Beyond The Known

Brad Sugars: Why Your Business Should Run Without You (And How to Make It Happen)

Brad Sugars built the world's largest business coaching franchise from a single accidental phrase at a seminar. But the deeper lesson from 33 years coaching entrepreneurs isn't about systems or cash flow. It's about why most business owners are building a prison without knowing it, and what it actually takes to build something that can outlast you. From the four phases of a scalable business to the psychology of exits, strategic buyers, and why your first million is about you but your next ten million requires you to let go, this is one of the most practical and perspective-shifting conversations we have had on the show.

From Depression to Purpose: Elan Gepner-Dales on Bringing Breathwork Into Every School

Elan Gepner-Dales was 11 years old when a classmate died of leukemia and his world fell apart. What followed were years of depression, nihilism, burnout, and a relentless search for something that could hold. What he found was breath. Now as Executive Director of SKY Schools USA, Elan has brought breathwork and social-emotional learning into 265 schools across 29 states, responding to a youth mental health epidemic where 30% of graduating seniors carry diagnosable anxiety disorders. This conversation is about what we owe our children, what ancient wisdom offers that no pill can, and why the most powerful tool for the next generation has been inside them all along.

From Partition to NASDAQ: Kanwal Rekhi on Breaking the Silicon Valley Glass Ceiling

Kanwal Rekhi was two years old when he stood alone in a flood during the Partition of India, separated from his family in a temple. Decades later, he would stand equally alone as the first Indian-American to take a venture-backed company public on NASDAQ. In this conversation with host Jitesh Vaswani, Kanwal traces the full arc: the glass ceilings he hit as an engineer, the moment a former employee became an entrepreneur and dared him to do the same, and what it really took to build Excelan and co-found TiE. His memoir is called 'The Groundbreaker.' This episode will remind you why it is not a shame to fail as an entrepreneur but it would be a shame never to try.

Leanne Perice: The Woman Who Captures 1.3 Billion People’s Attention

Leanne Perice built MADE BY ALL from cold emails and zero connections into one of the most respected talent management companies in the creator economy, now overseeing a combined audience of 1.3 billion people. In this conversation with Jitesh Vaswani, she shares the spiritual practice that guides every business decision, the MBA framework she created to turn creators into household names, and the lesson her mother taught her in a funeral home that completely changed how she thinks about serving her clients. This is a rare, unguarded look at what it means to lead with soul in an industry that rarely slows down long enough to ask why.

John Osborne: What 50 Years of Meditation Taught a Venture Capitalist About Higher Consciousness

John Osborne has lived inside two worlds most people never enter separately, let alone together. He spent years in a Trappist monastery in silence, built a three-decade career in venture capital and investment banking, helped thousands of military veterans heal from PTSD through breathwork, and has traveled the world with Gurudev Sri Sri Ravi Shankar since 1989. In this conversation, John traces the single thread running through all of it: the direct experience of consciousness that no credential can fully describe and no analysis can replace. If you have ever felt that your inner life and your outer ambitions are pulling in opposite directions, this episode is for you.