Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast

The ROI of AI: Learnings from Customer Zero

Workday’s deployment of Evisort AI to manage 100,000 contracts yielded such strong results, they bought the company. Now, as “Customer Zero” for contract AI innovation, Workday is helping shape the future of legal technology.  In this "special edition” of “Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast,” host Hal Marcus sits down with Greg Bennett and Kristi Johnson of Workday Global Legal Services to glean hard-won lessons from their multi-year experience deploying contract AI to better support M&A analysis, revenue operations, and more. We also discuss their aspirations for the future of in-house legal services with an increasingly AI-powered workforce. What You’ll Learn: * Why having a program manager is important for a successful AI adoption. * Why synchronizing contract data with CRM systems fosters operational efficiency. * The importance of balancing AI and human expertise in contract analysis. * How to amplify contract intelligence beyond the legal team.  * How to leverage custom AI models to extract valuable insights from legacy contracts. Co-host Memme Onwudiwe will be back with Hal in our next episode! Episode Resources * Greg Bennett LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-bennett-8b7865/overlay/about-this-profile/] * Kristi Johnson LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristiannjohnson/] * Workday Website [https://www.linkedin.com/company/workday/] * Hal Marcus on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/] * Evisort Website [https://www.evisort.com/] Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so [https://www.fame.so/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=masters-of-community-with-david-spinks?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=fame-client?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=b2b-breakthrough-podcast]

How to Love Contracts, with Laura Frederick

Contracts are more than just legal documents; they’re stories of trust, risk, and negotiation. But how do you master the real-world skills that law school rarely teaches? Welcome to “Meeting of the Minds – The Legal AI Podcast.” In this episode, Hal and Memme sit down with Laura Frederick, founder of How to Contract, to explore what it takes to draft, negotiate, and manage contracts in today’s tech-driven legal world. With over 25 years of experience and a fast-growing global platform, Laura brings a human, strategic lens to commercial contracting. From viral cartoons and daily LinkedIn posts to billion-dollar deals, Laura shares how clarity, empathy, and creativity can change the way legal professionals approach their craft and how AI can support (but never replace) that nuance. What You’ll Learn: * Why contracts are less about clauses and more about people * What most lawyers miss when negotiating operational terms * How Laura built a training movement with humor, cartoons, and daily content * The role AI plays in speeding up the small stuff so humans can focus on big decisions * How standard contract templates are reshaping negotiations and when to ignore them * Why junior lawyers need more than playbooks; they need context, confidence, and coaching Episode Resources * Laura Frederick LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurafredericklaw/] * How to Contract Website [https://www.linkedin.com/company/howtocontractllc/] * Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/memme/] * Hal Marcus on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/] * Evisort Website [https://www.evisort.com/] Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so [https://www.fame.so/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=masters-of-community-with-david-spinks?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=fame-client?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=b2b-breakthrough-podcast]

Nothing Changes Until It Suddenly Does: Talking Legal AI with Bjarne Tellmann

The future of legal services is fundamentally changing, and AI is the reason for it. So, if one is to thrive in this new world, everything must change. In the latest episode of "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," hosts Memme Onwudiwe and Hal Marcus welcome Bjarne Tellmann, CEO of FjordStream Advisors and an experienced General Counsel and legal consultant, to explore the transformative impact of AI on the legal profession. What You’ll Learn:  * How AI advancement is exponentially transforming legal service delivery and business models * Why the traditional billable hour model faces disruption as AI capabilities expand * The essential skills modern General Counsel need - technology literacy and business acumen * How law schools must evolve to incorporate practical skills, technology training, and business education * Why cultural intelligence is crucial for legal leaders managing global teams * The opportunities for young lawyers to reshape legal services through technology and entrepreneurship * How legal departments must balance the "partner-guardian" tension while embracing technological change This episode proves that winning the game of adapting is not just about how fast you do it, but about how well you do it.  Episode Resources * Bjarne Tellmann on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjarnetellmann/?originalSubdomain=uk] * FjordStream Advisors Website [https://www.fjordstreamadvisors.com/] * Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/memme/] * Hal Marcus on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/] * Evisort Website [https://www.evisort.com/] Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so [https://www.fame.so/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=masters-of-community-with-david-spinks?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=fame-client?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=b2b-breakthrough-podcast]

Transcending Fear & Building Community with Oyango Snell, Executive Director of CLOC

AI brings fear along with opportunity. When uncertainty reigns, how can you surpass the fear and come out stronger on the other side?  Welcome to “Meeting of Minds - The Legal AI Podcast.” In this episode, Hal and Memme sit with Oyango Snell, Executive Director of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC), to discuss his journey through the ins and outs of the legal profession and the crucial roles of legal operations and community in an increasingly AI-centric future. What You’ll Learn: * How you can evolve from regular day-to-day operations to being a strategic part of the organization.   * How LinkedIn and professional networking are a great tool for career opportunities in legal operations. * Why organizations should invest in legal operations to drive efficiency. * How to execute leadership by building a diverse and inclusive team based on competencies. * The need to build legal operation education initiatives like CLOC Academy. * How to leverage AI in the work space rather than fear its evolution. Episode Resources * Oyango Snell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/oyango-a-snell-esq-cae/overlay/about-this-profile/] * CLOC Website [https://www.linkedin.com/company/cloc-corporate-legal-operations-consortium-/] * Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/memme/] * Hal Marcus on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/] * Evisort Website [https://www.evisort.com/] Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so [https://www.fame.so/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=masters-of-community-with-david-spinks?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=fame-client?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=b2b-breakthrough-podcast]

Managing People, Legal, & AI with LaTanya Langley, CLO & CPO of Edgewell Personal Care

What does the intersection of HR, Legal, and AI look like? In this episode of "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort, a Workday company, it takes the shape of an eye-opening conversation with LaTanya Langley - Chief Legal Officer and Chief People Officer at Edgewell Personal Care.  What You’ll Learn:  * How to tap into the unique synergies of the HR-Legal intersection  * The importance of adapting to and incorporating AI into legal education * Navigating the ethical implications of AI in legal and HR functions * The skill sets you need to thrive in the coming legal world  * Why professional risks and unconventional opportunities can lead to career growth and innovation For fresh perspectives on optimizing technology and AI use in legal, building a future-ready workforce, and leading with empathy, all you need to do is listen in.  Episode Resources * LaTanya Langley on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/latanyalangley] * Edgewell Personal Care Website [https://edgewell.com/] * Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/memme/] * Hal Marcus on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/] Evisort Website [https://www.evisort.com/] Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus. Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so [https://www.fame.so/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=masters-of-community-with-david-spinks?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=fame-client?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=bcast&utm_campaign=b2b-breakthrough-podcast]