Hopping the Fence

Show Notes Maria’s Instagram @rattsarina [https://www.instagram.com/rattsarina/?hl=en] Maria’s website  [https://maria-simmons.com/] Rat Plastic Wood  [https://ratplasticwood.cargo.site/] Hamilton Christian Fellowship  [http://www.hcfchurch.ca/] Rat Plastic Wood at The University of Waterloo Gallery  [https://uwag.uwaterloo.ca/exhibition/maria-simmons/] FASTWÜRMS  [https://plugin.org/exhibitions/stages-2019-fastwurms/] “Unisex House of Bangs” @ Zsa Zsa   [https://www.contemporaryartgallery.ca/exhibitions/fastwurms-donkyninjawitch/] Woodlouse Hunter Spiders  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodlouse_spider] Woodlouse [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodlouse]/ Potato Bugs  University of Waterloo Gallery [https://uwag.uwaterloo.ca/] Environmental Guidelines for Museums  [https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/preventive-conservation/environmental-guidelines-museums.html] Potting Soil [https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Garden-Center-Landscaping-Supplies-Soils-Potting-Soil/N-5yc1vZcfcr] Earwigs [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig] Carnivorous plants  [https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/awesome-8/article/carnivorous-plants] Bisexual lighting  [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bisexual-lighting] Red/Blue Plantlights  [https://www.amazon.ca/Hytekgro-Lights-Growing-Seedling-Vegetable/dp/B07GWQW8GM] Full Spectrum Light [https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=broad+spectrum+light&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi9mPBhCJARIsAHchl1yC9s3Zd1DY_6ieirAYtwSDLovHlDsTYfiEQF_6jBWqJxJQmqEdcgYaApDbEALw_wcB&hvadid=395510734288&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000869&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10290078272552698907&hvtargid=kwd-329514072187&hydadcr=1732_10267613&tag=googcana-20&ref=pd_sl_88eavlyr78_e] Blader Runner lighting  [https://www.ecgprod.com/lighting-design-blade-runner-2049/] Sourkraut  [https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-homemade-sauerkraut-in-a-mason-jar-193124] Pickling  [https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-quick-pickle-any-vegetable-233882] MiracleGrow  [https://www.miraclegro.com/en-ca] Peat Moss  [https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-use-peat-moss-5089620] For the Love of Peat - 99% Invisible  [https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/for-the-love-of-peat/] Kimchi  [https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/easy-kimchi] Covid Kimchi  [https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/food-and-drink/how-gut-friendly-spicy-snack-kimchi-became-a-surprise-lockdown-favourite-uk-896433] Mennonite  [https://mennonitechurch.ca/] Jacob Irish and Julie Hall [https://www.jacobirishjuliehall.com/] DIY - Do It Yourself  Pleasure Dome  [https://pdome.org/] McMaster University - Studio Art  [https://sota.humanities.mcmaster.ca/studio-art/] HAVN [https://www.havnode.com/]- Hamilton Audio Visual Node  Sisyphus  [https://www.britannica.com/topic/Sisyphus] Home Depot  [https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home.html] How to build a wall  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZHcWUU-FbQ] Pedigree / Provenance  [https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/glossary/provenance#:~:text=Provenance%20refers%20to%20the%20history,themselves%20and%20auction%20sale%20catalogues.] Settler Colonialism  [https://globalsocialtheory.org/concepts/settler-colonialism/] Imposter Syndrome  [https://time.com/5312483/how-to-deal-with-impostor-syndrome/] Abstract art origins in kindergarden  [https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/froebels-gifts/] Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene.  If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at rebeccaecasalino@gmail.com.  Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen.  Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Transcription by Jessica Price Eisner.  Thank you so much, bye!

Rebecca Payne is a queer rural artist who is trained in painting, drawing and printmaking. They have an appreciation for banal and liminal spaces and practice sitting with fleeting moments that—in one year, one day, one minute—will pass and may never happen again the same way. Their current work explores transitional themes of experiencing loneliness, awkwardness, and the atmospheres within banal spaces. Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement. Show Notes  @laundrymatcowgrrl  [https://www.instagram.com/laundrymatcowgrrl/?hl=en] Rebecca’s work  [https://www.rebeccapayne.ca/] Rebecca’s shop  [https://www.rebeccapayne.ca/products] University of Guelph Studio Art  [https://www.uoguelph.ca/arts/sofam/undergraduate-studies/studio-art] Cross-hatching  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=117AN3MQuVs&ab_channel=HelloArtsy] Monet’s Haystacks  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haystacks_(Monet_series)] Cezanne’s Mountains  [https://outsidesuburbia.com/art/paul-cezanne/] Nom de plume  [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nom%20de%20plume] Penname  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen_name] Alter-ego [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alter%20ego] Jonah’s HTF episode [https://www.hoppingthefence.ca/podcast/episode3-jonah-strub]  [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alter%20ego] Cole Road Projects  [https://www.instagram.com/coleroadartproject/?hl=en] Costco  [https://www.costco.ca/] Grants for people outside Toronto  [https://www.arts.on.ca/grants/priority-group/artists-living-in-regions-outside-toronto] Wish You Were Here magnet  [https://www.rebeccapayne.ca/product/wish-you-were-here-at-costco] Camp  [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/style/met-gala-what-is-camp.html] David Shrigley  [http://davidshrigley.com/] Ruby Etc  [https://www.rubyetc.com/] Filthy Rat Bag  [https://filthyratbag.bigcartel.com/] Awards For Good Boys  [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607030/awards-for-good-boys-by-shelby-lorman/] TERF [https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/5/20840101/terfs-radical-feminists-gender-critical]Trans Exclusionary Feminist  Salty  [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/salty] Distillery District [https://www.thedistillerydistrict.com/] Podcast Reccomendation  Sandy and Nora’s Podcast Confronting systemic, institutional racism [https://sandyandnora.com/episode-169-confronting-systemic-institutional-racism/]  Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene. If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at rebeccaecasalino@gmail.com. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen. Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Thank you so much, bye!

Maya Ben David (MBD) is a Toronto-based Jewish-Iranian artist. Working in video, installation and performance, she creates worlds and characters that aid her ongoing exploration of anthropomorphism, cosplay and performative personas. Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement. This episode of Hopping the Fence contains discussions of antisemitism and the Holocaust. Show Notes  @thebropercent  [https://www.instagram.com/thebropercent/?hl=en] Maya’s YouTube  [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIf9BvBxb4McCSCFwK6K6MQ] Maya’s Patreon  [https://www.patreon.com/mayabendavid] The Jiggle Physics Manifesto [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfgIlviGHqo&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Anime  [https://www.crunchyroll.com/videos/anime] Fanfiction  [https://www.fanfiction.net/] Bimbo [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bimbo] Himbo  [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Himbo] Thembo  [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thembo] glowing cursed cleeve [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFWGwYnzpmk&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Air Canada Girl  [http://mayabendavid.net/air-canada-gal/] r/FineArt [https://www.reddit.com/r/FineArt/] Weird Art Group  [https://www.facebook.com/groups/739345376873272] That REALLY Weird Art  [https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatreallyweirdartgroup3] Weird and Dark Art  [https://www.facebook.com/groups/1406711079637933] Dream Core ART Alliance [https://www.facebook.com/groups/DreamCore] Fantasy and Fairy Art  [https://www.facebook.com/groups/152069596874424] Jess Price Eisner [https://www.instagram.com/meagerbeaver/?hl=en] Claudia Slogar Rick [https://www.instagram.com/fullthrottlerolemodel/?hl=en]  Snake Girl's Hyperbolic Time Chamber (A Jewish tale on intergenerational trauma) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgN_FQPW14&t=1s] Iain Soder  [https://www.instagram.com/little.shnookums/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=32f7e1fc-214e-415a-a63a-b3c20f51c6eb&ig_mid=7FB52184-8928-425B-A786-378BA0D34C74] Popcorn Ceiling Maiden  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWeqygf_p0&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Serenading the popcorn ceiling in my apartment [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cys4aQFl-Q&list=PLCHggYMIffh884r-FBxzq_39Ioq6Ovl5y&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Annie’s Song by John Denver  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOTF-znQyw&ab_channel=JohnDenverVEVO] Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamcoat  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4Fym1KImY&ab_channel=TheShowsMustGoOn%21] G-D Speaks to Snake Moses  [http://mayabendavid.net/g-d-speaks-to-snake-moses-asmr/] Samara Contemporary  [https://samaracontemporary.com/] Mold Maid [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTMP2lqOraI&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid]Vore  [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vore] Kiby [https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Kirby] Noah  [https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-was-noah/] Jewish humour  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_humor] The Holocaust  [https://www.britannica.com/event/Holocaust] WWII Crank Siren  [https://www.ww2civildefence.co.uk/hand-cranked-air-raid-sirens.html] Grotesque  [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grotesque] Jonathan Ben David [https://open.spotify.com/artist/3FYBfPhvEZkaWjVAQGsoXq] Ryan Trecartin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Trecartin] Chop Chop, Lollipop  [https://theplumb.ca/Chop-Chop-Lollipop] Scrump Runts: A Slice of Their Secret Life  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paEg2LNXyD8&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Tough Guy Mountain [http://toughguymountain.com/] Ceramic egg  [https://www.instagram.com/p/CClpTRygXMG/] I made a centaur  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzVMX3CHVME&ab_channel=MayaBenDavid] Centaur Costume at Gibralter Point  [https://www.instagram.com/p/BoKEEcgH102/] Ginny D Centaur Book  [https://www.ginnydi.com/centaur-of-attention] Etsy [https://www.etsy.com/ca/] MLM schemes  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing] Curator  [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/curator] Artist Curator Met Gala Meme  [https://www.instagram.com/p/CT6-qKeI85o/] Podcast Reccomendation  Missing & Murdered: Finding Cleo [https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/148-missing-murdered-finding-cleo] Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene. If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at rebeccaecasalino@gmail.com. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen. Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Thank you so much, bye!

Daura Campos is a Latinx, self-taught, lens-based artist and curator based in Belo Horizonte, Brazil. Her photographic practise challenges traditional image-making processes, revealing itself as more than a meta-commentary with a subtext that prompts broader conversations on the implications of existing in a dissident body. Her What the Luck series was awarded by Adolescent and exhibited in Experimental Photo Festival, Visual Space, Make Room and has been displayed on billboards in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Toronto. Earlier works have been published globally on Curated by Girls, Container Love, The Soon Project, and others. Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement. Show Notes  @daurismo [https://www.instagram.com/daurismo/?hl=en] Daura’s work  [https://daurismophoto.com/] Orange skies and pollution  [https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/atmosphere/appearance-sky#:~:text=The%20most%20heavily%20polluted%20cities,indication%20of%20increased%20air%20pollution.] Shutter and aperture  [https://www.diffen.com/difference/Aperture_vs_Shutter_Speed#:~:text=In%20photography%2C%20aperture%20refers%20to,is%20open%2C%20i.e.%20exposure%20time.] Nan Goldin [http://www.artnet.com/artists/nan-goldin/] Laurence Philomene [https://www.laurencephilomene.com/] Mentor Petrija Dos  [https://www.instagram.com/photoiste/?hl=en] Tumblr  [https://www.tumblr.com/] Roundtable Residency  [https://www.roundtable-residency.com/] Model Luiza Vita  [https://www.instagram.com/visionssofalife/?hl=en] Hamilton the Musical  [https://www.broadway.com/shows/hamilton-broadway/] GatherTown  [https://www.gather.town/] Slant Projects  [https://www.instagram.com/slant_projects/?hl=en] Theodor Ussay [https://www.instagram.com/theo_ussay/?hl=en] BIPOC Photography Mentorship  [https://www.instagram.com/bipocphotomentorship/?hl=en] Heather Morton  [https://www.instagram.com/hlmorton/?hl=en] Gallery 44  [https://www.gallery44.org/]   Podcast Recommendation The Profiles on Practice [https://femmeartreview.com/podcast/] Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene. If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at rebeccaecasalino@gmail.com. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen. Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Thank you so much, bye!

Xiao Han is an artist and curator based in Wuhan and Saskatoon. Using photography, Han’s research-creation projects investigate diaspora, identity, gender issues and cross-cultural interpretation. As an independent curator, Han has curated numerous exhibitions collectively with artists and art institutions in Canada and China. Han's public art "Yee Clun’s Lost Story'' was permanently installed, in the summer of 2017, in Regina Arts Park. This project reflects the lost story of immigrant and restaurant owner Yee Clun in Regina in 1924 when he challenged the racist "Saskatchewan's White Women's Labour Law ''. Xiao Han (Madam X) is an artist, curator and writer. With photography, Han’s artwork focuses on sexual exploration through the BDSM culture. Han organizes an online-based community with BDSM-Art activities. With this community, Han does interviews and story writing to share experiences of unique interests. Our conversation was recorded in Hamilton within Treaty 3 territory on the ancestral land of the Haudenosaunee and Anishinaabe nations under the Dish With One Spoon wampum agreement. Show Notes   Xiao’s work  [https://www.madamx.net/artworks]  TRU BA Visual Arts Photography   [https://visualarts.inside.tru.ca/studio-disciplines/photography/]  Meera Singh  [http://www.meeramargaretsingh.com/]  The One  [https://www.madamx.net/artworks/project-three-5jzje]  Yee Clun: The Lost Story  [https://www.madamx.net/artworks/project-four-7w5tg]  Cindy Sherman  [https://www.moma.org/artists/5392]  Gregory Crewdson  [https://gagosian.com/artists/gregory-crewdson/]  Lost Stories Project  [https://loststories.ca/index.html]  Value Village [https://www.valuevillage.ca/]  Ronald Rudin [https://www.concordia.ca/artsci/history/faculty.html?fpid=ronald-rudin]  OCAD MFA Criticism and Curation Practice [https://www.ocadu.ca/academics/graduate-studies/criticism-and-curatorial-practice]  CARFAC [https://www.carfac.ca/]  Madam X Conversations Blog [https://www.madamx.net/blog]  Nobuyoshi Araki [https://www.sfmoma.org/artist/nobuyoshi_araki/]  Rope Art Shibari [https://www.autostraddle.com/shibari-101-japanese-rope-bondage-350309/]  BDSM  [https://www.verywellmind.com/the-health-benefits-of-bdsm-2979720]  BDSM Candles / Wax Play  [https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/what-is-wax-play-massage-candle]  LGBTQ [https://gaycenter.org/about/lgbtq/]  Abuse vs BDSM  [https://www.submissiveguide.com/dsrelationships,%20safety,%20personalgrowth,%20fundamentals/series/series-bdsm-vs-abuse]  Foreplay  [https://www.webmd.com/sex/what-is-foreplay#:~:text=Foreplay%20%2D%2D%20also%20called%20%E2%80%9Coutercourse,%2C%20touching%2C%20or%20just%20talking.]  Forbidden Fruit [https://artspaces.kunstmatrix.com/en/exhibition/5693892/forbidden-fruits]   Foucault  [https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/foucault/]  Pinhole camera  [https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question131.htm]  Jon Rafman  [http://jonrafman.com/] Emma Watson Body Pillow [https://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/21191/1/jon-rafman-s-emma-watson-body-pillow-400] (she wasn’t naked my bad!)  Anime Body Pillows  [https://www.artsy.net/artwork/jon-rafman-how-can-you-love-one-child-more-than-another]  Pillow princess  [https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/pillow-princess/#:~:text=A%20pillow%20princess%20is%20a,they%20do%20to%20give%20it.]  Submissive Feminism  [https://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/feminism-and-sexual-submission-arent-mutually-exclusive]   Podcast Recommendation   Care to Explain Yourself? [https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026507758/care-to-explain-yourself] Code Switch Thanks for listening to Hopping the Fence, a podcast dedicated to the fringes of the Canadian art scene. If you have an artist that you would like to hear interviewed, would like to correct / fact check a past episode, or would like to chat, feel free to send me a message on Instagram @hoppingthefence, or by email at rebeccaecasalino@gmail.com. Thanks to the OCAD Student Union for your financial support. Thank you to all of our Patreons for your ongoing support. It truly does help me avoid burnout and keeps this podcast rolling. If you would like to support Hopping the Fence please visit our Patreon to subscribe. Check out the show notes for more details. If you can’t donate, no worries. Thanks for taking the time to listen. Audio editing for Hopping the Fence by Emily Reimer. Original artwork by Alex Gregory, and original music by Jessica Price Eisner. Thank you so much, bye!