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Talking about global trade during the 2020s and into the 2030s in the context of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement on Trans-Pacific Partnership (the CPTPP). New podcast updates every Monday.

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episode The CPTPP Podcast - 20: “Don’t ever put fish on your fruit salad” cover

The CPTPP Podcast - 20: “Don’t ever put fish on your fruit salad”

Podcast 20 - “Don’t ever put fish on your fruit salad” Three good trade (and related) listens… All things US trade with Jeffrey J. Schott Enforcement / legal angles became more theoretically important with the WTO People have to live by it, enforcement challenges etc. ‘for both economic and political reasons’ Latter point is why more regional-style trade deals (EU, Mercosur) CPTPP push complements and supplements the general WTO push for members; may provide some ‘interesting way forward’ Advantage of separate processes, avoid ‘larger members’ who are unwilling to open up in a WTO-form Changes for trade deals are coming - the USMCA will be a new focus re this. ‘There is a real risk that we are putting the pressure off our foot, rather than putting it on the gas medal’ ‘We do better when our partners do better’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rIIV8-pALk&list=PL_x8a0z7Y1m6cHUGs1kOVZRM-acAVEOmH&index=1 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rIIV8-pALk&list=PL_x8a0z7Y1m6cHUGs1kOVZRM-acAVEOmH&index=1] How To Win a Trade War with friends Rules-based approach Elephant in the room (China) The importance of who your supplier is Simplistic populist views; trade per se is often at the bottom of the official preferences list “Don’t ever put fish on your fruit salad” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3lF8j9IHs&list=PL_x8a0z7Y1m7hQW9zBGIyzUv3SZ2NZ-X3&index=1 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3lF8j9IHs&list=PL_x8a0z7Y1m7hQW9zBGIyzUv3SZ2NZ-X3&index=1] How to counter the Trump shock to free trade “The third pole should start with the European Union and signatories of the CPTPP – a free trade agreement involving 11 countries – which together account for more than 30 per cent of world GDP and close to 50 per cent of voting weight in the International Monetary Fund. This group could then be expanded with countries such as South Korea, Brazil and South Africa. To make this work, Europe needs to accelerate its move towards security independence from the US. Some sort of shock, like the US pulling out of NATO, might be a trigger.” https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2026-06/how-counter-trump-shock-free-trade?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_campaign=twt-jun26-creon&utm_content=twt-jun26-creon-content [https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2026-06/how-counter-trump-shock-free-trade?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_campaign=twt-jun26-creon&utm_content=twt-jun26-creon-content]

17. juni 2026 - 6 s
episode The CPTPP Podcast - 19: The CPTPP Can Avoid One Step Back cover

The CPTPP Podcast - 19: The CPTPP Can Avoid One Step Back

Just some written links below; voice back next week. From earlier in June… The Day in Trade: New Trump tariffs announced, EU and CPTPP prepare anti-tariff alliance and customs intermediary standard released https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/the-day-in-trade-new-trump-tariffs-announced-eu-and-cptpp-prepare-anti-tariff-alliance-and-customs-intermediary-standard-released/ [https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/the-day-in-trade-new-trump-tariffs-announced-eu-and-cptpp-prepare-anti-tariff-alliance-and-customs-intermediary-standard-released/] But #1 - Like the CPTPP after the U.S. exit from TPP, the next phase of regional security may be shaped not only by U.S. design, but by what U.S. allies and partners build when Washington moves one step back. https://thediplomat.com/2026/06/what-shangri-la-2026-revealed-about-the-future-regional-order/ [https://thediplomat.com/2026/06/what-shangri-la-2026-revealed-about-the-future-regional-order/] But #2 - (Good link re current and potential future CPTPP members) https://x.com/Montaldo_Pablo/status/2062193169010217421 [https://x.com/Montaldo_Pablo/status/2062193169010217421] Upcoming new members… Costa Rica and CPTPP. What’s happened and what’s next? https://www.canninghouse.org/canning-insights/costa-rica-and-cptpp-whats-happened-and-whats-next [https://www.canninghouse.org/canning-insights/costa-rica-and-cptpp-whats-happened-and-whats-next] …and ones that are hoping to be one: Argentina formalized its intention to join the CPTPP, the Pacific mega-trade bloc Foreign Minister Pablo Quirno delivered a formal note in Paris to New Zealand's Trade Minister, Todd McClay, requesting Argentina's entry into the CPTPP. The government seeks to accelerate its trade liberalization strategy and move closer to an agreement that brings together economies from Asia, Oceania, and the Americas. According to the CPTPP procedure, interested countries must formally notify New Zealand, which acts as the treaty's depositary. The CPTPP Commission then decides whether to open the accession process and, if so, forms a working group to negotiate the terms of accession. Although full accession may require years of negotiation, the decision signals a complete shift in Argentina's trade policy. The country has not yet joined the CPTPP, but it has formalized its willingness to participate in one of the agreements that govern much of Pacific trade. https://www.diariovoces.com.ar/internacionales/argentina-formalizo-su-intencion-de-ingresar-al-cptpp-el-megabloque-comercial-del-pacifico/ [https://www.diariovoces.com.ar/internacionales/argentina-formalizo-su-intencion-de-ingresar-al-cptpp-el-megabloque-comercial-del-pacifico/] But the real upcoming CPTPP focus surely still could be China (and/or Taiwan): Japan could also be more forward-looking on China’s interest in joining the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), encouraging China to undertake the economic reforms needed to meet CPTPP standards on labour rights, environmental protection, digital trade and state-owned enterprises. This would help both China and Taiwan join the CPTPP—facilitating a resolution of the Taiwan question through dialogue rather than military coercion. https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/06/03/japan-cant-hedge-against-trump-without-stabilising-relations-with-china/ [https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/06/03/japan-cant-hedge-against-trump-without-stabilising-relations-with-china/] Trade and related future focus much more than industrial goods etc. Upcoming #1…Peru investment chat at 1400 hours London time on 9th June will be interesting https://www.canninghouse.org/events/election-analysis-webinar-peru [https://www.canninghouse.org/events/election-analysis-webinar-peru] Upcoming #2 - To discuss trade and trade imbalances at the G7 meeting June 15th 17th Trade is never simple but important not to be believe in mercantilism

8. juni 2026 - 6 s
episode The CPTPP Podcast: Podcast 17 - CPTPP is ‘More Than Just Exporting’ cover

The CPTPP Podcast: Podcast 17 - CPTPP is ‘More Than Just Exporting’

Show notes below: APEC and CPTPP matters… It was revealed on the 16th May that China, the chair of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Trade Ministers' Meeting to be held in Suzhou, China on the 22nd and 23rd, is planning to host events related to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). China is inviting member countries without their consent, even though they are not CPTPP members. From ASEAN talking about the RCEP and the CPTPP commonsense in working together more… Cambodia calls for rules-based multilateral trading system in China meet Cambodia Friday underscored the importance of strengthening the rules-based multilateral trading system during extensive discussions with members of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) and the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), in Suzhou city, Jiangsu province, People’s Republic of China. https://khmertimeskh.com/501904259/kingdom-calls-for-rules-based-multilateral-trading-system-in-china-meet/ [https://khmertimeskh.com/501904259/kingdom-calls-for-rules-based-multilateral-trading-system-in-china-meet/] But interesting to read: Interesting East Asia Forum article just out: https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/26/a-middle-power-agenda-for-the-global-trading-system/ [https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/26/a-middle-power-agenda-for-the-global-trading-system/] And learn more about the CPTPP which is ‘More Than Just Exporting’ https://canadapr.vn/dinh-cu-canada-dien-dau-tu/cptpp-canada [https://canadapr.vn/dinh-cu-canada-dien-dau-tu/cptpp-canada] Elsewhere… Japan-Korea Business Leaders Conference urges South Korea to join the TPP; also proposes simplifying immigration procedures. In 2021, the Moon Jae-in administration in South Korea announced it was considering joining the CPTPP. However, due to domestic opposition and other factors, a formal application has not yet been submitted. https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUA206ZE0Q6A520C2000000/ [https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUA206ZE0Q6A520C2000000/] Philippines eyes Japan endorsement for CPTPP bid during Marcos visit The Philippines is looking to secure an endorsement from Japan to support its bid to become a member of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) free trade agreement (FTA) during President Marcos’ upcoming state visit to Tokyo. If the Philippines manages to become a CPTPP member, this would provide unprecedented market access for the country’s exports to the bloc’s members, including Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, and the United Kingdom (UK). https://mb.com.ph/2026/05/21/philippines-eyes-japan-endorsement-for-cptpp-bid-during-marcos-visit [https://mb.com.ph/2026/05/21/philippines-eyes-japan-endorsement-for-cptpp-bid-during-marcos-visit] The Indonesian Ministry of Trade support from members of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) and the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) And currently, Indonesia is also continuing discussions with CPTPP member countries. "Indonesia has also received support from several members for the formation of an Accession Working Group for Indonesia," he concluded. https://sinpo.id/detail/121020/ri-tekankan-pentingnya-dukungan-rcep-cptpp-untuk-jaga-stabilitas-ekonomi-kawasan [https://sinpo.id/detail/121020/ri-tekankan-pentingnya-dukungan-rcep-cptpp-untuk-jaga-stabilitas-ekonomi-kawasan] As for Uruguay, some angst… Certain parts of the Uruguay trade union movement cautious about joining the CPTPP https://www.agesor.com.uy/noticia.php?id=84675 [https://www.agesor.com.uy/noticia.php?id=84675] …but also some further growth hopes: Orsi's government supports Argentina's bid to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership What four years ago appeared to be an irreconcilable internal front in Mercosur has now become a card in favor of the government of Yamandú Orsi as it moves forward with joining the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). Uruguay had already received the backing of Argentine Foreign Minister Pablo Quirno at the end of last year for having made concrete progress toward joining the CPTPP. “Today the world demands agility in trade matters. In this context, Uruguay’s decision to promote its accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership is a strong expression of this trend ,” said Javier Milei’s minister to his Mercosur counterparts. The Uruguayan government sees Argentina as a tangible demonstration that Uruguay's eventual entry into the CPTPP will not come at the expense of a strained Mercosur , and therefore they are confident that their application for membership can benefit the country in its quest to secure definitive membership. https://www.larepublica.co/globoeconomia/gobierno-de-orsi-respalda-a-argentina-para-que-solicite-su-ingreso-al-acuerdo-transpacifico-4395372?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1779204070 [https://www.larepublica.co/globoeconomia/gobierno-de-orsi-respalda-a-argentina-para-que-solicite-su-ingreso-al-acuerdo-transpacifico-4395372?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1779204070]

26. mai 2026 - 11 min
episode The CPTPP Podcast - 16: Dull Donald but Opportunist APEC? cover

The CPTPP Podcast - 16: Dull Donald but Opportunist APEC?

Podcast show notes and links are below. Thanks for listening! The G2 meetings was interesting! Meanwhile… China, a non-member of the TPP, is planning related events and inviting various countries without their consent, raising concerns about its intentions. China, the chair of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Trade Ministers' Meeting to be held in Suzhou, China on the 22nd and 23rd, is planning to host events related to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). Amidst the United States' shift towards protectionism, the CPTPP is gaining prominence as a multilateral framework that will achieve a high level of trade liberalization. China is likely seeking to find a way to join the CPTPP and expand its influence within the multilateral trading system in the region. https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2026051600118&g=eco [https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2026051600118&g=eco] Remember despite many similar APEC and CPTPP members (Japan, Australia, Canada, Vietnam, Mexico, New Zealand, Chile, Peru + more)… …one is loose and one is more legally free trade + more binding - which is why the US bailed from the latter (but names like the UK joined). China interesting! And thinking again more globally about the CPTPP, two recent great East Asia Forum articles: CPTPP–EU cooperation can set the pace for global trade Outside these sensitive areas, CPTPP–EU rules and cooperation mechanisms can evolve and spread through constructive institutional competition with other regional frameworks, CPTPP accession and issue-specific plurilateral arrangements within the WTO. The inaugural CPTPP–ASEAN Trade and Investment Dialogue, launched in November 2025 alongside the CPTPP–EU dialogue, offers one example for how linkages can be gradually built to widen workable rules through multiple, open pathways. To preserve speed, CPTPP-EU cooperation should also use soft-law instruments such as MoUs, action plans and joint principles where appropriate, rather than relying only on legally binding agreements that may require lengthy domestic ratification. CPTPP–EU cooperation alone cannot save the trading order. But countries that value openness and multilateralism can still lead the formation of next-generation trade rules. To defend the WTO, its supporters can no longer rely on the WTO alone. https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/16/cptpp-eu-cooperation-can-set-the-pace-for-global-trade/ [https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/16/cptpp-eu-cooperation-can-set-the-pace-for-global-trade/] Middle powers should look to East Asia https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/17/middle-powers-should-look-to-east-asia/ [https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/17/middle-powers-should-look-to-east-asia/] Yes, am looking forward to: Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Trade Ministers' Meeting to be held in Suzhou, China on the 22nd and 23rd May meeting Not that there is not plenty of matters to talk about just amongst APEC member but also EU/China discussions: A sinking ship? Why the EU and China could be heading for a trade war Clashes at a conference in Chinese capital reflect wider tensions that threaten to descend into an economic conflict “Europe needs the Chinese market to help its flagging economy and secure key inputs, and China needs the EU market even more than ever, as its home market flatlines and its access to the US market shrinks. “Neither can fight on two fronts at once. And as [Chinese strategist] Sun Tzu famously said, the smartest way to win a victory is without having to fight. China knows it has time on its side.” https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3353867/sinking-ship-why-eu-and-china-could-be-heading-trade-war?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage [https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3353867/sinking-ship-why-eu-and-china-could-be-heading-trade-war?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage] As for another (more likely re a 2026 announcement akin to Costa Rica?) Uruguay is making progress towards joining the CPTPP with the first meeting of the working group "We had a series of bilateral meetings at the senior official level with all member countries plus a plenary presentation in which Uruguay made an initial presentation of the reasons for its interest in joining the CPTPP," explained Deputy Foreign Minister Valeria Csukasi, who participated in the meeting held in London, to the EFE news agency. https://www.infobae.com/america/agencias/2026/05/13/uruguay-avanza-en-su-adhesion-al-cptpp-con-la-primera-reunion-del-grupo-de-trabajo/ [https://www.infobae.com/america/agencias/2026/05/13/uruguay-avanza-en-su-adhesion-al-cptpp-con-la-primera-reunion-del-grupo-de-trabajo/] Uruguay accelerates its accession to the CPTPP and assures that “there are no doubts” about compliance with the commitments For the Uruguayan government, joining the CPTPP represents a strategic opportunity to diversify markets and deepen the country's international integration, especially towards the Asia-Pacific region. https://www.comexlatam.com/uruguay-acelera-su-adhesion-al-cptpp-y-asegura-que-no-hay-dudas-sobre-el-cumplimiento-de-los-compromisos/ [https://www.comexlatam.com/uruguay-acelera-su-adhesion-al-cptpp-y-asegura-que-no-hay-dudas-sobre-el-cumplimiento-de-los-compromisos/] And finally… Will South Korea move towards the TPP? This will be a crucial test after the unified local elections. In response, the 12 countries participating in the CPTPP recently reached a broad agreement on Costa Rica's accession. Negotiations with Uruguay are also nearing completion, while Indonesia, the Philippines, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are awaiting the start of negotiations. https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQODK050T80V00C26A5000000/?n_cid=dsapp_share_android [https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQODK050T80V00C26A5000000/?n_cid=dsapp_share_android] Donald, by contrast, where art though (and the broader US) with regards to freer trade and hence the CPTPP and related?! Yes, am looking forward to: Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Trade Ministers' Meeting to be held in Suzhou, China on the 22nd and 23rd May meeting

18. mai 2026 - 9 min
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