Kid Contractor Podcast with Caleb Auman

E715. How to Scale Your Green Industry Business with Paid Ads

Caleb's guest is Doug Sirkoch from UpRoute [https://www.uproute.com/], a marketing agency specializing in the green industry. The conversation focuses on digital advertising strategies for landscaping and hardscaping businesses, specifically highlighting the importance of tracking metrics like customer acquisition cost (CAC) and lifetime value (LTV). Doug explains the mechanics of Google Ads and the auction-based system that determines search rankings, while emphasizing that fundamental business practices like high-quality reviews remain essential. He also touch upon Facebook retargeting and the necessity of having a professional website to convert leads effectively. The episode provides a roadmap for contractors to use paid media as a scalable lever for business growth and diagnostic improvement. Key Takeaways: * Calculate your customer acquisition cost and lifetime value to ensure your marketing spend is actually driving long-term profitability. * Maintain high-quality website content and professional imagery to establish authority and attract premium, high-paying clients. * Differentiate your business from large corporations by prioritizing personal communication and responding to leads as quickly as possible. * Commit to a consistent, long-term advertising strategy rather than turning ads on and off to allow search algorithms to optimize your results over time. * Implement retargeting campaigns on social media to stay in front of potential customers who have already shown interest in your high-ticket services. Connect with Auman Landscape 📺 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape [https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape] 🌐 All Links https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/ [https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/] 👷 👷‍♂️ 👷‍♀️ The Hardsacpe Academy https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/ [https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/] 👫 👩‍❤️‍👨 Together In The Trades https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/ [https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/] 🎓 LeanScaper's People Intensive 📍 Chicago, IL 📅 June 15–16, 2026 Learn more and register here: https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503 [https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503] Episode Sponsors 📸 CompanyCam – Get 50% off for 2 months https://companycam.com/auman [https://companycam.com/auman] 💰 Cycle CPA – Save $200 https://cyclecpa.com [https://cyclecpa.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🛠 LMN Software – Save on onboarding https://golmn.com [https://golmn.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🚜⚙️🛠️ Steelwrist https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 🛠 Leanscaperhttps://leanscaper.com/ 🚜 Equip https://www.equipexposition.com/ [https://www.equipexposition.com/]Use code: AUMAN 💰 John Pajakhttps://johnpajak.com [https://www.johnpajak.com/] 🧠 🎯 💡 FRWRD Coachinghttps://www.frwrdcoaching.com/ [https://www.frwrdcoaching.com/]

E714. Mentorship vs. College: Why Sam Fink Traded a Degree for Real-World Coaching

Caleb interviews Sam Fink, the young owner of Avid Landscapes [https://www.instagram.com/avidlandscapes/]. The conversation highlights Fink's professional evolution from a childhood lawn mower to a business owner focused on high-end planting and design. Throughout the episode, the two men discuss the transformative impact of mentorship, industry coaching, and professional networking on their careers. They address common operational struggles, such as the difficulty of saying no to unsuitable projects and the importance of meticulous job documentation. Key Takeaways: * Stop being a "chronic yes man" and start declining projects or requests that do not align with your primary goals or ideal client profile. * Prioritize investing in mentorship and high-level peer groups over traditional education if you want to accelerate your practical business knowledge. * Create written standard operating procedures and use job documentation tools to provide clarity for your team and protect your business from liability. * Practice extreme discipline with digital distractions by identifying and slaying the "dragons" like social media that pull you away from your work. * Implement 90-day sprints and use a physical calendar to track daily wins in order to build momentum toward your long-term objectives. Connect with Auman Landscape 📺 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape [https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape] 🌐 All Links https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/ [https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/] 👷 👷‍♂️ 👷‍♀️ The Hardsacpe Academy https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/ [https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/] 👫 👩‍❤️‍👨 Together In The Trades https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/ [https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/] 🎓 LeanScaper's People Intensive 📍 Chicago, IL 📅 June 15–16, 2026 Learn more and register here: https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503 [https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503] Episode Sponsors 📸 CompanyCam – Get 50% off for 2 months https://companycam.com/auman [https://companycam.com/auman] 💰 Cycle CPA – Save $200 https://cyclecpa.com [https://cyclecpa.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🛠 LMN Software – Save on onboarding https://golmn.com [https://golmn.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🚜⚙️🛠️ Steelwrist https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 🛠 Leanscaperhttps://leanscaper.com/ 🚜 Equip https://www.equipexposition.com/ [https://www.equipexposition.com/]Use code: AUMAN 💰 John Pajakhttps://johnpajak.com [https://www.johnpajak.com/] 🧠 🎯 💡 FRWRD Coachinghttps://www.frwrdcoaching.com/ [https://www.frwrdcoaching.com/]

E713. Breaking Down Our Sales & Tech Workflow.

This episode details the professional systems and operational philosophy used by Caleb Auman to manage a successful landscaping business. It highlights how specialized software and rigorous processes are essential for transforming a chaotic workload into a controlled, profitable enterprise. Caleb outlines a structured sales funnel, starting from the initial lead qualification and moving through detailed onsite measurements, design fees, and strategic payment schedules. Key tools like LMN, Company Cam, and Leanscaper are identified as the backbone of the company's "tech stack" for documentation and job costing. Key Takeaways: * Implement a strict lead qualification script to ensure you only spend time on projects that are a genuine fit for your business. * Always schedule the next appointment before finishing your current interaction so the client never has to wonder about the next step in the process. * Move away from 50/50 payment structures in favor of smaller, more frequent draws to protect your company's cash flow and minimize financial risk. * Establish a daily mid-day communication huddle with your team to sync on progress, set clear goals for the next day, and identify any immediate resource needs. * Approach sales by positioning the client as the hero of the story and yourself as the expert guide who helps them conquer their project's specific challenges. Connect with Auman Landscape 📺 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape [https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape] 🌐 All Links https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/ [https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/] 👷 👷‍♂️ 👷‍♀️ The Hardsacpe Academy https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/ [https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/] 👫 👩‍❤️‍👨 Together In The Trades https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/ [https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/] 🎓 LeanScaper's People Intensive 📍 Chicago, IL 📅 June 15–16, 2026 Learn more and register here: https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503 [https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503] Episode Sponsors 📸 CompanyCam – Get 50% off for 2 months https://companycam.com/auman [https://companycam.com/auman] 💰 Cycle CPA – Save $200 https://cyclecpa.com [https://cyclecpa.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🛠 LMN Software – Save on onboarding https://golmn.com [https://golmn.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🚜⚙️🛠️ Steelwrist https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 🛠 Leanscaperhttps://leanscaper.com/ 🚜 Equip https://www.equipexposition.com/ [https://www.equipexposition.com/]Use code: AUMAN 💰 John Pajakhttps://johnpajak.com [https://www.johnpajak.com/] 🧠 🎯 💡 FRWRD Coachinghttps://www.frwrdcoaching.com/ [https://www.frwrdcoaching.com/]

E712. The $240/Hour Mistake: Hard Lessons in Leadership and Revenue Per Hour

Caleb emphasizes the critical role of clarity in business operations, arguing that detailed communication with both clients and staff directly correlates to increased profitability. He also reflects on the importance of personal discipline, specifically regarding time management and avoiding digital distractions when working alone. Throughout the discussion, he shares honest anecdotes about leadership errors and the logistical challenges of running a high-volume contracting firm. Key Takeaways: * Increase your project's value and pricing by providing extreme clarity and granular detail in your client communications and walkthroughs. * Prioritize using machinery as a force multiplier over manual labor to protect your revenue per hour and ensure business profitability. * Develop laser focus during work hours by eliminating digital distractions and being mindful of your productivity habits when you are working alone. * Commit to getting eight hours of sleep consistently to significantly improve your leadership performance and overall physical health. * Use photo documentation at every stage of a project to eliminate communication errors and provide a factual record for clients and team members. Connect with Auman Landscape 📺 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape [https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape] 🌐 All Links https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/ [https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/] 👷 👷‍♂️ 👷‍♀️ The Hardsacpe Academy https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/ [https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/] 👫 👩‍❤️‍👨 Together In The Trades https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/ [https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/] 🎓 LeanScaper's People Intensive 📍 Chicago, IL 📅 June 15–16, 2026 Learn more and register here: https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503 [https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503] Episode Sponsors 📸 CompanyCam – Get 50% off for 2 months https://companycam.com/auman [https://companycam.com/auman] 💰 Cycle CPA – Save $200 https://cyclecpa.com [https://cyclecpa.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🛠 LMN Software – Save on onboarding https://golmn.com [https://golmn.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🚜⚙️🛠️ Steelwrist https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 🛠 Leanscaperhttps://leanscaper.com/ 🚜 Equip https://www.equipexposition.com/ [https://www.equipexposition.com/]Use code: AUMAN 💰 John Pajakhttps://johnpajak.com [https://www.johnpajak.com/] 🧠 🎯 💡 FRWRD Coachinghttps://www.frwrdcoaching.com/ [https://www.frwrdcoaching.com/]

E711. The Field-Tested Change Order Checklist: Get Paid for Every Add-On

Caleb addresses the financial and operational pitfalls of poorly managed change orders within his landscaping business. He admits to losing thousands of dollars by failing to document project additions officially, prompting him to implement a new Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) using the Leanscaper AI platform. This updated protocol requires crews to pause work, take photos in Company Cam, and secure written client approval before proceeding with any extra tasks. Beyond technical management, Auman discusses the complexities of running a business with a spouse and promotes upcoming educational workshops for industry professionals. Key Takeaways: * Implement a strict "No Surprises" policy by getting written approval for every change in project scope before any additional work begins. * Use job documentation apps to take before-and-after photos to prevent disputes and turn potential problems into quick, fact-based decisions. * Stick to your established project schedule instead of thinning out crews to start new commitments before current jobs are finished. * Create a centralized digital database for Standard Operating Procedures to empower your team to find answers and follow processes independently. * Prioritize clear communication and boundaries to protect both your professional craftsmanship and your personal relationships when running a family business. Connect with Auman Landscape 📺 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape [https://www.youtube.com/@AumanLandscape] 🌐 All Links https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 📸 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/ [https://www.instagram.com/aumanlandscapellc/] 👷 👷‍♂️ 👷‍♀️ The Hardsacpe Academy https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/ [https://www.thehardscapeacademy.com/] 👫 👩‍❤️‍👨 Together In The Trades https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/ [https://www.togetherinthetrades.com/] 🎓 LeanScaper's People Intensive 📍 Chicago, IL 📅 June 15–16, 2026 Learn more and register here: https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503 [https://leanscaper.com/events/people-intensive?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=28288176-affiliate_referrals&utm_source=Caleb%20Auman&affiliate_id=54124943503] Episode Sponsors 📸 CompanyCam – Get 50% off for 2 months https://companycam.com/auman [https://companycam.com/auman] 💰 Cycle CPA – Save $200 https://cyclecpa.com [https://cyclecpa.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🛠 LMN Software – Save on onboarding https://golmn.com [https://golmn.com/] Use code: AUMAN 🚜⚙️🛠️ Steelwrist https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape [https://linktr.ee/AumanLandscape] 🛠 Leanscaperhttps://leanscaper.com/ 🚜 Equip https://www.equipexposition.com/ [https://www.equipexposition.com/]Use code: AUMAN 💰 John Pajakhttps://johnpajak.com [https://www.johnpajak.com/] 🧠 🎯 💡 FRWRD Coachinghttps://www.frwrdcoaching.com/ [https://www.frwrdcoaching.com/]