-vernon-township-nj-is-seen-in-this-high-school-yearbook-photograph-vreeland-and-thomas-j-koskovich-18-from-franklin-were-charged-with-the-murders-of-two-pizza-delivery-men-saturday-night-in-franklin-ap-photodaniel-hulshizer-image543056317.html]franklin-were-charged-with-the-murders-of-two-pizza-delivery-men-saturday-night-in-franklin-ap-photodaniel-hulshizer-image543056317.html [https://www.alamy.com/file-jason-vreeland-17-from-vernon-township-nj-is-seen-in-this-high-school-yearbook-photograph-vreeland-and-thomas-j-koskovich-18-from-franklin-were-charged-with-the-murders-of-two-pizza-delivery-men-saturday-night-in-franklin-ap-photodaniel-hulshizer-image543056317.html] https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/chilling-case-baby-faced-pizza-31912103

15-year-old Rachel Barber. a bright and promising teenager from Melbourne, Australia, disappeared after leaving class in 1999. Rachel's boyfriend told the Barbers his cryptic conversation he had with Rachel earlier in the day about her having a job lined up for that evening and how now she could buy some shoes she had wanted.  Another friend mentioned that Rachel had planned to “meet up” with an unnamed female friend. When the Barbers reported their daughter missing to the police, they got the speech, “Most missing teenagers show up within 48 hours alive and well”. Her family, desperate for answers, launched an extensive search, unaware that the person responsible for her disappearance was someone they knew who had a deadly obsession. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Twisted Fascination: Rachel Barber" on this week's episode of Our True Crime Podcast. Thank you to our team: Written and researched by Lauretta Allen Listener Discretion by Edward October from Octoberpod AM Executive Producer Nico Vetesse of The Inky Pawprint Producer Jesse Fyffe-Vetesse of The Inky Pawprint Sources: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/958866.Perfect_Victim [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/958866.Perfect_Victim] https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/caroline-reed-robertsons-deadly-obsession-with-beautiful-dancer-rachel-barber-led-to-murder/news-story/ca370d6f83a0f9a2c37b8075cfef2913 [https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/caroline-reed-robertsons-deadly-obsession-with-beautiful-dancer-rachel-barber-led-to-murder/news-story/ca370d6f83a0f9a2c37b8075cfef2913] https://www.youtube.com/watchv=HspjEK5bb2E&ab_channel=Dr.ToddGrande [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HspjEK5bb2E&ab_channel=Dr.ToddGrande]qhttps://www.youtube.com/watchv=DPkDk1ay0A8&list=PLf6JoKlW9k2akQi9zQ7k7nQq62ccw_TGo&ab_channel=CasefilePresents [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPkDk1ay0A8&list=PLf6JoKlW9k2akQi9zQ7k7nQq62ccw_TGo&ab_channel=CasefilePresents] https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/caroline-reed-robertson-who-strangled-dancer-rachel-barber-in-1999-freed-on-parole/news-story/5ce7e1bd298fbc40145f6aacf02dbfed [https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/caroline-reed-robertson-who-strangled-dancer-rachel-barber-in-1999-freed-on-parole/news-story/5ce7e1bd298fbc40145f6aacf02dbfed] https://rachel barber official memorial.yourwebsitespace.com/bio.h [https://rachelbarberofficialmemorial.yourwebsitespace.com/bio.html] tml [https://rachelbarberofficialmemorial.yourwebsitespace.com/bio.html]https://www.penguin.com.au/authors/elizabeth-southall [https://www.penguin.com.au/authors/elizabeth-southall] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Her_Skin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Her_Skin] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3267106/ Deadly Women Season 7, Episode 11 "Heartless Souls" https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/dancers-fixated-killer-a-real-danger-parole-rejection-bid-20120718-229nt.html [https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/dancers-fixated-killer-a-real-danger-parole-rejection-bid-20120718-229nt.html] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/from-freud-to-fluoxetine/202310/pathological-jealousy-in-borderline-personality-disorder [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/from-freud-to-fluoxetine/202310/pathological-jealousy-in-borderline-personality-disorder] https://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0011/th001130.htm [https://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0011/th001130.htm] https://aussiecriminals.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/in-her-skin-court-transcript_opt.pdf [https://aussiecriminals.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/in-her-skin-court-transcript_opt.pdf]

Nestled in the small, unassuming town of Stella, Missouri, in the heart of the Ozarks, nine-year-old Rowan Ford lived a life like any kid would. She shared a modest home in Newton County with her mother, Colleen Munson, and her stepfather, David Spears. 25-year-old David Spears had a long-standing friendship with 32-year-old Christopher Collings, a man who wasn’t family by blood but had become close to the family over the years. Collings moved into the Spears household during the summer of 2007, living in the basement and being looked up to by the young Rowan, who fondly called him “Uncle Chris.” But by late October, Collings left the Spears home and relocated to a farm in Wheaton, Missouri, where he had a trailer parked on the property.  On the chilly evening of November 2, 2007, Nathan Mahurin, another friend of both Spears and Collings, joined the two men at the Wheaton farm. The trio stopped at a local liquor store to stock up on malt liquor before returning to Spear's home to drink and play pool. The following morning, November 3, her mother, Colleen, returned from her shift around 9:00 a.m. to find Rowan missing. At first, she assumed her daughter was somewhere in the house, but after a frantic search, she realized Rowan was gone.  Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast on this episode, ' Snatched As She Slept: Rowan Ford.’ Listener discretion is by @octoberpodVHS Music is by our EP @theinkypawprint Sources: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/mo-supreme-court/1676021.html [https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/mo-supreme-court/1676021.html] https://casetext.com/case/collings-v-state-2 [https://casetext.com/case/collings-v-state-2] https://www.ozarksfirst.com/crimetraveler/crime-traveler-what-happened-to-rowan-ford/ [https://www.ozarksfirst.com/crimetraveler/crime-traveler-what-happened-to-rowan-ford/] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/03/christopher-collings-execution-missouri-rowan-ford/76744499007/ [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/03/christopher-collings-execution-missouri-rowan-ford/76744499007/] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-collings-missouri-execution-rowan-ford-murder/ [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-collings-missouri-execution-rowan-ford-murder/] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/missouri-execution-christopher-collings-rape-murder-b2658052.html [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/missouri-execution-christopher-collings-rape-murder-b2658052.html] https://krcgtv.com/news/local/parson-state-of-missouri-will-execute-man-convicted-of-rape-murder-of-nine-year-old-girl [https://krcgtv.com/news/local/parson-state-of-missouri-will-execute-man-convicted-of-rape-murder-of-nine-year-old-girl] https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-death-row-inmate-christopher-838753 [https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-death-row-inmate-christopher-838753] https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21708153 [https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21708153] https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/videotape-confession-presented-in-rowan-ford-case/article_16eca7b2-73ee-519c-8000-2d3ed82751c9.html [https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/videotape-confession-presented-in-rowan-ford-case/article_16eca7b2-73ee-519c-8000-2d3ed82751c9.html] https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/chris-collings-father-no-matter-what-happens-i-love-my-son/article_e10bdd91-c2d5-5fa5-ad47-fb1b9d65fd00.html [https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/chris-collings-father-no-matter-what-happens-i-love-my-son/article_e10bdd91-c2d5-5fa5-ad47-fb1b9d65fd00.html] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-collings-missouri-execution-rowan-ford-murder/ [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-collings-missouri-execution-rowan-ford-murder/] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/02/missouri-execution-christopher-collings [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/02/missouri-execution-christopher-collings] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/02/christopher-collings-execution-rowan-ford-missouri/76578296007/ [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/02/christopher-collings-execution-rowan-ford-missouri/76578296007/] https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-6703.html [https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-6703.html] https://mdcp.nwaonline.com/news/2012/oct/04/murder-charge-dropped-20121004/ https://fox4kc.com/news/national/ap-us-news/ap-missouri-man-facing-execution-in-the-sexual-assault-and-strangling-of-a-9-year-old-girl/ https://www.fourstateshomepage.com/news/crime/murder-victims-step-father-where-is-he-now/ [https://www.fourstateshomepage.com/news/crime/murder-victims-step-father-where-is-he-now/] https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2024/12/02/missouri-executing-christopher-collings-rape-murder-rowan-ford/76711350007/ [https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2024/12/02/missouri-executing-christopher-collings-rape-murder-rowan-ford/76711350007/] https://www.ky3.com/2025/01/14/missouri-lawmakers-demand-firing-rowan-fords-step-father-public-defenders-office/

In the early hours of December 11, 2017, the small, tight-knit community of Walkden, Salford, was thrust into the heart of a nightmare that would forever scar its residents. It was just after 5 a.m. when Michelle Pearson, a single mother of five, dialed emergency services. Desperate and trembling, her voice cut through the static as fire and rescue teams scrambled to the scene, racing against time. Flames already consumed the house. Neighbors watched helplessly as the fire raged. Inside, Michelle’s family was trapped. Michelle was a mother to five children: 17-year-old Kyle, 15-year-old Demi,8-year-old Brandon, 7-year-old Lacie, and the youngest, 3-year-old Lia. Michelle was their protector and rock. But on this fateful morning, she was about to find herself in a battle for their lives, a battle she would lose. Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast on this episode entitled ‘Revenge and Ruin: The Pearson Family Arson.’ Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS Music and Editing courtesy of @theinkypawprint Promo by our own @rett1214 and her new podcast Mystery, History and Crime.  Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-56829229 [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-56829229] https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2021/april/trio-jailed-for-mothers-death-following-2017-petrol-bomb-attack/ [https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2021/april/trio-jailed-for-mothers-death-following-2017-petrol-bomb-attack/] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/26/michelle-pearson-mother-of-four-children-killed-in-2017-house-fire-dies-salford [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/26/michelle-pearson-mother-of-four-children-killed-in-2017-house-fire-dies-salford] https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/michelle-pearson-walkden-bolland-worrall-20435550 [https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/michelle-pearson-walkden-bolland-worrall-20435550] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9495581/Judge-jails-cowardly-monsters-life-murdered-mother-four-young-children.html [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9495581/Judge-jails-cowardly-monsters-life-murdered-mother-four-young-children.html] https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-03-30/walkden-fire-zak-bolland-and-david-worrall-found-guilty-of-murdering-michelle-pearson-in-fire-that-killed-four-children [https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-03-30/walkden-fire-zak-bolland-and-david-worrall-found-guilty-of-murdering-michelle-pearson-in-fire-that-killed-four-children] https://news.sky.com/story/mum-michelle-pearson-told-all-her-four-children-died-in-december-fire-11346054 [https://news.sky.com/story/mum-michelle-pearson-told-all-her-four-children-died-in-december-fire-11346054] https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heartbroken-mum-spent-final-months-23954952 https://www.amazon.com/Killers-Caught-On-Camera/dp/B0DBDHM2HZ https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24768140.inquest-deaths-michelle-pearson-four-children-go-ahead/ [https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/24768140.inquest-deaths-michelle-pearson-four-children-go-ahead/] https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19166189.happened-son-gives-evidence-murder-trial-death-tragic-mum-michelle-pearson-died-house-fire/ [https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19166189.happened-son-gives-evidence-murder-trial-death-tragic-mum-michelle-pearson-died-house-fire/] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9495581/Judge-jails-cowardly-monsters-life-murdered-mother-four-young-children.html

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. -Margaret Atwood Shana Grice was a bubbly teenager who worked as an office receptionist in Portslade in the summer of 2015. At the time, she was just 18, bright-eyed and full of promise. She was excited to be able to save money for the wedding she planned with her boyfriend of two years, Ashley. Shana's co-worker Michael Lane, a 26-year-old mechanic was instantly smitten with Shana. Lane was eight years older than Shana, and she was quite flattered by this older guy’s attention. So, when Shana’s and Ashley’s relationship hit a rough patch, and the couple decided to “take a break,”  her relationship with Michael Lane went from flirtatious to something more physical. After a three-month relationship with Michael, Shana decided she wanted to be with her high school sweetheart, Ashley, and broke off the relationship him. Michael, however, couldn’t abide by her decision and told a friend, “She’ll pay for what she’s done.” Michael became obsessed with Shana and began stalking her. Shana was afraid and went to the police for help on five occasions. It seems her complaints fell on deaf ears. Join us as we discuss, "She'll Pay: The Stalking and Murder of Shana Grice." We will be in London at CrimeCon UK! Come see us! You can use our discount code OTCP10 for 10% off the ticket price! 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