white people, black music and liberation

are we just coddling white folks? (with aaron kierbel)

(00:00:00) are we just coddling white folks? (with aaron kierbel) (00:00:01) Welcome to White People, Black Music, and Liberation (00:00:29) Introducing Aaron Kerbel: Drummer, Educator, and Friend (00:01:17) The Tension Between White Space and Racial Justice (00:03:46) The Importance of White Spaces for Racial Reflection (00:10:56) Creating Spaces for Cross-Racial Dialogue (00:12:03) Wrapping Up and Next Episode Preview (00:12:28) Support the Podcast Community white people doing racial justice work often face a hard question from their own communities: is focusing on white folks actually helping or just letting them off the hook? in this conversation with drummer and educator aaron kierbel, we explore the healing power of honest conversation, why white people need spaces to talk about race with one another, and how that work can open the door to deeper cross-racial dialogue rather than replace it. white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation.  . have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com  . follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com ✶

making space for the sacred in antiracism practice (with matré)

in this conversation with matré we explore the role spiritual practice can play in antiracism work. meditation, inner reflection, and deep conversation can open spaces where we see our patterns more clearly and respond from courage and love rather than fear. https://whitepeopleblackmusic.com/ white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation.  . have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com  . follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com ✶

is racism a wound for white people too? (with matré)

continuing the conversation with matré, we explore the idea that racism is a collective wound in our society. what does liberation actually look like for white or white passing people doing this work? and how can inner growth, spiritual practice, and racial justice support each other on the path toward healing? white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation.  . have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com  . follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com ✶

racism, justice, why even care (with mátre)?

why should anyone care about racial justice? in this episode matré reflects on growing up near a racial divide and the emotional truth that something in our society simply does not feel right. we explore the idea that injustice harms everyone and why that realization can become a call toward healing and liberation. white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation.  . have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com  . follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com ✶

what is the right way to relate to being white and loving black music? (with matré)

in this episode, erich continues his conversation with hip hop artist and cultural worker matré, exploring a central tension many white and white passing people encounter: how to relate ethically, honestly, and responsibly to being white and playing black music. matré reflects on his lifelong relationship with hip hop, the questions that arose as he navigated identity and belonging, and how conversations with trusted people, including his brother, helped clarify the real impact of race and access. this episode is not about arriving at a single answer, but about staying in relationship with the question. it’s an invitation into vulnerability, humility, and ongoing learning, grounded in love for the music and commitment to liberation. to hear more from matré, including reflections on music, healing, and courageous conversation, check out his podcast love bravely: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134 [https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134] white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation.  . have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com  . follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com ✶