March 2026 Webinar recording: An Iranian Jew and a Palestinian in Conversation
This episode comes from a special webinar we hosted on March 26,2026, “Dialogue as a Tool of Safety: An Iranian Jew and a Palestinian in Conversation.” Kara and Eli facilitated a courageous and deeply human conversation between Iranian Jewish peace activist and writer, Daniel Bral, and Palestinian peace activist and conflict resolution expert, Hamze Awade. Together, they explored what it means to engage in difficult dialogue across divides. Through personal stories, shared communication principles, and real-time modeling of tough conversations, this gathering highlights how empathy, respect, and curiosity can create spaces of safety and understanding, without erasing pain or identity. This session marked the launch of the Translations podcast.
Chapter Breakdown:
* :00 - Introduction and welcome
* 4:39 - The worlds Daniel and Hamze come from
* 10:40 - How Daniel and Hamze came together and built a relationship
* 14:19 - Could this relationship have worked before October 7?
* 17:10 - Co-creating a Substack
* 20:19 - Examples of disagreement between Daniel and Hamze
* 29:08 - How to stay in dialogue with someone who says something harmful
* 34:31 - How to engage with people who view the conflict in a binary way
* 40:00 - The responsibility to translate our community to others and to itself
* 48:08 - Where the name of their Substack came from
* 49:34 - The line between criticism and dehumanization
* 52:51 - Navigating debates about the future configuration of Israel and Palestine
* 57:25 - Reflecting on the Iran war and the media’s relationship with Palestinians
* 1:04:27 - Lessons they’ve learned doing dialogue work
Resources:
* The Higher Ground, Substack: https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/ [https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/].
* Daniel Bral and Hamze Awawde, “Israel and Palestine Conversation Quicksand,” The Higher Ground, https://substack.com/home/post/p-170403852 [https://substack.com/home/post/p-170403852].
* Hamze Awawde, “Liberal Zionism’s PR Machine: How ‘Nuance’ Became a Language for Violence,” The Higher Ground, https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/p/liberal-zionisms-pr-machine-how-nuance [https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/p/liberal-zionisms-pr-machine-how-nuance].
* Hamze Awawde, “The Performance Must End,” The Higher Ground, https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/p/the-performance-must-end [https://thehighergroundstack.substack.com/p/the-performance-must-end].
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