The Talent Shift: Powered by Chatterworks

Stop Selling, Start Listening: What Vendors Get Wrong at Events

Ever wonder what happens when a consultant jumps into product strategy? Spoiler: it’s not all roadmaps and wireframes. We’re talking about the human side of tech—how real conversations at conferences, a killer candidate experience, and vendor humility can shape the future of recruitment. This one’s about what actually moves the needle. In this episode we speak with Elaine Orler chief Strategy and Product Officer at Match2 to dig into her journey from consulting to product strategy, why vendor engagement matters more than ever, and how the smartest recruiters use conferences to learn—not just pitch. We break down the candidate experience, mentorship, and how to build a recruitment career rooted in real relationships. Timestamps: 00:00 — Who is Elaine Orler and why is she special? 03:00 — Consulting to Product Strategy 05:57 — Vendor Engagement at Conferences 09:01 — Learning and Networking at Events 11:59 — Candidate Experience and Industry Insights 14:58 — Reflections on Relationships and Learning This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ [https://chatterworks.com/] Connect with the guest: * Elaine Orler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaineorler/ * Website: https://match2.jobs/ [https://match2.jobs/] Connect with Us: * William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/] * Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/] Connect with us on social: * Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com [http://www.wrkdefined.com] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined [https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined [https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ [https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/] * Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined [https://twitter.com/WRKdefined] * Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ [https://wrkdefined.substack.com/]

No Résumé, No Problem: Skill-Based Hiring is Here with Nir Dovrat of Canditech

Recruiting's broken and everyone knows it. From resume roulette to HR tech that overpromises and underdelivers, the old ways are failing fast. Enter Canditech, flipping the hiring script with skill-based assessments and AI that doesn’t try to play recruiter. In this episode we sit down with Nir, co-founder of Canditech, to talk about what real innovation in hiring looks like. We get into the nuts and bolts of skill-first hiring, the overhyped role of AI, and why job simulations might be your next best hire. Plus: conference schmoozing, real talk on hiring fail points, and why most résumés should be tossed in the trash. This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ [https://chatterworks.com/] Connect with the guest: * Nir Dovrat LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nir-dovrat-2217a750/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nir-dovrat-2217a750/] * Website: https://www.canditech.io/ [https://www.canditech.io/] Connect with Us: * William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/] * Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/] Connect with us on social: * Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com [http://www.wrkdefined.com] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined [https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined [https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ [https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/] * Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined [https://twitter.com/WRKdefined] * Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ [https://wrkdefined.substack.com/]

AI Is Eating Recruiting - Here’s What’s Next, or is it? With Johnny Sanchez Head of Talent Operations at Rivian

AI isn’t just a buzzword anymore—it’s the engine behind recruiting’s next evolution. From rapid tech shifts to strange encounters with chatbots, this episode digs into what happens when innovation meets real-world hiring. Spoiler: futurism isn’t science, it’s mostly vibes. In this episode, we speak with Johnny Sanchez, Head of Talent Operations at Rivian about AI, recruiting, innovation, technology, design thinking, and the future of work. We dive into conference takeaways, personal experiences with AI, and the trends shifting the talent acquisition space. If you're wondering how AI is actually changing recruiting, this is your real-world debrief. This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ [https://chatterworks.com/] Connect with the guest: * Johnny Sanchez LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchezjohnny/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchezjohnny/] Connect with Us: * William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/] * Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/] Connect with us on social: * Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com [http://www.wrkdefined.com] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined [https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined [https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ [https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/] * Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined [https://twitter.com/WRKdefined] * Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ [https://wrkdefined.substack.com/]

You’re Either Learning or You’re Losing

Curiosity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your edge in a world moving at breakneck speed. In this conversation, we crack open what it really means to keep learning, take feedback seriously, and adapt to the tectonic shifts in recruitment, tech, and workforce dynamics. Spoiler alert: Gen Z’s not waiting for permission. In this episode speak with Edie Goldberg about curiosity, feedback, AI in recruitment, women in tech, and shifting workforce dynamics. We explore how learning keeps you relevant, how technology reshapes hiring, and why understanding context matters more than ever. If you’re navigating the future of work, this is your map. Key Takeaways: ➡ Curiosity is your professional survival kit in a fast-moving world ➡ Feedback isn't optional—it’s the fuel for leveling up ➡ New tech isn’t coming, it’s here—adapt or fall behind ➡ Gen Z isn’t chasing jobs—they’re building their own paths ➡ Women in tech are still massively underrepresented ➡ Interview norms have shifted—respect and clarity matter ➡ AI isn’t replacing recruiters, it’s supercharging them ➡ Communication without context? That’s where things break ➡ Remote culture demands new rules of engagement ➡ Continuous learning isn’t a trend—it’s a mindset ➡ Supporting women isn’t a campaign—it’s a commitment ➡ Attention is fractured—how you engage matters more than ever Timestamps: 00:00 – The Importance of Curiosity and Learning 02:53 – Feedback: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly 06:00 – Adapting to Change: Technology and Recruitment 09:02 – The Role of AI in Recruitment 11:56 – Changing Workforce Dynamics: Attracting Talent 14:56 – Empowering Women in HR Tech 17:53 – Navigating Interviews: Expectations and Etiquette 21:01 – The Impact of Technology on Attention 23:58 – Concluding Thoughts: Learning from Each Other IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ [https://chatterworks.com/] Connect with the guest: * Edie Goldberg LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/] * Website: https://www.elgoldberg.com/ [https://www.elgoldberg.com/] Connect with Us: * William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/] * Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/] Connect with us on social: * Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com [http://www.wrkdefined.com] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined [https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined [https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ [https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/] * Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined [https://twitter.com/WRKdefined] * Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ [https://wrkdefined.substack.com/]

Why Gen Z Doesn’t Care About Your Definition of “Professional”

What do Jewish weddings, Gen Z, and professionalism have in common? More than you'd think. This episode blends history, humor, and real-world workplace insight into a conversation that punches through clichés and gets to the heart of how we connect across generations. In this episode, we lay back with Danielle Farage, future of work influencer and speaker to unpack the layered history of Jewish persecution, the cultural power of humor, and how that all ties into the challenges facing today’s job seekers. We talk about weddings (yes, the dancing too), employer branding, and why redefining professionalism might be the smartest move your company hasn’t made yet. Key Takeaways: ➡ Jewish populations have drastically declined in several global regions—history matters. ➡ Humor remains a key survival mechanism in Jewish communities, especially post-trauma. ➡ Generational gaps in communication style are disrupting traditional workplace norms. ➡ Young professionals entering the workforce post-COVID face higher stress and fewer resources. ➡ “Professionalism” is a moving target—and often a biased one. ➡ Weddings tell you everything about culture—and what people value. ➡ Employer branding is no longer optional—it’s a magnet or a repellent. ➡ Redefining old-school terms like professionalism can foster inclusion. ➡ Skilled trades are making a major comeback—Gen Z is watching. ➡ Storytelling isn’t fluff—it’s your recruitment strategy in disguise. Timestamps: 00:00 – Historical Context of Jewish Persecution 02:58 – The Role of Humor in Jewish Culture 05:52 – Intergenerational Communication and Work Dynamics 08:48 – Navigating the Job Market Post-Pandemic 12:08 – Redefining Professionalism for a New Generation 14:55 – Cultural Perspectives on Weddings and Celebrations 17:58 – The Future of Work and Employer Branding IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ [https://chatterworks.com/] Connect with the guest: * Danielle Farage LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage [https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage] Connect with Us: * William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/] * Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/] Connect with us on social: * Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com [http://www.wrkdefined.com] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined [https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined [https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ [https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/] * Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined [https://twitter.com/WRKdefined] * Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ [https://wrkdefined.substack.com/]