The Sadie Green Story.

E21. Numbing Conversation

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2550305/fan_mail/new] A life can look solid on the outside while feeling insecure inside. Is this universal? Is keeping oneself busy and useful an avoidance of pain and joy? Sadie shares how retirement, the end of a long relationship, and returning to therapy helped her recognize emotional numbing. Can enough approval-seeking and validation from others ever help us feel "filled up?" Does deferring wants and the "right-hand gal" role help one feel safer around power? We ponder these questions. And we reflect on separating the adult self from the child self, building emotional awareness, and welcoming feelings instead of barricading the door, ending with Rumi’s “The Guest House.”  Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < sadiegreenstory@gmail.com or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.com Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible. * Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer  * with music via Epidemic Sound * Terry Gydesen: Photographer * Polly Kellogg * Kate Tillotson * Dawn Charbonneau * Jacob Wyatt * Molly Tillotson * Julian Bowers * Wendy Horowitz * Maggie Kazel * Pat Farrell * Lynette Tabert * Laura Jensen * People's Farm Collective * Deborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast

E20. Stevie Interview

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2550305/fan_mail/new] Today, we’re joined by Stevie, Sadie’s former foster mother, to retrace the unlikely beginning of their bond. Stevie reflects on her own struggles with drinking and the choice to get sober, while Sadie shares memories of those years that still carry tenderness and humor. From there, we turn to family and wanting an apology that never comes. We revisit Sadie’s grandmother, who paid a high price for intervening.  Sadie also speaks candidly about identity, relationships, and power, including describing her shift toward dating women as a political choice. Thanks for listening. Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < sadiegreenstory@gmail.com or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.com Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible. * Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer  * with music via Epidemic Sound * Terry Gydesen: Photographer * Polly Kellogg * Kate Tillotson * Dawn Charbonneau * Jacob Wyatt * Molly Tillotson * Julian Bowers * Wendy Horowitz * Maggie Kazel * Pat Farrell * Lynette Tabert * Laura Jensen * People's Farm Collective * Deborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast

E19. Stevie

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2550305/fan_mail/new] Here, we introduce Stevie, the foster guardian who changes everything by simply offering clear expectations and real freedom. The details feel small until you realize they are the building blocks of safety, attachment, and a life that finally belongs to her.  On late-night drives, Sadie’s thoughts loop back to Ma's relentless rural labor as if she's carrying the world upon her shoulders. Sadie describes the complexities of what never fully leaves: sadness, shame, and complicated loyalty; how sympathy can exist without empathy; and why rage might miss its target.  Thanks for listening. Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < sadiegreenstory@gmail.com or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.com Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible. * Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer  * with music via Epidemic Sound * Terry Gydesen: Photographer * Polly Kellogg * Kate Tillotson * Dawn Charbonneau * Jacob Wyatt * Molly Tillotson * Julian Bowers * Wendy Horowitz * Maggie Kazel * Pat Farrell * Lynette Tabert * Laura Jensen * People's Farm Collective * Deborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast

E18. The Foster Family

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2550305/fan_mail/new] Safety can be a roof, a routine, and a full refrigerator, and yet feel like you are still holding your breath. One can learn that being “easy” is the price of peace. The story turns toward personal ways that trauma can show up: hiding food, staying invisible, expecting blame, and chasing acceptance outside the home through risk, rebellion, and whatever makes you feel less alone. Then comes a raw look at boundaries, control disguised as care, and why privacy can be survival for an abuse survivor.  Thanks for listening. Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < sadiegreenstory@gmail.com or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.com Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible. * Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer  * with music via Epidemic Sound * Terry Gydesen: Photographer * Polly Kellogg * Kate Tillotson * Dawn Charbonneau * Jacob Wyatt * Molly Tillotson * Julian Bowers * Wendy Horowitz * Maggie Kazel * Pat Farrell * Lynette Tabert * Laura Jensen * People's Farm Collective * Deborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast

E17. Secret Out and Foster home

Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2550305/fan_mail/new] Together, we talk about how early trauma shapes memory, safety, and identity, and why a child can learn to survive by guarding the biggest family rule: Never, never tell!   In this episode, a favorite staffer sits beside her on a porch and listens while Sadie says out loud what she has shielded from sight for years. Rita offers a line that changes everything: "You now have choices." That sentence becomes the first crack in shame, the first step toward foster care, and the first realization that she will be leaving people and a place that she has learned to love. Thanks for listening. Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website, http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.com. Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible. * Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer  * with music via Epidemic Sound * Terry Gydesen: Photographer * Polly Kellogg * Kate Tillotson * Dawn Charbonneau * Jacob Wyatt * Molly Tillotson * Julian Bowers * Wendy Horowitz * Maggie Kazel * Pat Farrell * Lynette Tabert * Laura Jensen * People's Farm Collective * Deborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast