Real Health Talk

Episode 54: The Work Is Never Done - And That's the Point

Episode Description Jordan and Zak trace their journeys from rigid, system-bound practitioners to where they are now - trusting their intuition, sitting with uncertainty, and actually enjoying the process. They get into what it really means to work with someone (and be someone) who's still on the path, why curiosity is the most underrated clinical tool, and why the best coaches are the ones who haven't got it all figured out. 💫 Stay Connected * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://airtable.com/appHgmDRWwn73FY1B/shrhoU6KMxm9CtKRx] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.jordandavey.com/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.skool.com/organicoptimisation/about?ref=59aab9aa7b9c4c129f56c4f1be984de4] * ⁠Join Zak's community⁠ [https://the-lifestyle-movement-project.circle.so/membership] Instagram:  Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jordan_davey] Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/coachzakgoold] Timestamps 0:00 — Intro: 27 degrees, first of May, surf coast, zero structure 1:50 — From PT and psych to here — how both their practices evolved 4:30 — What happens when your clients don't get better and you run out of answers 7:20 — Steph Curry misses more shots than anyone — failure as the craft 10:00 — The blind spot: nailing protocols but forgetting to tell people to go outside 12:30 — Why doctors protect their degrees even when the system fails people 15:00 — The functional health trap — still a system, just a different one 17:30 — Sharpening the blade vs. getting a new one — you're not broken 20:00 — What it actually means to take someone on a journey, not just fix them 22:30 — Jaden, Paul Chek, and what embodied conviction actually looks like 24:30 — The Tao Te Ching paradox: to know everything, be okay knowing nothing 26:30 — Knots in the mind — untangling belief systems and childhood patterns 28:30 — Your body's not letting you down. You're letting your body down. 30:00 — There's never a perfect time to start — scarcity mindset around money and health 32:00 — Jordan on Lenny, sleep deprivation, and finding beauty in the 3am wake-up 35:30 — Vulnerability in friendship — the conversation that cleared the air 37:30 — Close: Father Sun, gratitude, and it's all love

Episode 53: Energetics, Authenticity & The Shadow - Who Are You When No One's Watching?

Episode Description In this raw, unfiltered episode Jordan and Zak go deep on the body as an energetic map, why your fascia holds more than just physical tension, and what it actually takes to show up as your most authentic self in a world designed to keep you contracted. No scripts. No edits. Just real talk. 💫 Stay Connected * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://airtable.com/appHgmDRWwn73FY1B/shrhoU6KMxm9CtKRx] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.jordandavey.com/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.skool.com/organicoptimisation/about?ref=59aab9aa7b9c4c129f56c4f1be984de4] * Join Zak's community [https://the-lifestyle-movement-project.circle.so/membership] Instagram:  * Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jordan_davey] * Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/coachzakgoold] 🎧 Chapters * * 0:00 — Intro: ginger tea, organic tobacco and settling into the surf coast * 3:30 — Ergonomic setups, working outdoors and investing in your posture * 8:00 — Kelly Starrett's vital signs, changing positions and why you can't sit on the floor * 14:00 — Infant movement, end range mobility and what we lose as we grow * 18:30 — The vagus nerve, fascia and why you're always tight no matter what you do * 24:00 — Breath work, myofascial release and owning a position * 28:30 — The body as a map: emotional release, shoulder tension and stored memory * 33:30 — Empaths, people pleasers and carrying energy that was never yours * 37:00 — Losing authenticity in the age of AI, social media and fear * 40:00 — Carl Jung, the shadow and the projection trap * 44:00 — Seeking externally vs giving it to yourself: high states vs contracted states * 47:00 — Polarity, equanimity and being okay in the contraction * 49:30 — Who are you without your title, your role or your label? * 51:08 — Close

Episode 52: The Placebo Is You: Why Your Belief System Is Your Most Powerful Health Tool

Episode Description This one's a free-flowing, honest conversation about what it actually means to show up for your health - and your life without being enslaved to outcomes or evidence. Jordan and Zak unpack why finding a hobby you genuinely love (bass, surfing, reading, painting = whatever it is) might be one of the most underrated health practices you can have. Dr. Happiness isn't a punchline; it might be the whole point. They also get into the traps people fall into in both conventional and holistic health systems, the difference between accumulating knowledge and actually embodying it, and why being authentic enough to be hated by some people is a sign you're doing something right. 💫 Stay Connected * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://airtable.com/appHgmDRWwn73FY1B/shrhoU6KMxm9CtKRx] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.jordandavey.com/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.skool.com/organicoptimisation/about?ref=59aab9aa7b9c4c129f56c4f1be984de4] Instagram:  * Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jordan_davey] * Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/coachzakgoold] 🎧 Chapters Timestamps 0:00 — Intro: picking up bass, jamming instead of recording, and how it all started 4:20 — Devotion to the practice: flow state, hobbies, and getting out of your head 9:10 — Belief in yourself, high performers, and controlling intention not outcomes 14:00 — Breathwork, psychedelics, and surrendering control of what comes up 17:30 — Detaching from the evidence: why results always show up last 23:45 — Dr. Happiness, joy, and humor as lost health fundamentals 30:00 — Surrounding yourself with people who energise you vs. drain you 35:10 — Authenticity, projections, and why being liked by everyone is a red flag 41:00 — The quote: "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you're not" 44:30 — The comfort crisis: Uber Eats, AI, Ozempic and the Wally future 50:00 — Learning through embodiment, not accumulation — Gerry Pollack and water 54:30 — Simplicity vs. complexity in health: the Check system and getting back to foundations 58:00 — When to ask for help — and why it's a sign of integrity, not weakness 1:01:13 — Close

Episode 51: Nervous System, AI, Child Immunisation, Intuition, and the Future of Wellness

Episode Description We kick off 2026 with a proper catch-up after a summer of travel We unpack parenthood, boundaries, and what it actually takes to be present, not just productive. Then we go deeper into intuition and decision-making (especially under pressure), nervous system regulation as the real foundation, and why “how you do it” matters as much as “what you do”. We finish with a big conversation on AI, where it helps, where it subtly erodes creativity and independence, and why the future belongs to people who can stay human, build community, and lead with real presence. 💫 Stay Connected * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://airtable.com/appHgmDRWwn73FY1B/shrhoU6KMxm9CtKRx] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.jordandavey.com/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.skool.com/organicoptimisation/about?ref=59aab9aa7b9c4c129f56c4f1be984de4] Instagram:  * Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jordan_davey] * Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/coachzakgoold] 🎧 Chapters * 00:00 – Back for 2026, travel catch-up, and resetting the lens New Year energy, Tassie vs NZ, summer rhythm, and why this ep is a proper catch-up. 05:55 – Tassie: food, family, and the pull back to slowness Wild seafood, “motherland” feelings, and how places you wanted to escape can call you back. 10:45 – Merimbula + the power of a big view Why looking out at the horizon changes your baseline, creativity, and nervous system. 14:30 – New Zealand: South Island road trip, water, mountains, perspective Wedding, Christchurch, Twizel, Wanaka, Queenstown, and what a real break does to your mind. 19:35 – Time off, honouring what you’ve built, and coming back sharper Celebrating the work without living on autopilot, boundaries that actually stick. 24:05 – Fatherhood, presence, and protecting the sacred afternoon window Minimum effective dose in business, the cost of “yes”, and being there for the moments that matter. 29:10 – Men becoming fathers, the gradual shift vs the shock Preparing early, mirroring the slow-down, and why it reduces resistance later. 33:35 – The vaccine tension: values, projection, and staying steady Navigating friends/family opinions, not over-explaining, and holding your line without war. 40:10 – Intuition vs fear, and how to make decisions in the right state Body signals, state-based decision making, and why rushed conversations create “yuck” choices. 47:00 – Nervous system regulation in real life (not just more practices) Presence as a way of living, chewing food as a daily anchor, and the “how” over the “what”. 52:20 – Dopamine, distraction, and why people can’t integrate what they know Detoxing stimulus, getting awareness back, and letting clarity come to you. 57:40 – AI: tool vs takeover, and the future being more human Why people will crave real presence and community, and where coaches become more important, not less. 1:03:40 – Wrap-up: what’s next (Q&A, gut health, peptides) + closing reflections Upcoming episodes, communities, and locking in the rhythm for 2026.

Episode 50: Fifty Conversations In, Just Getting Started - What This Journey Has Taught Us

Episode Description We talk about what the podcast has actually taught us, integration over information, vulnerability, removing masks, and becoming the role model for your family. We explore authenticity in an AI-driven world, intuition vs outsourcing answers, and why health is never the destination, it’s the foundation that allows you to actually live. 💫 Stay Connected * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Zak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://airtable.com/appHgmDRWwn73FY1B/shrhoU6KMxm9CtKRx] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Jordan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.jordandavey.com/] * ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join Jordan’s Skool community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.skool.com/organicoptimisation/about?ref=59aab9aa7b9c4c129f56c4f1be984de4] Instagram:  * Jordan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@jordan_davey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jordan_davey] * Zak: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@coachzakgoold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/coachzakgoold] 🎧 Chapters * 00:00 – Episode 50 on the beach, mangoes, flies, and raising the stick Secret Victorian location, staying present, and why this episode has no plan. * 03:20 – From Yarraville to freedom Early podcast days, hustle mode, and how Real Health Talk forced embodiment. * 07:00 – Authenticity, intuition, and the AI era Why being real will matter more than ever moving forward. * 10:40 – Information vs energy Why transcripts, show notes, and data never replace presence and transmission. * 14:00 – Health, intention, and the human experience Health as a foundation for living, not an end goal to chase. * 18:30 – Letting go of certainty and fear Health anxiety, control, and why embracing the unknown is part of life. * 23:10 – Learning properly in a world of convenience Books, mentors, reps, and why wisdom comes from depth, not shortcuts. * 27:30 – Biggest lessons from Episode 1 to 50 Integration, vulnerability, removing masks, and trusting your path. * 32:00 – The sauna origin story How Real Health Talk started and why brotherhood matters more than the “asset”. * 35:20 – Closing reflections Gratitude, timeless assets, 50 down, and what this podcast is really about.