Listening In (With Permission): Conversations About Today's Pressing Health Care Topics

Episode 150: The High and Hidden Costs of Clinical Variation with Dr. Daniel Stein

In this episode, Andréa Caballero of Catalyst for Payment Reform speaks with Daniel Stein, MD, MBA, President and Founder of Embold Health, about the high and hidden costs of clinical variation, how this shapes the trajectory of care, and what employers and employees can do to identify evidence-based providers and improve outcomes.

Episode 149: Clarity or Complexity? Unpacking PBM Reforms, Transparency, and Pricing with Joe Summers

In this episode, Andréa Caballero of Catalyst for Payment Reform speaks with Joe Summers, Vice President of New Business Development at Health Delegates, about pharmacy benefit manager (PBM) reform, the evolving policy landscape, and how employers can navigate transparency, rebates, and rising drug costs.

Episode 148: Rethinking Primary Care in a Digital World with Dr. Jason Chirichigno

In this episode, Andréa Caballero of Catalyst for Payment Reform sits down with Dr. Jason Chirichigno—internal medicine physician, digital-care pioneer, and founding clinical leader at Galileo—to unpack what truly differentiates digital medicine from traditional telemedicine, why employers are urgently seeking new care models, and how high-quality, longitudinal primary care can be delivered virtually without sacrificing relationships, access, or outcomes.

Episode 147: Measuring What Matters with Rachel Block (Milbank Memorial Fund)

In this episode, Andréa Caballero of Catalyst for Payment Reform talks with Rachel Block—Program Officer at the Milbank Memorial Fund and longtime federal/state health policy leader—about cost growth targets: what they are, why they matter, and how states, employers, and consumers can use transparent data to bend the healthcare cost curve without harming access to care.

Episode 146: Starting Fresh: Swati Mathai on a New Era of Employer Healthcare

In this episode of Listening (With Permission), Andréa Caballero of Catalyst for Payment Reform sits down with Swati Mathai—CEO and co-founder of XO Health—to explore how employers can finally move beyond the limits of legacy health plans. With more than 25 years of experience advising Fortune 500 employers, leading strategy at UnitedHealthcare and Anthem (now Elevance Health), and now building XO Health from the ground up, Swati shares why the only way forward is to start fresh.