Working on Purpose

Getting Back Up: Cultivating the Resilience That Keeps Us Human

Machines can calculate and crunch mega loads of information in lightning speed, but they can’t yet navigate heartbreak, disappointment, or the grit it takes to stand back up when life throws a its punches. Resilience is a deeply human force—a mix of emotion, intuition, and lived wisdom. With AI growing more present in our lives, nurturing this inner strength may become our most important differentiator. Dr. McMorris shares his own experience navigating adversity and how to build resilience. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

Widening the Aperture: Finding Freedom from the Habits That Keep Us Small

Cecily Mak joins us to reveal how dimming behaviors—like overworking, numbing, or self-soothing—quiet our inner truth. As she unpacks her own journey, she shows how facing what we avoid grants clarity, emotional depth, and renewed choice. This is your invitation to learn about reclaiming presence, agency, and the vibrant edges of being fully alive. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

When Work Becomes a Death March: One Leader’s Wake-Up Call

In today’s hustle-obsessed culture, overwork is often glorified as loyalty. For Roderick Jefferson, that mindset nearly cost him everything. After a devastating health collapse, he was forced to face the consequences of relentless drive. Now, he shares how faith, family, friends, and fun helped him recover—and why real success begins when you stop running yourself into the ground. His journey reminds us that the greatest success is not in how hard we work, but how fully we live. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

Evolving into the Secure Leader You’re Meant to Be

Every leader carries a story that shapes how they relate, influence, and inspire. Whether you lead from security, anxiety, or avoidance, you can rewrite that story. Learn to reexamine your personal narrative, extract its wisdom, heal old scripts, and consciously reauthor your path toward grounded, secure, and vibrant leadership. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

Why Work Isn’t Working: The 6 Overlooked Motivations Leaders Must See

Why do so many employees feel drained, unseen, or stuck at work? Often, it’s because leaders unknowingly still architect work as if everyone is driven by the same rewards. The truth? People come six distinct motivations, rooted in personal history, values, and nature itself. When organizations cater to only one, disengagement and frustration flourish. Join us as we explore James Root’s research and reveal how enlightened leaders can finally design work that inspires everyone to thrive. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].