Between Ourselves

Marly Pierre-Louis and I discuss ideas of rest, slowing down and guilt as Black women. The conversation was part of a public dialogue held at Hotel Maria Kapel as part of my artist residency in December 2019.

Reverend Jarel Robinson Brown and Alina Jabari join me to speak about faith and religion and whether it has a place in the arts, art education and academia. How do those of faith and those in the arts perceive each other? And how do people of more progressive faith think about politics? This was a panel discussion at the graduation show of Sekai Makoni at the Sandberg Institute in Amsterdam in 2019.

My mother (Pepukai Makoni), Yansie Rolston and her daughter Joelyn Rolston join me to talk about Black Mothering. We have a group discussion filled with LOTS of laughter, truths and vulnerability. The conversation is wide-ranging, we consider if there are particular elements to being raised by a Black mother, what are the challenges and joys and what have we learnt as daughters and mothers?

In this episode of Between Ourselves Amandla Awetu, Jessy de Abreau, Simone Zeefuik (via Skype) and Inez van der Scheer join me at the Black Archives in Amsterdam in early 2018. We discuss what it is to be a Black woman activist in the Netherlands, what are the challenges they face? What are the particularities of the Black Dutch experience, how has Black Feminism shaped their activist experiences and what are their hopes for the future?

In this episode of Between Ourselves Melanie Eddy, Amina Gichinga and Dr Gabriella Beckles-Raymond join me to discuss mixedness in relation blackness. What are our experiences with other mixed women? What is the impact of the notion of a post-racial society and how are mixed bodies used in relation to it? How did Brexit impact racism? And what are notions of pain in relation to blackness? This is part 2 of a longer discussion, take a listen to part 1 if you haven't already so you can hear the full thing!