No Manual Included- A Kansas Education Podcast on Leadership

Podcast by Ron Barry and Greg Lehr

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About No Manual Included- A Kansas Education Podcast on Leadership

Welcome to No Manual Included, the podcast where two Kansas superintendents dig into what it really means to lead in a world where there’s no instruction book for the challenges we face. I’m Greg Lehr from USD 262, joined by Dr. Ron Barry from USD 440, and every episode we have candid conversations about leadership, growth, and the future of education in Kansas. We explore with our guests the experiences that shape us, the decisions that define us, and the communication and collaboration that make strong school communities possible. If you’re an educator, leader, or someone who cares deeply about the direction of our schools, you’re in the right place. Let’s dive in — because leadership doesn’t come with a manual, but we can learn a lot by talking through it together.

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6 episodes

NMI Episode 7: Dr. Randy Watson - Commissioner of KSDE

Join Greg and Ron as they do a live podcast from the USAKansas Conference with the Kansas Commissioner of Education, Dr. Randy Watson. Greg and Ron sit down with Dr. Watson and fellow administrators as he reflects on his career as a teacher, coach, building administrator, assistant superintendent, superintendent, and Commissioner of Education at KSDE.

3 Jun 2026 - 37 min

NMI Episode 6: Adrian Howie Superintendent USD 210

Greg and Ron sit down with the Superintendent of USD 210, Adrain Howie to discuss the people that had the greatest impact on his leadership journey, how he adapts his leadership style, his passion for western Kansas school districts, and so much more!

14 May 2026 - 33 min

NMI Episode 5: Cindy Couchman USD 313

Greg and Ron link up with the USD 313 Superintendent of Schools, Cindy Couchman, from Buhler, Kansas. Cindy longtime classroom teacher and Kansas Teach of the Year winner, who then served as Curriculum Director, and finally transitioned into the Superintendent role in the community that she has served for many years. She is the current Kansas School Superintendent Association President, where she guides our professional organization through advocacy, recognition, and continued education.

29 Apr 2026 - 29 min

NMI Episode 4: Dr. Cory Gibson USD 232

Greg and Ron welcome Dr. Cory Gibson, Superintendent at USD 232 DeSoto Schools where he shares his unique connection to our two hosts.

15 Apr 2026 - 26 min

NMI Episode 3 with Don Potter - Circle USD 375

Join Ron and Greg as they welcome their 3rd guest on the podcast, Don Potter. Don currently is the superintendent at Circle USD 375 and has served in that position since 2017. He has over 27 years of experience in K12 education serving as a teacher, coach, principal, and district administrator . He was a 2024 Superintendent of the Year Finalist for the state of Kansas and previously served as the Superintendent of USD 461 in Neodesha, Kansas.

1 Apr 2026 - 24 min

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