PBM on the Rocks

Mark Cuban: Shaking Up the PBM Status Quo

PBM Problems, Self-Insured Contracts, & Taking Back Control of Independent Pharmacy In this blockbuster episode of PBM on the Rocks, we’re thrilled to welcome a special guest who needs no introduction: Mark Cuban. Known for shaking up industries and challenging the status quo, Mark joins our Cocktail Crew for a candid conversation about the opaque world of PBMs. The conversation dives deep into how PBM practices are hurting employers, back office challenges facing independent pharmacies, and the potential of artificial intelligence to streamline operations and cut costs for small businesses. Music by https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3EJuliusH [https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3E] | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Side Hustles, Rx Discount Cards, & the Prescription Benefit Mafia

Join the PBM OTR Cocktail Crew as they dive deep into the harsh realities facing independent pharmacies as we close out 2025. From the necessity of "side hustles" just to keep the lights on, to the dark side of AI in prior authorizations, the landscape is shifting rapidly. They’ll also unpack the upcoming reintroduction of the Pharmacists Fight Back Act in the 119th Congress, and take a look behind the curtain at prescription discount cards and how they actually work. If you're frustrated by rising insurance premiums, opaque pharmacy contracts, or the closure of your local drugstore, this episode is for you. Special Guests: John Farina, AHF & Matt Ansay, Streu’s Pharmacy Music by JuliusH [https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3E] | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Live Episode Part 2: PBM Reform, the Case for Unionization, & Finding Humor in Pharmacy

Welcome back to part two of our special live crossover episode with PBM on the Rocks and The PUTTcast [https://www.truthrx.org/puttcast]!  In this conclusion to our live Summit day recording, we dive deeper into the critical issues facing the pharmacy industry today. The discussion picks back up on the front lines of PBM reform, exploring reform’s real-world impact on patients and independent pharmacies, then shifts to a powerful and often-debated topic: the case for unionization in pharmacy. But it's not all serious business. Maurice Shaw (The Dr of Comedy [https://www.facebook.com/RXComedy/]) and Shane Jerominsky (The Accidental Pharmacist [https://www.facebook.com/Accpharm/]) bring their unique perspectives as pharmacists and comedians to point out the comedic moments found in everyday pharmacy life - reminding us that laughter can be a powerful tool for coping with the immense pressures of the pharmacy profession. Special Guests: Maurice Shaw, PharmD, Shane Jerominsky, RPh, & Greg Reybold, APCI VP of Healthcare Policy & General Counsel Music by cat_herding_diva [https://pixabay.com/users/soulprodmusic-30064790/] & JuliusH [https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3E] | Mixing by Andre Barden | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Live Episode Part 1: PBMs, Politics, & a PUTT Summit 2025 Recap

Join co-hosts Jeremy Counts and Lauren Young as The PUTTcast [https://www.truthrx.org/puttcast] teams up with the PBM OTR Cocktail Crew for Part 1 of our special live crossover episode!  We're breaking down the biggest moments from the 2025 PUTT Virtual Summit, and diving deep into the ever-changing world of PBM reform. This powerhouse discussion features an incredible lineup of guests who share their unique perspectives on the latest legislative battles, grassroots advocacy, and what independent pharmacy owners are facing on the front lines. Special Guest: Greg Reybold, VP of Healthcare Policy & General Counsel, APCI Music by cat_herding_diva [https://pixabay.com/users/soulprodmusic-30064790/] & JuliusH [https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3E] | Mixing by Andre Barden | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Building Coalitions, Tech Bros in Pharmacy, & the Importance of Taking Action

Join Lord Dr Jeremy and the PUTT Cocktail Crew with special guest Nebraska pharmacist and pharmacy owner Dave Randolph, RPh, as they dive into the critical issues shaping the future of pharmacy and healthcare. From the power of building coalitions for effective state-level advocacy, to the importance of subject matter education for legislators, and the dangers of so-called "pharmacy industry innovation" led by tech bros with no pharmacy background, this episode is packed with no holds barred conversation and insights for anyone who cares about local community pharmacy. Music by JuliusH [https://my.captivate.fm/Music%20by%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/users/juliush-3921568/?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EJuliusH%3C/a%3E%20from%20%3Ca%20href=%22https://pixabay.com/music//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=3912%22%3EPixabay%3C/a%3E] | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard