The Things We Know

What Causes Relationships to Fall Apart? A Divorce Attorney Explains the Warning Signs

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa talk with Los Angeles divorce attorney Sarah Intelligator about what actually causes relationships and marriages to break down over time and what people often miss in the early stages of dating and partnership. After nearly two decades practicing family law, Sarah has seen recurring relationship patterns emerge in couples navigating divorce. She shares the most common warning signs of unhealthy relationships, why people ignore red flags, what keeps women stuck in unhappy partnerships, and how to rebuild trust in yourself after divorce or heartbreak. The conversation explores: * Early signs a relationship is becoming unhealthy * Why women override their instincts in dating and marriage * Common patterns that lead to divorce * Emotional disconnection in long term relationships * How to stop repeating relationship patterns * Dating after divorce or heartbreak * The difference between chemistry and compatibility * What healthy relationships actually require over time Sarah also discusses the “F-Words” she sees repeatedly in failing relationships and how greater self-awareness can help people make healthier relationship choices before reaching a breaking point. If you are questioning a relationship, recovering from divorce, navigating dating after heartbreak, or trying to build a healthier partnership, this episode offers practical insight and honest perspective from someone who has seen what happens when relationships succeed and when they fall apart. To purchase Sarah's book Live, Laugh, Find True Love: A Step-by-Step Guide to Finding a Meaningful Relationship https://a.co/d/877FJss [https://a.co/d/877FJss] —---- Join Lisa and Kari at the Best Chapter Yet Fall Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. It's two and a half days to exhale, reconnect, and be reminded that your best chapter is still ahead. Spots are filling — learn more and reserve yours here: bestchapteryetfall2026 [https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026] Find Kari and Lisa: 🎙 The Things We Know Podcast [https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] 📘 Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] 📸 Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod]

Why Does My Relationship Feel Different Even Though Nothing is Wrong?

In this episode of The Things We Know [https://thethingsweknowpodcast.com/], Kari Morin and Lisa Callahan talk honestly about how relationships evolve over time — beyond the early butterflies and beyond the breaking points — into something quieter, deeper, and often more meaningful than we expected. They explore: * Why relationships can feel different even when nothing is "wrong" * The slow emotional drift that can happen in long-term partnerships * How to stay connected when life, stress, and identity changes shift the dynamic * The grief of losing earlier versions of your relationship * What it actually means to keep choosing your partner over time You'll hear a grounded conversation about the small, daily moments that build real connection, and why love that shows up in patterns, consistency, and ordinary life may be the most lasting kind there is. If your relationship feels like it's changing, if you're feeling some distance, or if you've wondered — Is this still good? Is this what love is supposed to become? — this episode offers reassurance, perspective, and a more honest definition of long-term love. The cohosts also talk about why no partner can be everything, and how strong friendships — especially with other women who truly understand you — can strengthen your relationship rather than compete with it. If you're craving that kind of connection, join Lisa and Kari at the Best Chapter Yet Fall Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. It's two and a half days to exhale, reconnect, and be reminded that your best chapter is still ahead. Spots are filling — learn more and reserve yours here: bestchapteryetfall2026 [https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026] Find Kari and Lisa: 🎙 The Things We Know Podcast [https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] 📘 Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] 📸 Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod]

How Do You Know You are Ready for a Life Coach?

In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa turn the mic on themselves. As coaches who spend most of their time asking the questions, they finally sit in the guest seat and answer the ones that get to something real fast. What do people get wrong about coaching? Who are they actually built to work with? What does someone really come to them for, even when they can't name it yet? And how do you know when you're ready? This one is for any woman who has wondered whether coaching is for her — or who has been circling something she wants but hasn't quite let herself go after it yet. In this episode, Kari and Lisa talk about: * What people most commonly misunderstand about what coaches actually do * Who their ideal clients are and what those women are usually navigating when they reach out * What someone is really coming to coaching for — even when they don't say it that way at first * What changes for a woman when she does this work * The beliefs Kari and Lisa each had to let go of to coach the way they do now * What makes this work harder than most people expect * How to know if you're actually ready * The songs that embody their coaching philosophy (yes, really) Work with Kari or Lisa: Both offer an initial conversation that gets to the heart of what you actually want and what it takes to get there. By the end — whether you decide to work together or not — you'll know your next steps. 📅 Book here [https://calendly.com/transformationforreal/60min?month=2023-11] 📅 Book Here [https://www.cravevitality.com/get-started] 💛 Mention the podcast and receive 10% off your first coaching package with either of them.

When the Wound Becomes the Wisdom

We sat down with Athena Dean Holtz for a conversation about something most women don’t talk about enough — the decisions we make when we’re hurting. The ones that make sense at the time. The ones that cost us later. And the moment when you finally see the pattern and realize you can’t keep doing it the same way. We talk about wounded decision making, how women self-medicate with work, and what it actually takes to slow down long enough to recognize what’s driving your choices. We also get into forgiveness, the difference between healing old wounds and living through current ones, and what real transformation looks like from the inside. If you’ve ever looked back and thought, why did I choose that, this conversation will land. And also this: you don’t have to untangle it all on your own. There is something powerful about stepping out of your day-to-day life and into a room with women who are doing this work too. Women who are honest, self-aware, and ready for something different: Join Lisa and Kari at the next Best Chapter Yet Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. Spots are filling — learn more:https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026 [https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026] BRAND NEW! Join our Patreon for behind the scenes, bonus episodes and special discounts  https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink [https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink] Where to find Kari and Lisa: The Things We Know Podcast Homepage [https://www.transformationforreal.com/the-things-we-know] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast [https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod [https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod]   [https://www.eventcreate.com/e/unstoppablebcyretreat]

What Women are Living with Right Now

We didn’t plan this episode. We sat down and hit record because the news cycle last week was too much to ignore. We talk about what women are actually absorbing right now. The stories that don’t just stay in headlines, but land in our bodies. From political misconduct allegations to the exposure of online communities built around violating women, to the ongoing lack of accountability for powerful men. And just as much, we talk about the response. The defensiveness. The “not all men” conversation and why it misses the point. The silence from men who consider themselves good, and the exhaustion women feel carrying that gap. This is an unfiltered conversation about anger, grief, emotional labor, and what allyship actually requires right now. And also this: you are not meant to hold all of this alone. If you’ve been feeling the weight of it, being in a room with other women who get it isn’t just nice, it’s necessary.  Join Lisa and Kari at the next Best Chapter Yet Retreat, September 18–20 in Portland, Oregon. Spots are filling — learn more:https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026 [https://www.eventcreate.com/e/bestchapteryetfall2026] BRAND NEW! Join our Patreon for behind the scenes, bonus episodes and special discounts  https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink [https://patreon.com/TheThingsWeKnowPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink] Where to find Kari and Lisa: The Things We Know Podcast Homepage [https://www.transformationforreal.com/the-things-we-know] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast [ https://www.facebook.com/ThingWeKnowPodcast] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod [https://www.instagram.com/thethingsweknowpod]