The Spillway

Preventing White Supremacy: An Applied Conceptualization for the Helping Professions

In this episode, Loran Grishow-Schade reads their groundbreaking paper, "Preventing White Supremacy: An Applied Conceptualization for the Helping Professions," published by Discover Global Society. This episode explores how social workers, educators, and helping professionals can prevent White supremacy from taking root, rather than merely dismantling oppressive systems after they are built. Drawing from Critical Race Theory (CRT) and Critical Whiteness Studies (CWS), Loran argues for a shift toward prevention as a primary strategy for achieving racial equity and social justice. The paper highlights the emotional barriers, such as White guilt and White shame, that White social workers face, and how these feelings can be transformed into positive action. By incorporating trauma-informed practices, early intervention, policy reform, and cultural narrative shifts, Loran presents a comprehensive framework for preventing the perpetuation of White supremacy. Listeners will gain insights into: The limitations of reactive terms like "dismantling," "challenging", and "decentering" in addressing White supremacy. How prevention-focused social work can transform systems of oppression before they take hold. Practical strategies for equity and inclusion through group work and collective liberation. Tune in to hear Loran Grishow-Schade discuss how social work, education, and mental health professionals can lead the charge in building a society free from systemic oppression. Keywords: Preventing White supremacy, White supremacy in social work, racial equity, Critical Whiteness Studies, Critical Race Theory, social justice, White guilt, White shame, trauma-informed practices, group work in social work, racial oppression prevention, equity and inclusion, collective liberation, racial justice frameworks, social work education

Epilogue

What does it mean to continue this work after season one is completed? Jenny shares some thoughts, feelings, and actions around our individual, collective and interrelated work. ========== Welcome to our podcast. We’re so glad you’re here refocusing on Whiteness without supremacy or shame. Listen. Like. Follow. Instagram: @the.spillway | Facebook: @WithoutSupremacyorShame For a transcript of this episode and more, please visit our website, www.thespillway.org [https://www.thespillway.org/] Mentioned in this episode: The Spillway Community Guidelines 1. Engage sequentially. The show is a serial not episodic. We do this so we can build relation and find common ground and context. 2. We stay in our own lane. The Spillway is about White people talking to (predominately) White people about White people and White culture. We're not out here to critique anyone's actions but our own. 3. Our combined fabric of destiny. (3a) As Dr. King said, our humanities are deeply interconnected to each other. Racism negatively impacts me, too. (3b) The Spillway is one mechanism within a larger framework needed to sustain racial equity and justice. We're not a one-stop shop. 4. No one right way to liberation. We all share the same goals, but not every method works for every person. If this doesn't work for you. That's okay. Maybe it works for someone else.

Season One: Key Findings

What has season one taught us about what it means to be a White person in the US today without supremacy or shame? After 9 weeks, 28 hours of recording, and 12 hours of published material Jenny and Loran identify the key findings of season one. In the conclusion of our first attempt at a community assessment of White people and Whiteness, Loran and Jenny sit down to discuss the incredibly thoughtful interviews, moments, and themes which left a lasting impact on them. Questions include: * What clips had the biggest impact on you and why? * What five themes did you find were being repeated over and over again? * What three clips keep creeping into your consciousness when you least expect them? * What was the hardest thing to learn/hold and why? * If you could have every White person in the US hear one clip, what would it be and why? * Did anything surprise you in the making of this? * What would you do over if you could? * What’s your biggest takeaway? * What have you changed in your life since the podcast began? ========== Loran references Alok's guest appearance on The Man Enough Podcast which may be viewed here [https://youtu.be/Tq3C9R8HNUQ]. Bonus materials for select episodes may be found on specific episode's pages on The Spillway's website. Loran references bonus materials for Evangeline's episode which may be found here [https://thespillway.squarespace.com/podcast-s1e5]. ========== TRANSCRIPT DISCLAIMER: The following transcript was auto-transcribed by Descript software. It will be updated and cleaned in the coming weeks. Please reach out if you would like a transcript in the interim. ========== Welcome to our podcast. We’re so glad you’re here refocusing on Whiteness without supremacy or shame. Listen. Like. Follow. Instagram: @the.spillway | Facebook: @WithoutSupremacyorShame For a transcript of this episode and more, please visit our website, www.thespillway.org [https://www.thespillway.org/] Mentioned in this episode: The Spillway Community Guidelines 1. Engage sequentially. The show is a serial not episodic. We do this so we can build relation and find common ground and context. 2. We stay in our own lane. The Spillway is about White people talking to (predominately) White people about White people and White culture. We're not out here to critique anyone's actions but our own. 3. Our combined fabric of destiny. (3a) As Dr. King said, our humanities are deeply interconnected to each other. Racism negatively impacts me, too. (3b) The Spillway is one mechanism within a larger framework needed to sustain racial equity and justice. We're not a one-stop shop. 4. No one right way to liberation. We all share the same goals, but not every method works for every person. If this doesn't work for you. That's okay. Maybe it works for someone else.

White LGBTQIA+ People & Trystan Reese

What does it mean to be White and LGBTQIA+? Here we sit down with Trystan Reese (seriously, just Google him) to talk about what it means to hold the identities of White and LGBTQIA+ in the US today. Some questions include: * What does it mean to be a person who is both White and Queer? A person who is White and trans? * Is there a difference between a White Queer person and a Queer White person? * What patterns are you seeing within White queer and trans community as it relates to racial justice? * How do we make sense of the vast overlap in the Venn diagram of White trans and queer culture and cancel culture? * How do we show up intersectionally? Trystan Reese is an established thought leader, educator, and speaker, focusing on issues of transgender inclusion, social and gender justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion. He is a professionally trained facilitator and curriculum designer, studying under Rev. Dr. Jamie Washington [https://washingtonconsultinggroup.net/jamie-washington] at the Social Justice Training Institute [https://sjti.org], mastering the art of anti-racist facilitation, consulting, and coaching. He studied Intercultural Organizational Development under Beth Zemsky [https://bethzemsky.com] and was mentored by Trina Olson [https://www.teamdynamicsmn.com/team-bios/trina-c-olson] from Team Dynamics. He has completed two immersive leadership training programs at Rockwood Leadership Institute [https://rockwoodleadership.org] and learned management skills and conflict resolution strategies from Leadership Development in Interethnic Relations. Trystan has also been organizing with the trans community for nearly two decades and has been on the frontlines of this generation’s biggest fights for LGBTQ justice. Trystan launched onto the global stage as “the pregnant man” in 2017 when his family’s unique journey gained international media attention. He was invited to give closing performances for The Moth Mainstage [https://youtu.be/XcKN9lZ7QUs] in Portland, Albuquerque, and Brooklyn; the video of the Brooklyn event has garnered over 2.5 million views. Trystan partnered with many major media outlets, including CNN [https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/health/trans-man-pregnant-trnd/index.html], NBC [https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/accidental-gay-parents-celebrate-newest-addition-family-n794646], People [https://people.com/human-interest/trystan-reese-biff-chaplow-share-family-story/], and Buzzfeed [https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/what-to-expect-when-youre-a-trans-dad], to bring his message of love and resilience to the mainstream. As the founder of Collaborate Consulting [https://collaborate.consulting], Trystan provides customized training solutions for individuals, organizations, and communities interested in social justice. He has trained hundreds of medical providers on LGBTQ inclusion, has delivered keynotes at dozens of conferences and convenings, and released his first two books just last year, “The Light of You [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-light-of-you-trystan-reese/1139767813]” a book for 3-5 yo reading levels and then a book for older folks “How We Do Family: From Adoption to Trans Pregnancy, What We Learned about Love and LGBTQ Parenthood [https://bookshop.org/books/how-we-do-family-from-adoption-to-trans-pregnancy-what-we-learned-about-love-and-lgbtq-parenthood-9781615198771/9781615197569].” ========== TRANSCRIPT DISCLAIMER: The following transcript was auto-transcribed by Descript software. It will be updated and cleaned in the coming weeks. Please reach out if you would like a transcript in the interim. ========== Welcome to our podcast. We’re so glad you’re here refocusing on Whiteness without supremacy or shame. Listen. Like. Follow. Instagram: @the.spillway | Facebook: @WithoutSupremacyorShame For a transcript of this episode and more, please visit our website, www.thespillway.org [https://www.thespillway.org/] Mentioned in this episode: The Spillway Community Guidelines 1. Engage sequentially. The show is a serial not episodic. We do this so we can build relation and find common ground and context. 2. We stay in our own lane. The Spillway is about White people talking to (predominately) White people about White people and White culture. We're not out here to critique anyone's actions but our own. 3. Our combined fabric of destiny. (3a) As Dr. King said, our humanities are deeply interconnected to each other. Racism negatively impacts me, too. (3b) The Spillway is one mechanism within a larger framework needed to sustain racial equity and justice. We're not a one-stop shop. 4. No one right way to liberation. We all share the same goals, but not every method works for every person. If this doesn't work for you. That's okay. Maybe it works for someone else.

Focus Group: White Men [part two]

As this is the conclusion of the focus group, out of respect to the participants and the overall process, please make sure to listen to part one before downloading this episode What does it mean for White men to define their unfiltered experience, living in the US in the '20s? Loran and Jenny host a focus group with four White men who share their experiences of race and racism in the US today. When was the last time you heard a White man talk about what it means to be a White man without supremacy or shame? Are any stereotypes or tropes outdated? What are we getting right? What are we getting wrong? In this second episode, everyone jumps into the same conversation together. From COVID to incarceration, to wedding invites and ass-less chaps the White male participants cover a lot of ground. This conversation is part of a larger approach this season to talk about race at the intersection of gender. Please also make sure to check out Episode Two [https://www.thespillway.org/podcast-s1e2] with Breakthrough for Men founder, Fred Jealous and Episode 8 [https://www.thespillway.org/podcast-s1e8] "Beyond White Supremacy: Healing White Men as form of Violence Prevention and Harm Reduction." ========== In the episode Loran asks the men to interpret the data from the Center for Disease Control COVID tracker which may be found here [https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics]. Loran fact checks current [https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp] incarceration figures with data published in 2003 [https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/piusp01.pdf]. ========== TRANSCRIPT DISCLAIMER: The following transcript was auto-transcribed by Descript software. It will be updated and cleaned in the coming weeks. Please reach out if you would like a transcript in the interim. ========== Welcome to our podcast. We’re so glad you’re here refocusing on Whiteness without supremacy or shame. Listen. Like. Follow. Instagram: @the.spillway | Facebook: @WithoutSupremacyorShame For a transcript of this episode and more, please visit our website, www.thespillway.org [https://www.thespillway.org/] Mentioned in this episode: The Spillway Community Guidelines 1. Engage sequentially. The show is a serial not episodic. We do this so we can build relation and find common ground and context. 2. We stay in our own lane. The Spillway is about White people talking to (predominately) White people about White people and White culture. We're not out here to critique anyone's actions but our own. 3. Our combined fabric of destiny. (3a) As Dr. King said, our humanities are deeply interconnected to each other. Racism negatively impacts me, too. (3b) The Spillway is one mechanism within a larger framework needed to sustain racial equity and justice. We're not a one-stop shop. 4. No one right way to liberation. We all share the same goals, but not every method works for every person. If this doesn't work for you. That's okay. Maybe it works for someone else.