Bold Agendas

Winning the AI Race: Why Execution Speed Matters More Than Perfect Strategy

Winning with AI requires more than adopting new technology—it requires organizations to learn, adapt, and execute at a different pace. In this episode of Bold Agendas, Mimi Brooks is joined by returning guest Charlene Li, keynote speaker, strategic advisor, bestselling author, and co-author of Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success, to explore what differentiates organizations that are succeeding in the AI era and why speed matters more than perfect strategy. Together, Mimi and Charlene discuss why strategic clarity matters, how organizations can move beyond optimization to create new value, why AI is fundamentally a leadership challenge, and why adaptability, commitment, and imagination are becoming essential capabilities for leaders seeking competitive advantage in an environment defined by accelerating change. To learn more about Charlene and her work, visit https://charleneli.com/ or connect with her on LinkedIn. You can find Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success wherever books are sold and learn more at https://winningwithaibook.com/. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction: Why Execution Speed Matters More Than Perfect Strategy 03:44 – Why This AI Era Is Different for Leaders 07:10 – A 90-Day Blueprint for Winning with AI 09:21 – AI Is a Leadership Problem, Not a Technology Problem 13:29 – Beyond Optimization: Creating New Value 22:17 – What Differentiates Successful Organizations 29:41 – AI as a Leadership Problem: The Challenges of Leading Here and Now 36:16 – The Board's Role in AI Leadership and Strategic Change 41:27 – The Human Side of AI: Strategic Workforce Planning 1:01:15 – Leadership, Imagination, and Hope: New Strategic Capabilities for the AI Era 1:04:41 – Where to Find Charlene and Her Work

From Strategy to Structure

What happens when strategy and technology move forward but the structure of the enterprise doesn’t keep up? In this episode of Bold Agendas, Mimi Brooks is joined by Whynde Kuehn, founder of S2E Transformation and a leading voice in business architecture, to explore how organizations translate strategy into real operational change. Together, Mimi and Whynde unpack how organizations still default to technology-first thinking, the role of a clear business blueprint in grounding decisions, and how business architecture helps connect strategy to execution through capabilities, value streams, and operating models. In a landscape increasingly shaped by agentic systems influencing decisions and workflows, Mimi and Whynde explore how governance, control, and decision rights are becoming a central part of enterprise architecture. Whether you're leading transformation or navigating AI-driven change, this conversation will reframe how you think about the relationship between strategy, structure, and governance. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction: When Structure Can’t Keep Up with Strategy 03:58 – Strategy Execution Gets Harder in the AI Era 07:16 – The Reality of AI and Transformation Today 09:46 – Why AI Is Still Being Driven by Technology 13:07 – The First Step: A Business Blueprint for Decision Making 18:59 – From Change Management to Organizational Readiness 25:11 – Architecture as Governance 30:42 – Designing Governance as a Control Structure 40:45 – Understanding How Decisions Actually Get Made 43:46 – Who Owns Organizational Design and Change

Control at Machine Speed

As organizations begin delegating decisions to agentic systems, control can no longer rely on oversight after the fact. In this episode, Mimi Brooks is joined by returning guest Mike Carroll—an expert in industrial innovation, applied AI, and system strategy—to explore what it means to maintain control when decisions happen at machine speed. Together, they unpack why traditional governance breaks down, how causality and decision-making logic shift how decisions are made and governed, and what leaders must rethink about architecture, accountability, and enterprise agency in an increasingly autonomous world. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction: Control at Machine Speed 03:34 – AI, Productivity, and Why Work Isn’t Decreasing 10:50 – Why Governance Breaks at Machine Speed 14:42 – Less Experience, More Data, Higher Decision Burden 23:14 – How Agentic AI Changes Decisions, Permission, and Control 33:00 – Causality and the Shift to Decision-Relevant Data 35:50 – Looking Beyond Symptoms to Understand Performance 40:01 – How Agentic AI Enables Enterprise Agency and Decision-Making 48:25 – When Decisions Still Require Human Judgment and Accountability 52:31 – Embedding Principles and Values into AI Decision Systems 55:55 – Rethinking Knowledge and Application in the Enterprise 58:38 – How AI Is Reshaping Organizational Structure and the Enterprise 01:03:46 – Enterprise Agency and Rethinking AI Strategy

Enterprise Architecture 4.0: Agentic Governance and the Leadership Mindset for the Age of Autonomy

Agentic systems are reshaping the foundation of the enterprise faster than most organizations can adapt. In this episode of Bold Agendas, Mimi Brooks is joined by Jesper Lowgren—Agentic Enterprise Architect Lead at DXC technology and creator of the Enterprise Architecture 4.0 framework—to explore how enterprise architecture, governance, and leadership must evolve for the agentic era. Together, they examine Enterprise Architecture 4.0, the new governance requirements of agentic systems, and why leaders must shift from reactive oversight to governing through real-time guardrails and conditions. Jesper shares the mindset shifts leaders need, the risks of operating between legacy and agentic systems, and what sets organizations up for success as autonomy and uncertainty redefine the enterprise. If you’d like to reach out to Jesper, you can find him on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesper-lowgren/] (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesper-lowgren/) or on his website [https://www.jesperlowgren.com/] (https://www.jesperlowgren.com/) Jesper’s Books: - Design or Be Designed: The Agentic AI Survival Guide - Agentic Governance: Governing the Space Between Timestamps: 00:00 – The Agentic Shift: Rethinking Architecture, Governance, and Leadership for Real-Time Enterprise 10:03 – Governance as Strategy: Designing Constraints for Agentic Systems 14:10 – Redefining Enterprise Architecture for the Agentic Era 18:38 – How Legacy Enterprises Begin the Shift Toward Agentic Systems 23:37 – Understanding Emergence: Why Traditional Architecture Can’t Support Agentic Systems 27:16 – Understanding Micro and Macro Governance in Agentic Systems 29:13 – Shifting Leadership Toward Governance Embedded in the System 31:07 – Embedding Governance into Transformation Strategy for the Agentic Era 36:49 – Avoiding the Gray Zone: The Danger of Operating Between Legacy and Agentic Systems 40:40 – The Challenge of Living in Transitional States During Transformation 43:20 – The Five Mindset Shifts Leaders Need for the Agentic Era 48:02 – Connecting AI Maturity Models to Leadership Mindset Readiness 55:59 – The Challenge of Technical and Cultural Debt in an Agentic World 57:48 – What Sets Leaders Up for Success in Agentic Transformation 01:02:39 – Where to Find Jesper’s Work on Agentic Governance and System Design

Reinventing Industrial Operations: Digital Twins, Agentic Intelligence, and What 2025 Clarified

An important lesson emerged in 2025: incremental transformation is no longer enough. In this episode of Bold Agendas, Mimi Brooks is joined by Pieter van Schalkwyk—CEO of XMPRO, author of Building Industrial Digital Twins, and a leader in the Digital Twin Consortium—to explore why today’s operating models are reaching a breaking point. Together, they unpack the systemic pressures reshaping operations—aging infrastructure, rising complexity, talent loss, and unsustainable work models—and why technology alone can’t fix them. From the cognitive burden on frontline workers to the fragility of legacy systems, Pieter makes the case for agentic intelligence, human-centered design, and rethinking productivity itself. It’s a conversation that spans intelligent digital twins, organizational modeling, decision intelligence, and the call to move from experimentation to action. Read Pieter’s article with co-author Michael Carroll, “Obituary for 2025: The Year We Buried the Copilot Dream and Discovered What Intelligence Actually Requires” [https://tinyurl.com/2025Obit] Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction: The Strategic Case for Reinventing Operations 03:15 – Why Operational Models Need Reinvention, Not Incremental Fixes 08:20 – People as the Point of Rationalization in Complex Systems 15:53 – Leadership’s Awareness and Urgency Gap 18:34 – System Experts and the Knowledge Gap in Industrial Transformation 21:48 – Common Mistakes Leaders Make in Transformation 29:00 – Priorities for Redesigning Your Ops Model 35:05 – The Value of Digital Twins in Future Operating Models 39:51 – A Practical Roadmap to Operational Autonomy 45:18 – The Real Transformation Challenge: People, Not Tech 47:34 – Digital Twins of the Organization: Modeling Culture, Strategy, and Decision-Making 51:33 – Relational Dynamics: A New Lens on Organizational Context 56:15 – Lessons from 2025: Letting Go, Designing for Humans, and Looking Ahead