Holding Space with Dr. Barker

Toxic Perseverance: How Unhealed Trauma Drives Our Lives | Michael Scarano

In this episode of Holding Space, Dr. Christopher Barker talks with Dr. Michael Scarano—former physical therapy assistant, chiropractor, and medical doctor—about his powerful concept of “toxic perseverance.” Drawing on decades in healthcare, his own trauma history, and the loss of a close friend to suicide, Dr. Scarano explains how unprocessed trauma and the subconscious mind can quietly drive perfectionism, overworking, imposter syndrome, shame, and chronic emotional pain. Together, they explore why so many “high-functioning” people are suffering underneath their success, how complex trauma, ADHD, and lifelong self-criticism can shape identity, and why men in particular struggle to face vulnerability. Dr. Scarano shares how his own breaking point led to a deep self-audit, new language for understanding his patterns, and his upcoming book and TEDx talk on toxic perseverance. Dr. Barker adds a psychodynamic and attachment-informed lens, highlighting the role of the subconscious, the mind–body connection, and what therapists can do to humanize the therapy room and build safer, more authentic relationships with clients. This conversation is for anyone wondering why they “push through” at all costs, feel stuck in shame and overdrive, or sense that old trauma is still running the show. It’s especially relevant for clinicians, coaches, and helpers who want a more nuanced, human-centered way of thinking about trauma, mental health, and resilience. Learn more about Dr. Michael Scarano: TEDx talk: https://youtu.be/m_OO6sJ7-UM [https://youtu.be/m_OO6sJ7-UM] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-scarano-m-d-087b19139/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-scarano-m-d-087b19139/] Website: https://www.michaelscaranollc.com/ [https://www.michaelscaranollc.com/] Learn more about Dr. Christopher Barker and Holding Space: Website: https://www.drchristopherbarker.com [https://www.drchristopherbarker.com] Interested in being a guest? Email: info@drchristopherbarker.com [info@drchristopherbarker.com]

Relational Time, Complex Trauma, and the Fear of What Comes Next

In this episode of Holding Space, Dr. Christopher Barker explores how complex trauma shapes the way we experience uncertainty in relationships. Introducing the concept of “relational time,” he explains why small moments—like a delayed text or a shift in tone—can quickly feel like rejection, loss, or danger. Through a guided exercise, listeners learn how the nervous system predicts outcomes based on past experiences and how healing begins by staying present in moments that feel uncertain instead of rushing to conclusions. This episode is a powerful resource for anyone interested in mental health, mental health awareness, trauma healing, attachment theory, anxiety, overthinking, emotional regulation, and relationship patterns. If you’ve ever felt your mind jump to the worst-case scenario, this conversation will help you understand why—and how to begin changing that pattern. Learn more about Dr. Christopher Barker: https://www.drchristopherbarker.com [https://www.drchristopherbarker.com] Interested in being a guest? Email: info@drchristopherbarker.com [info@drchristopherbarker.com]

Systems Thinking in Therapy: A Graduate Student's Journey with Joanna Martin | Holding Space Podcast

Join Dr. Christopher Barker in conversation with Joanna Martin, MFT graduate student, executive functioning coach, and mental health content creator from Southern California. Joanna shares her transformative experience volunteering at the Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference, where she connected with industry leaders like Lynn Lyons, Terry Real, and Elliott Connie. Discover how systems thinking revolutionizes therapy practice, the reality of being a master's-level clinician, and practical insights on building an online community of therapists and students. Perfect for aspiring therapists, current grad students, mental health professionals, and anyone interested in relational work and family systems therapy. Learn about navigating clinical training, the power of affirmations in therapy, and how thinking systemically changes everything from client work to watching TV shows. 🎯 WANT DR. BARKER AS A GUEST SPEAKER OR INTERESTED IN BEING A GUEST? Visit: drchristopherbarker.com [http://drchristopherbarker.com] Email: info@drchristopherbarker.com [info@drchristopherbarker.com] Follow Our Guest Joanne Martin on TIK & Insta: @lovingherbecoming

Healing After Trauma: Mental Health & Domestic Violence Awareness

In this powerful episode, Dr. Christopher Barker explores what healing after trauma really looks like, especially for survivors of domestic violence during Mental Health Month. Listeners will learn how prolonged relational danger reshapes the nervous system, why trauma-informed care and trauma-focused mental health support are essential, and how tools like Victims Voice can help survivors safely document abuse and be heard. This conversation raises domestic violence awareness, reduces stigma around mental health, and offers validation, education, and hope for survivors, loved ones, and professionals committed to trauma-informed healing. For speaking engagements, workshops, or to invite Dr. Barker as a guest speaker—or if you would like to be a guest on our show—reach out at: info@drchristopherbarker.com [info@drchristopherbarker.com] Learn more at: www.drchristopherbarker.com [http://www.drchristopherbarker.com]

Healing From Toxic Workplaces & Emotional Abuse: with Trauma Counselor Aretha Kruger

In this episode of Holding Space, Dr. Christopher Barker talks with trauma counselor and toxic workplace specialist Aretha Kruger, founder of Me But Better Counseling in South Africa. Aretha shares how emotional and psychological abuse at work often spills into our home lives, why you’re not “crazy” for feeling confused or doubting yourself, and how to spot the red flags of a toxic culture. She offers practical tools like documentation (“cover your ass files”), boundary-setting, and quick WhatsApp voice-note support to help you protect your mental health and start rebuilding self-trust. Guest links: * Website: www.mebutbettercounseling.co.za [http://www.mebutbettercounseling.co.za] * Free guide: 5 Signs You’re Being Emotionally Manipulated – https://arethacounselor.gumroad.com/l/btjqx [https://arethacounselor.gumroad.com/l/btjqx] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aretha-kruger-5a47b03ab [https://www.linkedin.com/in/aretha-kruger-5a47b03ab] * Email: aretha@mebutbettercounseling.co.za [aretha@mebutbettercounseling.co.za]