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Office Hours for Practice Owners is the go-to podcast for healthcare practice owners who want to start, grow, protect, and eventually exit their businesses with more clarity and confidence. Hosted by attorney and healthcare business advisor Justin Marti, the show breaks down the legal and strategic issues that matter most to practice owners — from ownership, compliance, and contracts to scaling, buying, selling, and structuring a practice for long-term success. If you want practical insights that make law simple and help you make smarter business decisions, listen to Office Hours for Practice Owners.

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Portada del episodio Inside the Med Spa Roll-Up: How Cosmetic Physician Partners Built a Founder-Owned Platform Without Private Equity

Inside the Med Spa Roll-Up: How Cosmetic Physician Partners Built a Founder-Owned Platform Without Private Equity

In this episode of Office Hours for Practice Owners, host Justin Marti of Marti Law Group sits down with Daniel Schacter, CEO of Cosmetic Physician Partners (CPP), and Sean Walsh, VP of Partnerships, to unpack what actually happens when a med spa owner partners with a platform. Daniel, an Oxford MBA who spent his early career at Deloitte and McKinsey before founding multiple companies valued at over half a billion dollars, built CPP with a clear vision: scale a provider-led organization that lets practice owners retain control, unlike most private equity-backed platforms in medical aesthetics. Sean, also an Oxford MBA and former Boston Consulting Group consultant, joined Daniel in 2022 and has since become a household name in the industry, working directly with physician-owners to enter mutually successful partnerships with CPP. Together, they share the origin story of a platform now operating 75+ locations with no private equity dollars on its cap table, and walk through the realities of multiples, cultural fit, and the advisor decisions that make or break a deal. If you're a practice owner thinking about a transaction in the next year or the next five, this episode is a practical map of what to look for, what to avoid, and what really drives valuation. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE * Why the cheapest legal bill in an M&A deal often comes from the most experienced lawyer, and how owners get burned by hiring family friends to negotiate transactions * The real multiple ranges for single-clinic and multi-site med spas in 2026, and the specific factors that move you up or down the band * How CPP screens partners using a rubric where financial performance is the fourth item on the list, and what comes first * The unfair advantages that command premium valuations (hint: it's never price) * Why opening a second location to chase a higher multiple often destroys value instead of creating it * What "partner-owned" actually means when a platform has no private equity and no preferred shares in the stack [00:00] Intro [01:55] The Montreal building, a struggling dermatologist, and the accidental founding of CPP [06:42] What "partner-owned" actually means, and why there's no PE on the cap table [09:48] The No Asshole Policy and why every CPP doctor has a veto on new partners [11:01] The rubric: why financials are the fourth thing CPP evaluates, not the first [13:11] Staff turnover as the hidden culture metric every buyer reads [18:20] Buy-out vs. buy-in: the mindset shift owners get wrong [25:51] The "education tax", why hiring the wrong lawyer is the most expensive mistake in a deal [30:30] Multiples decoded: the 5x–8x range for single clinics and what moves the needle [33:04] Why a second location can earn a negative multiple [37:05] What to look for in a partner when every good offer lands in the same range RESOURCES MENTIONED * Cosmetic Physician Partners (CPP): https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com [https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com] * Victoria Park Medispa (CPP's Canadian sister brand): https://vicpark.com [https://vicpark.com] * McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com [https://www.mckinsey.com] * Boston Consulting Group (BCG): https://www.bcg.com [https://www.bcg.com] * University of Oxford: https://www.ox.ac.uk [https://www.ox.ac.uk] * Skytale Insights Podcast (Skytale Group): https://skytalegroup.com/podcast/ [https://skytalegroup.com/podcast/] * American Med Spa Association (AmSpa) — Medical Spa Show: https://www.medicalspashow.com [https://www.medicalspashow.com] CONNECT WITH DANIEL SCHACTER Daniel Schacter is the CEO of Cosmetic Physician Partners. After earning his MBA from Oxford, Daniel spent years consulting at McKinsey and Deloitte before moving into COO and CEO roles. He founded CPP with the vision of scaling a provider-led organization that lets clinicians retain control, a deliberate alternative to private equity-backed platforms in medical aesthetics. CPP has since scaled to 75+ locations and counting. * Website: https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com [https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-schacter-20782221/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-schacter-20782221/] * Email (Partnerships): partnerships@cppclinics.com [partnerships@cppclinics.com] CONNECT WITH SEAN WALSH Sean Walsh is VP of Partnerships at Cosmetic Physician Partners. An Oxford MBA grad, Sean spent time in investment banking and consulting at Boston Consulting Group before joining Daniel to accelerate CPP's growth in 2022. He has since become a trusted voice in medical aesthetics, working directly with physician-owners to structure mutually successful partnerships with CPP. * Website: https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com [https://cosmeticphysicianpartners.com] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sfwalsh/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sfwalsh/] * Email (Partnerships): partnerships@cppclinics.com [partnerships@cppclinics.com] CONNECT WITH JUSTIN MARTI * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti [https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti] * Email: justin@martilawgroup.com [justin@martilawgroup.com] * Website: https://martilawgroup.com [https://martilawgroup.com]

19 de may de 2026 - 42 min
Portada del episodio Buying In: How to Structure Associate Ownership Without Wrecking the Practice

Buying In: How to Structure Associate Ownership Without Wrecking the Practice

In this episode of Office Hours, host Justin Marti of Marti Law Group sits down with Jessica Nunn, founder of Maven Financial Partners, for a candid conversation on one of the most consequential decisions a healthcare practice owner will make: when and how to bring an associate into ownership. Jessica, a CPA-turned-fractional CFO whose firm advises dental, medical aesthetics, plastic surgery, concierge, and functional medicine practices, breaks down the full lifecycle of an associate — from first-year hire to equity partner. Together, Justin and Jessica unpack compensation models, valuation timing, financing structures, and the legal and financial guardrails every owner needs before “putting a ring on it.” If you’ve ever wondered whether to stay the king of your kingdom or build a partner-driven practice, this episode lays out the trade-offs in plain English. WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE 1. How to structure associate compensation at each stage, from daily minimums and flat salaries for new hires to production-based models for established providers 2. Why owners should wait at least 18 months before offering equity, and the warning signs that an associate is ready (or not) to become a partner 3. The right way to value a practice at the moment of buy-in, and why “sweat equity” arguments from associates usually don’t hold up 4. How to choose between bank financing and a seller note when an associate buys in, and the risks of becoming your partner’s banker 5. What needs to be papered up before the deal closes, repurchase rights, fiduciary duties, non-competes, distribution policies, and division of operational duties 6. Why locking yourself into a rigid 5- or 10-year succession plan can backfire, and how to build flexibility into your exit strategy [00:00] Intro [02:55] The two associate archetypes every practice owner needs to recognize [04:35] Compensation that evolves: from daily minimums to production-based pay [07:14] “Be the king” vs. building a partner-driven practice [08:35] Why 18 months of working together comes before any equity conversation [10:46] Bank financing vs. seller notes, and why you don’t want to be your partner’s banker [12:38] Papering for the worst-case: repurchases, clawbacks, and the partnership “prenup” [14:23] The danger of mapping out the rest of your life in legal documents [18:18] Why you should value the practice the day of the buy-in, not the day the associate started [21:18] Why partner deals can be harder than third-party M&A [22:02] Cleaning up the books before a partner buys in [23:40] Dividing duties so ownership doesn’t quietly turn into resentment RESOURCES MENTIONED 1. Maven Financial Partners — https://www.mavenfp.com [https://www.mavenfp.com] 2. Maven Financial Partners on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/mavenfinancial/ [https://www.instagram.com/mavenfinancial/] CONNECT WITH JESSICA NUNN 1. Website: https://www.mavenfp.com [https://www.mavenfp.com] 2. Bio: https://www.mavenfp.com/team/jessica-nunn [https://www.mavenfp.com/team/jessica-nunn] 3. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-nunn-cpa-1474a417/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-nunn-cpa-1474a417/] 4. Email: jessica.nunn@mavenfp.com [jessica.nunn@mavenfp.com] 5. Phone: 972-999-6947 6. Instagram (Maven): https://www.instagram.com/mavenfinancial/ [https://www.instagram.com/mavenfinancial/] CONNECT WITH JUSTIN MARTI 1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti [https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti] 2. Email: justin@martilawgroup.com [justin@martilawgroup.com] Website: https://martilawgroup.com [https://martilawgroup.com]

12 de may de 2026 - 26 min
Portada del episodio Banking Built for Doctors: How Panacea Financial Is Changing the Way Dentists and Physicians Borrow, Build, and Grow

Banking Built for Doctors: How Panacea Financial Is Changing the Way Dentists and Physicians Borrow, Build, and Grow

Justin Marti of Marti Law Group sits down with Brandon Finazzo, Head of Practice Solutions at Panacea Financial, for a candid conversation about what it actually takes to finance a healthcare practice in today's market. Panacea was founded by two practicing physicians who were turned away by traditional banks during their residency — and built something better. Brandon brings over a decade of healthcare lending experience from Wells Fargo, Citibank, and US Bank, and now helps dentists, physicians, and veterinarians navigate everything from their first startup loan to multi-location growth. This episode cuts through the noise on construction costs, interest rates, student debt, and the costly mistakes doctors make before they ever open their doors. What You'll Learn in This Episode * Why timing matters more than most doctors realize — and what financial habits to build before you're ready to own * The unique lending products Panacea offers that most traditional banks won't touch, including an unsecured partner buy-in loan * What headwinds are hitting healthcare practice financing right now — and how to plan around rising construction costs and elevated interest rates * The hidden dangers of stacking an equipment loan on top of a startup loan, and why it can lead to bankruptcy * How to build the right advisory team from day one and why industry-specific professionals make or break a deal [00:00] Intro [01:59] How Panacea Financial Was Founded — and Why Two Doctors Built a Bank [04:32] Unique Lending Products: Partner Buy-In Loans and Conventional Construction Financing [06:30] The One-Stop-Shop Vision: From Residency to Multi-Location Ownership [08:24] What Every Growing Doctor Needs to Hear From Their Banker Before Loan #2 [10:21] Current Market Headwinds: Construction Costs, Interest Rates, and Reality Checks [13:36] How to Prepare Financially Before You Ever Apply for a Practice Loan [18:50] The Equipment Loan Trap That's Putting New Practices in Financial Crisis [22:03] What the Startup Loan Process Actually Looks Like from Application to Open Doors [25:44] Why Industry-Specific Teams Change Everything (And a Contractor Story That Proves It) [28:21] How to Connect with Panacea Financial and Find the Right Representative Resources Mentioned * Panacea Practice Solutions (practice loans for dentists, physicians & vets) — https://panaceafinancial.com/all/panacea-practice-solutions/panaceafinancial.com/all/panacea-practice-solutions [https://panaceafinancial.com/all/panacea-practice-solutions/] * American Dental Association (ADA) — https://www.ada.orgada.org [https://www.ada.org] * Ohio State Medical Association (OSMA) — https://osma.orgosma.org [https://osma.org] Connect with Brandon Finazzo * Website: panaceafinancial.com [http://panaceafinancial.com] * Email: (reach out via the website inquiry form for the fastest response) * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-finazzo/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-finazzo/] Connect with Justin Marti * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmartihttps://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti [https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti] * Email: justin@martilawgroup.com * Website: martilawgroup.com

5 de may de 2026 - 30 min
Portada del episodio Signals vs. Noise: What's Actually Happening in the DSO Market 2026 with Bill Neumann

Signals vs. Noise: What's Actually Happening in the DSO Market 2026 with Bill Neumann

Justin Marti of Marti Law Group sits down with Bill Neumann, co-founder and CEO of Group Dentistry Now, DSO consultant, and a two-decade veteran of the dental industry. They have a candid conversation on what's actually driving the dental market right now. Bill has been at the forefront of DSO media and intelligence since the early days: he co-founded Efficiency in Group Practice, the first print publication dedicated to DSOs, and later launched Dental Sales Pro Connect, the first app built for dental product literature and information. Today, Group Dentistry Now is the number one destination for DSO news, M&A data, and emerging trends. From the feeding frenzy of 2020–2021 to today's more disciplined deal environment, Bill breaks down how DSOs are evolving, where AI is making real operational impact, and why the dentist-entrepreneur may be the most exciting story in dentistry today. If you're a practice owner, group operator, or advisor trying to cut through the noise, this episode delivers the signal. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE * Why the DSO M&A market looks nothing like 2021, and what today's deals actually look like in terms of structure, diligence, and terms * How AI is already reshaping front-desk operations and revenue cycle management, and how to evaluate which solutions are worth your attention * Why private equity may not be the right capital partner for dentistry, and what alternative funding structures are gaining traction * The rise of the dentist-entrepreneur, and how emerging group models are creating new pathways to scale that don't require a DSO partnership * What Bill expects in the next 12–24 months, including major consolidation plays and which DSOs are quietly positioned to make big moves [00:00] Intro [01:54] Who is Bill Neumann and why Group Dentistry Now matters [03:24] How the DSO space evolved, from "undercover" to information overload [08:09] AI in dentistry: what's actually here vs. what's still hype [10:15] Front desk AI and the 30% missed call problem [14:37] The hangover from the 2020–2021 acquisition frenzy [17:34] The dentist-entrepreneur opportunity: why emerging groups are outperforming [22:55] Why private equity may not fit dentistry's timeline — and what else is working [24:21] Park Dental Partners goes public: what it means for DSO transparency [30:19] Crystal ball: what the next 24 months hold for deals, consolidation, and growth RESOURCES MENTIONED * Group Dentistry Now: groupdentistrynow.com [http://groupdentistrynow.com] * Dental Innovation Alliance (DIA:Venture capital firm funding early-stage dental technology companies; https://www.dialliance.com [https://www.dialliance.com] * Park Dental Partners: DSO based in Minnesota/Wisconsin; completed a $20M IPO on Nasdaq (ticker: PARK) in December 2025 https://www.parkdentalpartners.comhttps://www.parkdentalpartners.com [https://www.parkdentalpartners.com] * Elite Dental Partners: DSO referenced for its associate earn-in partnership model ("Elite Advantage") https://www.elitedentalpartners.comhttps://www.elitedentalpartners.com [https://www.elitedentalpartners.com] * Pearl: Dental diagnostic AI platform (FDA-cleared); one of the first AI tools adopted at scale in DSOs https://www.hellopearl.comhttps://www.hellopearl.com [https://www.hellopearl.com] * Overjet: FDA-cleared dental AI for caries detection and bone level quantification https://www.overjet.comhttps://www.overjet.com [https://www.overjet.com] * VideaHealth: Dental diagnostic AI platform; FDA-cleared for caries detection https://www.videa.aihttps://www.videa.ai [https://www.videa.ai] CONNECT WITH BILL NEUMANN * Website: groupdentistrynow.com [http://groupdentistrynow.com] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dentalsalespro/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dentalsalespro/] CONNECT WITH JUSTIN MARTI * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmartihttps://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti [https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinmarti] * Email: justin@martilawgroup.com [justin@martilawgroup.com] Website: martilawgroup.com [http://martilawgroup.com]

28 de abr de 2026 - 36 min
Portada del episodio Why Healthcare Practices Need a Real Estate Specialist with Stephanie Principe

Why Healthcare Practices Need a Real Estate Specialist with Stephanie Principe

In this episode of Office Hours, Justin Marti sits down with Stephanie Principe of Practice Real Estate Group to discuss how healthcare providers can make smarter real estate decisions when starting, growing, or expanding a practice. Stephanie specializes in advising healthcare professionals who are launching their own practices and guiding established providers as they grow, expand, or open additional locations. Together, they break down how market data, lease strategy, tenant improvement negotiations, and the right advisor team can materially impact a practice’s success. For dentists, veterinarians, optometrists, dermatologists, and other healthcare founders, this episode offers a practical look at how to approach real estate with more clarity, confidence, and strategy. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: * How healthcare founders can use demographic and competitive data to make better location decisions * Why lease term length, tenant improvement allowances, and free-rent periods matter more than most providers realize * The startup mistakes that can create unnecessary cash strain early in a practice’s growth * How to build the right advisor team around a transaction so that legal, construction, equipment, and real estate decisions align * What can quietly derail a deal late in the process and how to avoid it [00:00] Intro [00:41] Stephanie Principe’s background [03:58] The healthcare specialities Practice Real Estate Group supports [05:22] The data that helps Doctors and Practice Owners make strategic decisions [08:29] How first-time owners should think about the search process [10:42] Why every startup needs this special advisor team around transactions [12:00] Planning buildout, equipment, and space utilization for profitability [14:18] Common deal killers in healthcare real estate transactions [17:04] How to leverage Tenant improvement allowances [19:10] Why healthcare providers need a real estate specialist, not a generalist Connect with Stephanie Principe: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-principe-465b44254/ * Website: https://practicerealestategroup.com/bio/stephanie-principe/ Connect with Justin Marti: * LinkedIn: Justin Marti * Email: justin@martilawgroup.com * Website: martilawgroup.com

21 de abr de 2026 - 22 min
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