Passing The Pulpit

Kids Worship Camp: A New Model for Discipleship and Creativity with Jason Millsaps

In this episode, we sit down with Jason Millsaps, worship pastor at Bell Shoals Church, to talk about a powerful ministry idea that is helping churches rethink discipleship, creativity, and the next generation. What began as a simple burden to better equip creative kids in the church eventually became Kids Worship Camp—a hands-on ministry experience where children learn worship, songwriting, production, filmmaking, photography, stage design, and more while actively serving the church. Jason shares how the camp was built, why it has been so effective, and how churches of any size can adapt the model in their own context. Along the way, this conversation explores why many churches unintentionally limit creativity, how giving young people responsibility changes their ownership of faith, and what it looks like to build a true pipeline for future worship leaders, creatives, and servants in the local church. Jason also opens up about his journey as an endurance athlete, completing sixteen Ironman races, overcoming major back surgeries, and the spiritual lessons he learned about perseverance, calling, and keeping your eyes on the prize. Whether you are a pastor, worship leader, creative, volunteer coordinator, or someone passionate about discipleship, this episode offers practical insight and a compelling vision for investing in the next generation. If you want to keep up with Jason: * Kids Worship Camp Resource [https://www.worshiphousekids.com/products/curriculum-curr-cmd-00000329-kids-worship-camp] * Church: Bellshoals.com [http://Bellshoals.com]    * My book, “From 37 Yards to Kona” [https://a.co/d/0e2PVNI8] * Coaching/speaking website: 121tricoaching.com [http://121tricoaching.com]  I’d love to hear your thoughts on this one… Feel free to email me HERE. [mredder@oureach.com]  Join the conversation on our Instagram Channel HERE. [https://www.instagram.com/passingthepulpit] You can find SermonCentral on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sermoncentral/], Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/SermonCentral], and Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@sermoncentral9487]

What Do You Preach When Holidays Collide? | Pentecost, Memorial Day & Graduation Weekend

When Pentecost Sunday lands on Memorial Day weekend during graduation season, pastors face a unique challenge: what exactly are you supposed to preach on? Do you lean into the church calendar, address the cultural moment, honor life transitions, or try to somehow hold all of it together in one message? In this episode, Matt Redder shares five practical and pastoral ways to discern what to preach when multiple important moments converge at once. From theological priorities to congregational needs, this conversation explores how pastors can prepare sermons that are spiritually grounded, emotionally aware, and clear in focus—even on the most crowded weekends of the year. If you’ve ever wrestled with sermon direction during holiday weekends, special occasions, or culturally significant moments, this episode will help you think more clearly, pastor more faithfully, and preach with greater confidence. And if you’re in a pinch and need some fresh ideas or resources, head over to SermonCentral.com [http://SermonCentral.com] where I’ve been stockpiling them for years for times just like this. The Premium Sermon Kits [https://sermoncentral.com/premium-sermon-kits] have several options for either Memorial Day, Pentecost, or Graduation depending on which route you choose to travel.  Thanks a ton for listening, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this one… Feel free to email me HERE. [mredder@oureach.com]  Join the conversation on our Instagram Channel HERE. [https://www.instagram.com/passingthepulpit] You can find SermonCentral on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sermoncentral/], Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/SermonCentral], and Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@sermoncentral9487]

When Your Career Changes but Your Calling Doesn’t and the Future of Church Media with Luke Miller

What happens when your career changes but your calling doesn’t?  In this episode, we sit down with Luke Miller to explore his unique journey from pastoral ministry to the marketplace—and how his calling never changed, even when his job title did. From church planting in Dallas to spending over 15 years in church media, Luke shares honest insights on bi-vocational ministry, identity, and the tension between calling and compensation that many leaders quietly carry. We also dive deep into the evolving role of media in the Church—how storytelling shapes spiritual formation, why authenticity is winning over production, and what churches often get wrong when trying to stay “relevant.” And of course, we tackle the big question everyone’s asking: What does AI mean for ministry? Luke offers a grounded, thoughtful perspective on where AI helps, where it falls short, and why human connection will always be at the center of gospel work. This conversation is honest, practical, and deeply encouraging for pastors, creatives, and anyone trying to faithfully live out their calling in a rapidly changing world. Grab a friend to share this one with, you’re going to want to discuss it with someone.  Key Topics: * Calling vs. career in ministry * The rise of bivocational leadership * How media shapes message retention and impact * Authenticity vs. production in church content * AI, creativity, and the future of ministry * Why human connection still matters most * You can reach Luke HERE [ luke@twosaintsmedia.com] I’d love to hear your thoughts on this one… Feel free to email me HERE. [mredder@oureach.com]  Join the conversation on our Instagram Channel HERE. [https://www.instagram.com/passingthepulpit] You can find SermonCentral on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sermoncentral/], Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/SermonCentral], and Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@sermoncentral9487]

Preaching the Gospel or Selling It: Culture, Clickbait, and Following Christ with Jesse Jackson

In this episode, we sit down with Jesse to unpack some of the most thought-provoking—and at times controversial—stories shaping the church today. From a provocative Easter marketing campaign that sparked major backlash, to a powerful conversation about engaging culture without compromising truth, this episode doesn’t shy away from the tension leaders are facing right now. We wrestle with questions like: Has the Church started to rely too much on shock value? Is the gospel enough on its own? And what happens when cultural relevance begins to blur the line between creativity and compromise? We also dive into a fascinating interview between a young evangelist and a well-known prosperity preacher, exploring what it looks like to have honest, respectful conversations across deep theological differences. In a time where disagreement often leads to division, this conversation challenges us to recover the lost art of sitting at the table together. Finally, we explore a powerful moment between a Christian artist and a curious interviewer who asks a deeply human question: “Is there room for me?” That question opens the door to a bigger conversation about belonging, truth, and how the Church engages a searching world. This episode is honest, challenging, and deeply relevant for pastors, leaders, and anyone trying to faithfully navigate faith in today’s cultural moment. Check out the Bryce Crawford article here. [https://churchleaders.com/news/2215841-bryce-crawford-kenneth-copeland-prosperity-gospel.html] Check out the Brandon Lake article here. [https://churchleaders.com/news/2216051-christian-buddhist-brandon-lake-room-christianity.html] Check out the easter bunny article here.  [https://churchleaders.com/news/2216168-brittni-de-la-mora-action-church-playboy-logo-easter-promo.html] I’d love to hear your thoughts on this one… Feel free to email me HERE. [mredder@oureach.com]  Join the conversation on our Instagram Channel HERE. [https://www.instagram.com/passingthepulpit] You can find SermonCentral on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sermoncentral/], Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/SermonCentral], and Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@sermoncentral9487]

Lead, Let Go, Repeat: The Long Game of Developing Leaders with Jim Mullins

What does it actually look like to lead in a way that outlasts you? In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Jim Mullins to unpack a leadership decision most leaders avoid: intentionally raising up and handing off leadership to others—before you have to. After nearly two decades of ministry, Jim didn’t just talk about leadership development—he lived it. Through a years-long process, he identified, invested in, and ultimately promoted two leaders to take his place… while he stepped aside to serve under them. But this isn’t just a conversation about succession planning. It’s about the deeper work most leaders never address: * The hidden idol of significance that drives so much of our ambition * Why letting go feels like death (because, in many ways, it is) * How to build a culture where leadership actually multiplies instead of bottlenecks * The overlooked power of small, consistent investments over time * And why the healthiest leaders are thinking about replacement from day one * Jim also shares practical frameworks like Model–Assist–Watch–Leave, the importance of creating a leadership ecosystem (not just a pipeline), and why most leaders fail at the final—and most important—step: leaving. Along the way, this conversation expands beyond church leadership into a bigger vision: What if every role—no matter how unseen—actually mattered in the Kingdom of God? From spreadsheets to sermons, from gardens to boardrooms, this episode reframes what meaningful work really looks like—and how to lead in a way that reflects it. If you’re a pastor, leader, or anyone who wants their life to count for something bigger than themselves, this conversation will challenge you, stretch you, and give you a vision worth building toward. You can check out Jim’s book HERE. [https://a.co/d/01q4zSTq] I’d love to hear your thoughts on this one… Feel free to email me HERE. [mredder@oureach.com]  Join the conversation on our Instagram Channel HERE. [https://www.instagram.com/passingthepulpit] You can find SermonCentral on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sermoncentral/], Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/SermonCentral], and Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/@sermoncentral9487]