The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

Behind the Bite with David Zagoria

What does it take to advocate for victims of dog attacks, and why do these cases involve far more than bites and scars? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Maren Chaloupka sits down with Georgia trial lawyer and TLC faculty member David Zagoria to explore the unique challenges of dog injury litigation. Through powerful role reversals and real case stories, David shares how the TLC method helps uncover hidden truths, build trust with witnesses, and connect deeply with clients whose lives have been changed by trauma. He discusses the investigative work required to prove these cases, the emotional scars that often outlast physical wounds, and how psychodrama and authentic storytelling transformed his practice and his life. Whether you represent injury victims, criminal defendants, or anyone seeking justice, this conversation offers a compelling look at advocacy rooted in humanity, truth, and connection.

Authenticity with Natanya Brooks

What happens when trial lawyers stop performing and start connecting? In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Ron Estefan sits down with Natanya Brooks to discuss how the TLC method transformed not only her approach to trial work, but her life. Natanya shares how psychodrama, vulnerability, and authentic human connection helped her become more present with clients, juries, family, and herself. From processing personal loss to learning to trust her own voice in the courtroom, she reflects on the power of showing up as a genuine human being rather than performing a role. This inspiring conversation explores why connection, not perfection, is often the key to effective advocacy and meaningful relationships.

The Story Beneath with Laura Schultes

In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College podcast, Maren Chaloupka speaks with employment attorney Laura Schultes about how the TLC method transforms the way lawyers prepare and present employment discrimination and whistleblower cases. Laura shares how psychodrama, role reversal, and story work helped uncover the human experience beneath spreadsheets, evaluations, and institutional defenses in a racial discrimination case involving a public school teacher. Together, they explore why employment cases are ultimately about identity, belonging, betrayal, human dignity, and how authentic storytelling can change the outcome of a case long before trial.

The Human Connection with Jody Anderson and Jeff Chapdelaine

TLC President Maren Chaloupka sits down with psychodramatists Jody Anderson and Jeff Chapdelaine to explore the transformative role of psychodrama in trial work, healing, and human connection. Together, they discuss how psychodrama helps lawyers move beyond performance and into authentic storytelling that resonates with juries and clients alike. The conversation also previews TLC's upcoming "Homecoming: Master Class in Psychodrama" program in Nebraska City, where participants will deepen their understanding of Moreno's methods, directing techniques, and the emotional foundations of powerful advocacy.

Finding the Story with Brecken Wagner and Blake Lynch

Oklahoma trial lawyers Brecken Wagner and Blake Lynch join the TLC podcast to talk about their journey from traditional courtroom advocacy to authentic, human-centered trial work through Trial Lawyers College. With humor, honesty, and unforgettable stories, they reflect on psychodrama, jury selection, storytelling, and the powerful impact TLC has had on their practice, partnerships, and personal lives. From learning to connect with jurors to discovering empathy for even the hardest witnesses, this episode explores how vulnerability and authenticity can transform both lawyers and the cases they try.