Grown Men Playing with Toys

39 - Thanos-Snapping My 10th Edition Lists

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2528461/fan_mail/new] In this episode of the "Grown Men Playing With Toys" podcast, Erik and Steve dive headfirst into the early days of 11th edition.  Fresh off the MFM drop, deep in terrain mechanics, and (for one of them) staring down a freshly nuked wasteland of 10th Edition lists, the guys approach the discussion from a perspective of "there's a green field of list-building possibilities". Along the way they cover: * The Hidden Mechanic That Isn't — a deep dive into terrain's new Ballistic Skill penalties, the "hidden" rule and why it may not be as good as it looks * Run and Gun, Move Shoot Move — how cover changes are about to reward fast, mobile armies, and punish anyone who can't find a re-roll * Thanos-Snapping the App — app crashes, the gut-wrenching decision to delete 40 lists, and why starting from a clean slate turned out to be a blessing in disguise * Carnival of Excess, Reimagined — Erik breaks down his rebuilt Emperor's Children list and how losing his old lists led him somewhere he never would've gone otherwise * Surprise! Steve Built a List — Steve unveils a Votann Death Star list built around Einhyr Hearthguard deep strikes, double Land Fortresses, and a dare to come take his objectives * To Infinity and Beyond — Erik's list-building bender reaches an absurd, slightly concerning number and Steve has thoughts Whether you're rebuilding your own army from scratch, still mourning your favorite 10th edition list, or just want to hear two grown men argue about whether Purge the Foe is actually the best Force Disposition or just the most comfortable.....this one's for you. Check out our other content: https://gmpwt.blog/ [https://gmpwt.blog/] | https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys [https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys]

38 - Where's the Beef (List)?

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2528461/fan_mail/new] In this episode of the "Grown Men Playing With Toys" podcast, Erik and Steve take a hard left turn from their planned agenda and end up somewhere much more interesting. The cliffhanger from the All-Star Game has been rattling around in Steve's head, Erik has been 3D printing armies at an alarming rate, and somewhere in there "we lost Dad". Along the way they cover: * Pedal-Down Erik Strikes Again — two armies printed and painted in three weeks, a third in progress, and a theory about force dispositions that has already consumed most of his waking hours * Where's the Beef (List)? — how a single offhand comment at the All-Star Game unlocked Steve's entire 10th edition play style and why he's been accidentally playing stompy robot armies this whole time * The Wonder Mode Manifesto — why the space between editions is the best time to be a 40K player and why both hosts are fully, unashamedly in their feelings about it * Force Dispositions: The Good — agency, modularity, different targets for the Nerfing Eye of Sauron, and why "2DP plus 1DP" may be Erik's new favorite term * Force Dispositions: The Itchy Parts — deck stacking at the table, potential staleness in tournament play, and 3DP detachments getting counter intuitive Force Dispositions * The Army Reveals — three new armies are coming in hot and Steve is already buying paints for a model he doesn't own yet Whether you're deep in your own 11th edition wonder mode, still processing the end of 10th, or just want to hear two grown men figure out that they've been playing the same list archetype for an entire edition without realizing it.....this one's for you. Check out our other content: https://gmpwt.blog/ [https://gmpwt.blog/] | https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys [https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys]

37 - You Had One Job

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2528461/fan_mail/new] In this episode of the "Grown Men Playing With Toys" podcast, the GMPWT 10th Edition All-Star Game gets its dramatic conclusion. The lists are built, the terrain is set, the store owner has been recruited as celebrity dice roller, and absolutely nobody is ready for what the Einhyr Champion is about to do to Steve's blood pressure. Along the way they cover: * Roll For Initiative, Lose For Free — why who was going first felt like a gift to both players and why only one of them was right about that * Turn One: Steve the Rhino Hunter — two transports dead, two Deadly Demise rolls courtesy of your guest celebrity roller, and a Winged Hive Tyrant who showed up, looked scary, and then embarrassed everyone involved * Bile and the Chosen: Still Not Your Problem Until Suddenly It Is — why Fabius Bile with 10 Chosen in a Rhino is Erik's favorite unit in 10th edition and Steve's least favorite thing to look across the table at * You Had One Job — the Einhyr Champion and Steve's endless love/hate relationship with him. * The Void Dragon Cleans Up — Cousin Josh's Necron Warriors twiddle their thumbs on their home objective while the C'tan does literally everything * MVP and Magnus Awards — the heroes, the zeros, and one very expensive model who functioned primarily as a Distraction Carnifex with better hair * The 11th Edition Cliffhanger — Steve's MVPs reveal a pattern and a new army might be on the horizon heading into the new edition Whether you're here for the dice fails, the end-of-edition nostalgia, or just want to hear a store owner get genuinely invested in two grown men's war dollies.....this one's for you. Check out our other content: https://gmpwt.blog/ [https://gmpwt.blog/] | https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys [https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys]

36 - Our 10th Edition All-Star Game

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2528461/fan_mail/new] In this episode of the "Grown Men Playing With Toys" podcast, Erik emerges from his mad science cave with an idea to help Steve with the end-of-edition doldrums. The result is the most creative thing they've attempted yet.....the GMPWT 10th Edition All-Star Game. The rules are simple.  1. Pull from up to three factions within the larger groupings of Imperium, Chaos, and Xenos 2. Faction 1 units get access to their army rule but no detachments rules, stratagems, or enhancements 3. Faction 2 units get access to a single detachment's rules, stratagems, and enhancements 4. Faction 3 units get access to a single wild-card stratagem from any of their detachments.  5. Build your team not around what's strongest, but around what has a story. that reminds you of 10th edition.  6. Put it all on the table and see what happens. Along the way they cover: * Hold Our Dice, One Last Time — why the end-of-edition doldrums are real, and why the best cure is the silliest possible idea executed with full commitment * The All-Star Game Format — how Erik built a three-faction list structure that keeps things competitive, legal, and just chaotic enough to be fun * Team Chaos — Fulgrim, Fabius Bile, Cultists with a grudge, and a Knight Rampager with a stratagem that makes him everyone's problem even after he dies * Team Imperium — Whoopsie Daisy the Grand Master who cannot make a five-inch charge, Crowe and his Purifiers, and enough tanks to give Steve Ironstorm flashbacks * Team Xenos — Necron warriors that refuse to stay dead, dwarves coming out of their box of shame for one last shot at redemption, and Tyranids that all blow up * The Dating Show — Steve picks his team live, on mic, and pretends it was a difficult decision Whether you're in the end-of-edition doldrums, a die-hard fan of models that have Deadly Demise, or just someone who wants to hear two grown men get genuinely enjoy a silly but strangely nostalgic idea.....this one's for you. Check out our other content: https://gmpwt.blog/ [https://gmpwt.blog/] | https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys [https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys]

35 - Nobody Told Me the Dice Hit Back

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2528461/fan_mail/new] In this episode of the "Grown Men Playing With Toys" podcast, Erik shows up to record still licking his wounds, this time from a rough road race -except this time his own son quoted the podcast back at him like a tiny, devastating life coach.   Steve is delighted. Erik is not sure how to feel about that. What follows is an off-the-cuff deep dive into one of the most underrated reasons we play this game in the first place — the test. Not the winning. Not the math hammer. The test and what it says about you. Along the way they tackle: * Hold My Dice — why we voluntarily sign up for hard things.....on the tabletop, behind the mics, and on the pavement * The Bags Don't Hit Back — what list hammer and math hammer can't prepare you for and why that's actually the point * Dice Gods, Dice Demons — the completely irrational and deeply relatable ritual of switching dice mid-game and blaming the French judge when it still doesn't work * Concede or Commit — what a Votann vs. Chaos Knights blowout taught one of us the hard way about why staying in the hard thing is a part of the test * The Clock Is Also Your Opponent — time as a resource, a weapon, and an excuse all at once Whether you've ever switched dice out of pure superstition, rage-conceded on turn three, or just needed someone to remind you that showing up to the starting line is already passing the first test — this one is for you. Check out our other content: https://gmpwt.blog/ [https://gmpwt.blog/] | https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys [https://www.youtube.com/@GrownMenPlayingWithToys]