The Greg McKeown Podcast

368. NFL LEGEND: If You Keep Loving Like This, Every Relationship Will Fail

NFL legend Steve Young joins The Greg McKeown Podcast to discuss his book "The Law of Love," exploring a pivotal moment when Stephen Covey helped him shift from a transactional, self-focused mindset to one centered on unconditional love during his difficult early years replacing Joe Montana. The conversation delves into how reducing "transactional noise" in relationships—the need to be special, acclaimed, or right—unlocks deeper connection and abundance in business, family, and all aspects of life. Young argues this principle is universal and "undefeated," supported by science, mathematics, and wisdom traditions alike. Buy the Book: The Law of Love⁠ [https://amzn.to/4rXHA47] by Steve Young Join Greg's weekly ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/]. Learn more about Greg's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠books and courses⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://gregmckeown.com/]. Join ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Essentialism Academy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://essentialism.com/]. Follow Greg on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/gregorymckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://twitter.com/GregoryMcKeown], ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/GregMcKeownSpeaker/], and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregorymckeown].

367. Poems, Prayers, and the Courage to Believe with Matthew McConaughey

What do we do when logic isn’t enough? Greg sits down with Matthew McConaughey to explore poems, prayers, and the disciplined choice to believe—over cynicism, doubt, and apathy. Together they read new pieces from Poems & Prayers and unpack how language, rhythm, and ritual can metabolize suffering into meaning and forward motion. Buy the Book: Poems & Prayers [https://www.amazon.com/Poems-Prayers-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/1984862103] by Matthew McConaughey Join Greg's weekly ⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/]. Learn more about Greg's ⁠⁠⁠⁠books and courses⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://gregmckeown.com/]. Join ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Essentialism Academy⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://essentialism.com/]. Follow Greg on ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/gregorymckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://twitter.com/GregoryMcKeown], ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/GregMcKeownSpeaker/], and ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregorymckeown].

366. Ward Clapham on The Secret Weapon for Solving Crime

What if policing could move from reacting to crime to building trust before it begins? In this episode, I speak with Ward Clapham, the former Police Chief in Richmond, Canada, who pioneered the “positive ticketing program.” This simple idea—rewarding positive behavior instead of only punishing negative—transformed community trust and dramatically reduced crime. At the heart of Ward’s leadership was listening. Not just hearing, but listening with empathy, which shaped his career and even influenced policing worldwide. This isn’t just about policing. It’s about the universal power of listening-led leadership—in families, businesses, and communities. The invitation is clear: listen deeply, and watch what changes. Visit Ward's Website [https://www.wardclapham.com/] Join Greg's weekly ⁠⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠⁠ [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/]. Learn more about Greg's ⁠⁠⁠books and courses⁠⁠⁠ [http://gregmckeown.com/]. Join ⁠⁠⁠The Essentialism Academy⁠⁠⁠ [https://essentialism.com/]. Follow Greg on ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/gregorymckeown/], ⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠ [https://twitter.com/GregoryMcKeown], ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/GregMcKeownSpeaker/], and ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregorymckeown].

365. The Systems Leader with Robert Siegel

In this conversation, I’m joined by Robert E. Siegel, author of The Systems Leader, to unpack the essential mindset shifts leaders must make in a complex, fast-moving environment. We explore the tensions leaders face—like balancing innovation with execution, and strength with empathy—and how the most effective leaders navigate these paradoxes with clarity and purpose. Drawing from real stories of leaders like Jeff Immelt of GE and Michael Dowling of Northwell Health, Robert shares why systems thinking, strong relationships, and the ability to adapt are no longer optional—they're essential. If you want to lead with greater clarity in the chaos, this episode is for you. Buy Robert's Book ⁠"⁠The Systems Leader [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593800044]"⁠ Visit Robert's ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ [https://www.robertesiegel.com/] Follow Robert on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertesiegel/] Join my weekly ⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠ [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/]. Learn more about my ⁠⁠books and courses⁠⁠ [http://gregmckeown.com/]. Join ⁠⁠The Essentialism Academy⁠⁠ [https://essentialism.com/]. Follow me on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckeown/], ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/gregorymckeown/], ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ [https://twitter.com/GregoryMcKeown], ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/GregMcKeownSpeaker/], and ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregorymckeown].

364. The Power of Being Shameless, Selfish, and Nosy with Jenny Wood

What if the only thing standing between you and the life you truly want is the courage to begin? In this episode, I speak with Jenny Wood—former Google executive and author of Wild Courage [https://wildcouragebook.com/]—about what it means to pursue the essential with boldness. Jenny shares how she walked away from a high-powered role to write the book she felt called to create. We explore the power of being shameless, curious, and even a little reckless when the moment demands it. You’ll hear how she faced down fear, navigated imposter syndrome, and embraced the uncomfortable path toward growth. This is a conversation about clarity, action, and living with wild courage—the kind that leads you not just to success, but to meaning. Buy Jenny's Book ⁠"Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It [https://wildcouragebook.com/]"⁠ Visit Jenny's ⁠Website⁠ [https://itsjennywood.com/] Follow Jenny on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyilles/] Join my weekly ⁠newsletter⁠ [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/]. Learn more about my ⁠books and courses⁠ [http://gregmckeown.com/]. Join ⁠The Essentialism Academy⁠ [https://essentialism.com/]. Follow me on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmckeown/], ⁠Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/gregorymckeown/], ⁠X⁠ [https://twitter.com/GregoryMcKeown], ⁠Facebook⁠ [https://www.facebook.com/GregMcKeownSpeaker/], and ⁠YouTube⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregorymckeown].