Avoiding Babylon

Pax Judaica: The Empire of Spectacle w/ Dr. Deep State

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/fan_mail/new] Everything feels louder than it should, and somehow less real at the same time. That’s the tension we sit with as Dr. Haugen (Dr. Deep State) joins us to talk about spectacle, propaganda, and the slow spiritual cost of living inside an attention economy that never stops asking for your fear, your outrage, and your loyalty. We dig into the core idea behind his new book, Saints of the Apocalypse: the apocalypse can look like distraction, not just disaster. From political theater and mass persuasion to the way online narratives “train” desire, we ask what discernment looks like when the world feels scripted. We also connect this to Catholic theology and typology, including St. Stephen, the Church’s historical memory, and how different readings of Romans 9–11 shape conversations about ecumenism and modern religious identity. From there, we turn to the interior battle: hypocrisy as religious performance without divine content, the temptation to trade truth for comfort, and the urgent need to learn how to suffer well. We close by touching big themes Dr. Haugen explores elsewhere, including AI, the metaverse as a modern Tower of Babel, and Fatima as a warning against confusion that masquerades as peace. If this conversation helps you see the spectacle more clearly, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find it. What part of modern life feels most like “theater” to you right now? Support the show [https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/abbateanthony?locale.x=en_US] Need seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company. Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise:  https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps:  https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Good Friday Has Changed — Most Catholics Don't Know This (with Father Mawdsley)

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/fan_mail/new] Holy Week hits different when you stop treating it like a reenactment and start treating it like formation. We sit down with Father Mawdsley to talk about the older Catholic instincts that the liturgy can rebuild: steady trust under pressure, clarity about what the Church is doing at the altar, and the quiet courage to refuse performative participation when something feels spiritually off. We get specific about the Good Friday liturgy, the solemn intercessions, and the practical question many people ask every year: when do you genuflect, and when do you remain standing? From there we move to Palm Sunday and the Passion reading, and why speaking certain crowd lines as a congregation can confuse contrition with participation. Along the way we keep coming back to the Traditional Latin Mass, pre-1955 Holy Week, and the claim that the rites don’t merely reflect Catholic belief, they shape Catholic reflexes. The conversation widens into bigger questions about propaganda, war reporting, and how Christians hold moral lines when everything feels like spectacle. We also take a listener question on usury and modern finances, including retirement accounts and how to detach from systems you didn’t build without letting money rule your life. If this helped you think more clearly about Catholic Holy Week, the Good Friday prayers, and the role of tradition in spiritual life, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest Holy Week question. Support the show [https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/abbateanthony?locale.x=en_US] Need seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company. Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise:  https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps:  https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Traditional Latin Mass Ban Is Ending? Leo & Parolin Drop Bombshells

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/fan_mail/new] A single rumor from Rome can light the fuse again: is Pope Leo quietly trying to de-escalate the fight over the Traditional Latin Mass and stop turning Catholic liturgy into a battlefield? We start with the latest chatter around easing hostility toward TLM communities after Traditionis Custodes, then zoom out to the deeper question: what does fidelity look like when Church politics, social media, and constant scandals train us to pick teams instead of pursuing holiness? We also get honest about how online Catholic drama warps the soul. The temptation is to draw hard lines, label people, and turn “calling out” leaders into a sport. We push back on that impulse and talk about why cohesion matters, especially if the cultural weather keeps shifting toward real hostility. The point isn’t to pretend everything is fine. The point is to stay in the Church, stay near the sacraments, and refuse to let rage replace judgment. From there we dig into Scripture and history, including Genesis 3:15 and the theme of spiritual conflict, plus why the liturgy itself keeps forcing these questions back onto the table especially as we head into Holy Week and the Triduum. We react to a clip about a young adult stumbling into a reverent Mass and realizing, “This is what I’ve been missing,” and we ask what that says about worship, culture, and the future of Catholic life. If this kind of deep Catholic commentary helps you think clearly, subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review. And if you want the extra segments and early access to upcoming guest conversations, join us on Locals. Support the show [https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/abbateanthony?locale.x=en_US] Need seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company. Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise:  https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps:  https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

Protestants Team Up with Kosher Catholics to Attack Scott Hahn

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/fan_mail/new] A husband posts that his wife “was formerly promiscuous” and he “was a virgin,” and somehow we’re all expected to nod along like it’s spiritual content. That moment opens a bigger problem we can’t ignore: testimony culture is starting to look like confession-as-branding, where past sin becomes a credential and conversion becomes a content strategy. We dig into what this does to the moral imagination, especially for younger Christians who grew up trying to live faithfully. When dramatic stories get rewarded, it quietly teaches that holiness is boring and that wreckage is a prerequisite for meaning. We talk about repentance versus performance, the temptation toward antinomian thinking, and why public scandal isn’t erased by a quick “sorry” when real harm was done. Then we pivot to the political-theology fight blowing up online: Catholic integralism, natural law, religious liberty, and why figures like Scott Hahn are suddenly getting name-dropped as threats on mainstream shows. We react to the Eric Metaxas clip with James Lindsay and John Zmirak, clarify what integralism actually claims about the relationship between temporal power and spiritual authority, and challenge the “we don’t impose morality” line that collapses the moment you remember that every law encodes a moral vision. We also connect the dots to the convert boom narrative, Zionism pressure, Gaza framing, and the way “anti-Semitism” gets used as a debate-ending weapon. We read and respond to public statements in the Carrie Prejean Boller controversy and Bishop Robert Barron’s response, emphasizing the need to condemn real racism while refusing to treat all criticism of Israel, Judaism, or public behavior as hatred. If you want clearer categories, sharper definitions, and less propaganda in Christian discourse, this one is for you. Subscribe, share the show, and leave a review, then tell us what you think: where should Christians draw the line in public speech? Support the show [https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/abbateanthony?locale.x=en_US] Need seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company. Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise:  https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps:  https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss

The State of Tradistan w/ Catholic Esquire

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! [https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/fan_mail/new] One bad Mass can haunt you for years. So can one truly reverent one that finally makes the Catholic faith click. We sit down with Catholic Esquire to trace the path a lot of serious Catholics have quietly taken: from lukewarm Novus Ordo parish life, to apologetics and “doing all the programs,” to the shock of realizing how much the liturgy forms what we believe about sin, sacrifice, and the Eucharist. We talk about the Traditional Latin Mass not as nostalgia, but as a place where the prayers and posture teach the faith with force and clarity. COVID comes up as the accelerant. When parishes shut down Mass and delayed sacraments, many people stopped trusting the idea that everything was fine and started seeking a community that would protect a sacramental life. From drive-through confessions to Communion policies that felt irreverent, we unpack why 2020 pushed people “full trad” and why even defenders of the status quo still end up parish-shopping for reverence. Then we go big: Vatican II, religious liberty, ecumenism, and the social kingship of Christ. We explore why these debates connect to the current Catholic crisis, why sedevacantism arguments keep growing, why the SSPX question won’t go away, and how online “trad wars” can destroy charity if we let them. If you’re trying to raise a family, keep the faith, and think clearly about authority, this conversation is for you. Subscribe for more conversations like this, share it with a friend who’s wrestling with the same questions, and leave a review with the biggest point you disagreed with. Support the show [https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/abbateanthony?locale.x=en_US] Need seafood for Lent? Check out https://shoplobster.com/ and use code AB10 to get 10% from Maine's ONLY Catholic lobster company. Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off of your first order! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise:  https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps:  https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss