Both Sides of the Fence

Both Sides Of The Fence episode 5 with special Guest Lenny McAllister Jr.

In this episode of Both Sides of the Fence, Derek McCance and Jennifer McIntyre sit down with Lenny McAllister Jr., a conservative Black leader, political commentator, media host, and author of the upcoming book A Venn Diagram of One, set to release in August 2026. Known for his work across newspapers, digital media, radio, and television, Lenny brings a powerful and unique perspective to today’s political and cultural conversations. As an African-American voice within the Black conservatism movement, Lenny has often challenged assumptions from both sides of the aisle. Together, Derek, Jennifer, and Lenny discuss the bold framework behind A Venn Diagram of One - America’s “second act” built on three pillars: Security, Empowerment, and Opportunity. The conversation explores how national inflection points can become moments of reflection, why echo chambers are weakening our shared future, and how Americans can build bridges without surrendering conviction. This episode is a challenge to choose hope over division, action over outrage, and purpose over trend. It is a call to restore the American Dream through courage, personal responsibility, civic engagement, and the power of the pivot, while reclaiming the “United” in the United States.   The link below is our link tree, which will take you to all of Both Sides Othe Fence's social media.social media. https://linktr.ee/BothSidesOfTheFence_Podcast

Both Sides Of The Fence episode 4 With Special guest Nayeli McIntyre

n this deeply personal and emotional episode of Both Sides of the Fence, co-hosts Jennifer McIntyre and Derek McCance sit down with Jennifer’s daughter, Nayeli McIntyre, to talk openly about one of the most difficult chapters their family has ever faced.  Together, they discuss Nayeli’s struggles during her pre-teen years with gender dysphoria, depression, and self-harm, and the fear, confusion, isolation, and emotional weight that came with trying to understand those feelings at such a young age.  Jennifer shares what it was like trying to support and protect her child while also wrestling with beliefs and perspectives that challenged her own understanding of the world. Rather than approaching the conversation through politics or ideology, this episode focuses on the raw reality of family, love, communication, and the complicated space where deeply held beliefs and unconditional love collide.  Honest, vulnerable, and at times heartbreaking, this conversation is about listening, navigating uncertainty together, and remembering the humanity on both sides of deeply emotional issues. If you would like to contact Jenn, please don't hesitate to send her an email,  jennifer@bothsidesofthefence.net   The link below is our link tree, which will take you to all of Both Sides Othe Fence's social media.social media. https://linktr.ee/BothSidesOfTheFence_Podcast

Both Sides Of The Fence episode Episode 3 with Tim Motte

In Episode 3, our guest, Tim Motte, served 25 years as a state police officer, fighting narcotics and firearm trafficking. Tim Motte has been a member of the Pennsylvania Army National Guard. He has also served our country for 3 years of active duty in 43 countries, and also served his country on 9/11 as a first responder to Flight 93. Tim Motte has a charity called  Gunny's Ridge Veteran and First Responder Mission - Alignable serves military, veterans, police, firefighters, EMS, and other first responders who dedicate their lives to protecting others—often carrying unseen wounds long after the job is done. Facing some of the highest rates of PTSD, psychological trauma, and suicide in America, many struggle to find the comprehensive support they truly need.  Gunny’s Ridge’s mission is to create a multidisciplinary healing campus that delivers emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual restoration for military veterans, first responders, and their families recovering from trauma. Through innovative programs, partnerships, and a holistic approach to recovery, the goal is to establish a scalable care model nationwide. Gunny's Ridge Veteran and First Responder Mission [https://www.alignable.com/burgettstown-pa/gunny-s-ridge-veteran-and-first-responder-mission] https://www.alignable.com/burgettstown-pa/gunny-s-ridge-veteran-and-first-responder-mission   The link below is our link tree, which will take you to all of Both Sides Othe Fence's social media.social media. https://linktr.ee/BothSidesOfTheFence_Podcast

Both Sides Of The Fence episode 2 Derek Mccance, Jennifer Mcintyre and guest/friend Tiffany Culp

Episode 2: Questions That Can’t Be Answered… or Answers That Can’t Be Questioned? In this episode of Both Sides of the Fence, co-hosts Derek McCance Castro and Jennifer McIntyre are joined by longtime friend Tiffany Culp for a candid conversation on some of the most polarizing issues shaping our world in 2026. Together, they share unfiltered perspectives, challenge assumptions, and explore what it really means to have open dialogue in today’s climate. No scripts. No easy answers. Just real conversation. This episode also sets the stage for Episode 3, the first installment featuring a very special (close to home for one of our hosts) guest, where the conversation goes even deeper.   The link below is our link tree, which will take you to all of Both Sides Othe Fence's social media.social media. https://linktr.ee/BothSidesOfTheFence_Podcast

Both Sides Of The Fence episode 1 Derek Mccance and Jennifer Mcintyre

Episode 1: Welcome to Both Sides of the Fence In our very first episode, co-hosts Derek McCance Castro and Jennifer McIntyre introduce Both Sides of the Fence, a podcast built on the idea that meaningful conversations don’t require agreement… just a willingness to listen. We share the thought process behind launching the podcast, what we hope to accomplish, and the mission driving every episode: creating space for honest, respectful dialogue in a world that often feels divided. You’ll also get a glimpse into who we are...our backgrounds, experiences, and the moments that shaped our perspectives, both past and present. This isn’t about changing minds. It’s about opening them.   The link below is our link tree, which will take you to all of Both Sides Othe Fence's social media.social media. https://linktr.ee/BothSidesOfTheFence_Podcast