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S6 EP #8 | Amy Chang on the Unwritten Rules Women Navigate in Real Estate and Wealth

What are the unwritten rules women learn in real estate, investing, entrepreneurship, and leadership spaces? In this episode of SARE Ladies, we sit down with Dr. Amy Chiang - founder of Forma Leaders and Transforma Systems, creator of the FORMA® methodology, and author of Survival Identity: The Hidden Patterns Running Your Work, Leadership, and Life - to unpack the identity-level patterns shaping how women lead, perform, build wealth, and navigate high-pressure industries. After spending more than two decades consulting Fortune 100 companies across technology, energy, and financial services, Dr. Chiang began noticing the same hidden patterns beneath burnout, overperformance, people pleasing, and the constant pressure to prove yourself — especially for women and people of color navigating spaces with unwritten rules. In this conversation, we explore: * Why successful women still don’t feel safe * The hidden emotional cost of constantly proving yourself * Survival mode vs authentic ambition * The psychology of women in real estate and wealth-building spaces * Why competence becomes performance * The immigrant survival patterns shaping money and leadership * Overworking, burnout, and hyper-independence * Identity, visibility, and power in male-dominated industries * What authentic leadership looks like beyond survival mode If you’ve ever: * felt like you had to work twice as hard to belong * overprepared before walking into a room * tied your worth to productivity * struggled to rest even after achieving success * felt financially successful but emotionally unsafe …this episode is for you. About Dr. Amy Chiang: Dr. Amy Chiang is the founder of Forma Leaders and Transforma Systems and the creator of the FORMA® methodology. Her work sits at the intersection of transformative learning theory, somatic science, and human systems. She earned the Jack Mezirow Living Theory for Transformative Learning Award for her doctoral work at Fielding Graduate University and is also the founder of AAPI PDX, a Portland-based community organization. Her new book, Survival Identity: The Hidden Patterns Running Your Work, Leadership, and Life, launched in April 2026. Transforma is actively seeking organizational partners, including companies investing in leadership development and organizations navigating workforce transitions. If you work in HR leadership, talent development, real estate brokerages, or investment teams at scale, connect with Dr. Chiang and her team. #WomenInRealEstate #Leadership #Burnout #WomenAndMoney #Entrepreneurship #AAPI #RealEstateInvesting #PersonalDevelopment #WomenInBusiness #SurvivalIdentity #Podcast LinkedIn [http://linkedin.com/in/amychiang] Website [http://www.survivalidentity.com] Survival Identity by Dr Amy Chiang - Out now! [https://www.amazon.com/Survival-Identity-Patterns-Running-Leadership-ebook/dp/B0GHY4B9NZ] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

How Jesse Vasquez pencils his deals and has the MTR buzz cooled off?

In this special live-recorded episode of the SARE Ladies Podcast, Anita and Ashley sit down at Jesse Vasquez’s modesto home for a candid conversation on the real state of mid-term rentals in 2026. From guru culture and viral reels to real margins, furnishing costs, vacancy risk, and operational burnout — this episode pulls back the curtain on what the MTR business actually looks like today. Jesse breaks down the back-of-the-napkin math he personally uses to evaluate deals, how he has a relationship worth $2M, what numbers investors are projecting too aggressively, and why many properties, markets, and even personalities are simply wrong for MTR. We also dive into the cooling buzz around the asset class, what operationally changed over the last few years, and whether smaller operators can still compete in an increasingly crowded space. The conversation goes beyond spreadsheets into hospitality, tenant experience, B2B outreach, and the small details that quietly kill repeat business. If you’ve ever wondered: * Is MTR still worth it? * What actually makes a deal pencil? * Or whether the “passive income” narrative was oversold… …this episode is for you. 👤 MEET THE GUEST🔗 About Jesse Vasquez: Jesse Vasquez is a real estate operator and educator who specializes in mid-term rental strategy. After spending 18 years in healthcare, he made a pivot into real estate and built a seven-figure portfolio spanning 24 properties across California and Texas. Today, he shares the systems, lessons, and practical frameworks that helped him scale, and has guided more than 600 students in building their own profitable mid-term rental businesses. Want to attend the MTR summit June 4-5? Check out the BOGO deal going on now! https://midtermrentalsummit.com/ CONNECT + LEARN MORE * https://www.youtube.com/@JesseVasquezAirVenture * https://therealjessevasquez.com/ * Instagram: @therealjessevasquez Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #6 | Beyond Real Estate: Owning the Business of Care with Kay Cabuco

Assisted living sits in a complicated place — somewhere between real estate, healthcare, and responsibility. And right now, demand is growing faster than supply. In this episode, we talk with Kay Cabuco about what it really looks like to build in this space. Kay started as a nurse and went on to build an 8-figure assisted living business, combining operations with ownership. We cover: * The difference between residential and commercial care homes * Why assisted living isn’t just a “real estate play” * What margins and revenue actually look like * And how to navigate the emotional and ethical side of this work If you’ve been hearing about assisted living and wondering what’s real vs what’s hype — this is a grounded place to start. 👤 MEET THE GUEST About Kay: Kay Cabuco, a nurse turned entrepreneur, is building her real estate portfolio through assisted living facilities that combine compassionate care with smart business strategy. She specializes in transforming underperforming care homes into thriving, high-quality environments for seniors while increasing operational efficiency and value 🔗 CONNECT + LEARN MORE * Instagram- kay.cabuco * Access to her training module [https://stan.store/kaycabuco/p/how-i-built-35kmonth-from-one-property-s78ebu1w] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #5 | Multifamily Distressed Deals: Opportunity or Trap? Corey and Candice Muldrow of M Group Capital

These days it feels like all that is left in the Multifamily space is distressed deals but for those that are ready to pull their sleeves up and ready for the challenge, we bring to you 2 experts, Corey and Candice Muldrow who have made it their careers tackling the most challenging properties out there. If you see an ugly property and you see a diamond in the rough, this is for you. 👤 MEET THE GUESTS Candice and Corey Muldrow Candice and Corey Muldrow are the Co-Founders of M Group Capital and M Group Residential. Together, they acquire and revitalize underperforming multifamily communities across the Dallas-Fort Worth market. Combining Corey's background in financial analysis and market strategy with Candice's hands-on operational oversight and leadership of their 15-person in-house team, they successfully transform distressed assets into thriving communities that deliver strong results for their investors. 🔗 CONNECT WITH THE MULDROWS * M Group Capital [https://www.mgroupcapital.com/] * LinkedIN: Corey Muldrow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreymuldrow] + Candice Muldrow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/candicemuldrow] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #4 | What the Top 1% of Real Estate Investors Do Differently , Jack Stone from No Cap Podcast + Sterling Warren of Greysteel

What actually separates investors who win deals… from those who keep chasing them? In this episode, we sit down with two insiders who see it all—who closes, who stalls, and who quietly builds massive portfolios behind the scenes. If you’ve ever wondered: * Why some investors always get access to the best opportunities * What brokers really think about buyers * And what’s actually working in today’s market This episode pulls back the curtain. 💥 Because the truth is: The winners aren’t finding deals—they’re building machines. 🔥 WHAT WE COVER * What brokers see behind the scenes that most investors don’t * Why most investors never get real deal flow * Systems vs hustle—and what actually scales * What’s working in today’s market (and what’s not) * How to build credibility and get in the room for real opportunities 👤 MEET THE GUESTS Jack Stone – Greysteel Jack co-leads the DFW multifamily sales team at Greysteel, advising private owners and institutional investors on strategic dispositions across Texas. A former practicing attorney, he is known for his exceptional marketing execution and disciplined, process-driven approach to transactions. He is also the co-host of the No Cap podcast by CRE Daily, where he interviews top industry leaders and delivers insights to an audience of 100,000+ subscribers. His thought leadership has been featured in Forbes and D CEO Magazine, and he serves nationally on the Government Affairs and PAC Committee of the National Multifamily Housing Council (NMHC). Sterling Warren – Greysteel Sterling is a Senior Associate at Greysteel in Dallas, specializing in multifamily investment sales across Texas and surrounding markets. She advises both private and institutional clients on acquisitions and dispositions and is known for her strong client relationships, deep market expertise, and ability to execute complex transactions. She is also actively involved in the real estate community and women’s leadership organizations focused on professional growth and development * 🌐 Greysteel [https://greysteel.com/] * 🎧 No Cap Podcast [https://www.credaily.com/podcast/] 🔗 CONNECT + LEARN MORE Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.