Two Besties with a Mic

051 The Science & Soul of Bodywork with Clark Heady

This week, the Besties sit down with Clark Heady, a massage therapist and our personal encyclopedia of bodywork. Clark brings a blend of science, intuition, and real-life experience that makes you rethink everything you thought you knew about your body. From how fascia actually works, to why our daily habits shape the way we feel, to living in a small town with two very opinionated chihuahuas, Clark shares his journey with honesty, humor, and the kind of depth that makes you feel seen and understood. In this episode, you’ll learn: * The foundational science behind effective bodywork techniques * How intuition and empathy play a role in healing * Clark’s personal journey and what inspired him to pursue bodywork * Practical tips for both practitioners and clients to get the most out of each session * The importance of integrating mind, body, and spirit for holistic wellness Whether you’re a seasoned bodyworker, a curious client, or someone interested in the healing arts, this episode offers valuable insights and inspiration. Connect with Clark Heady: * Book through his website at Massage with Clark [https://www.massagebook.com/therapists/massage-with-clark?src=external] * Call or text: 315-778-1317 Connect with the Besties You can also follow Devan and Kelsey for more unfiltered conversations about real life, motherhood, and building a life on your terms on their Instagram ⁠@twobestieswithamic⁠ [http://instagram/] If you loved this episode, share it with your bestie, leave a review, and don’t forget to hit subscribe. All episodes are available on ⁠Spotify⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/show/0xGMuliZIrvuA23jcS4Ns2]  & ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-besties-with-a-mic/id1735628362].

050: Finding Yourself Again with Shanae Wiseman

This week marks a major milestone — the 50th episode of Two Besties with a Mic! To celebrate, the Besties sit down with Shanae Wiseman — a mom, wife, entrepreneur, and realtor — to talk about what it means to rebuild yourself through every season of life. From becoming a mom at just 15 to building a successful creative business and now thriving in real estate, Shanae’s story is one of resilience, courage, and learning to put yourself back on the list. She opens up about her early years as a teen mom, surviving an abusive relationship, finding love and stability, and how she learned to trust the process as her life evolved. Shanae shares what it’s like to juggle motherhood, marriage, and a growing business — all while rediscovering who she is beyond the labels of wife and mom. This episode is a powerful reminder that it’s okay to be selfish, to want something for yourself, and to chase independence even after years of putting everyone else first. Shanae’s journey shows that finding your identity after motherhood isn’t losing who you were — it’s uncovering who you’ve always been. Connect with Shanae Wiseman: Instagram: @shanaewithlakeontariorealty [https://www.instagram.com/shanaewithlakeontariorealty/] Facebook: Shanae Wiseman Licensed Real Estate Assoc. Broker [https://www.facebook.com/shanaewithlakeontariorealty] TikTok: @shanaewisemanrealestate [https://www.tiktok.com/@shanaewisemanrealestate?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc] Connect with Us: If you loved this episode, share it with your bestie, leave a review, and don’t forget to hit subscribe. All episodes are available on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0xGMuliZIrvuA23jcS4Ns2] and Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-besties-with-a-mic/id1735628362]. Follow Devan and Kelsey for more unfiltered conversations about real life, motherhood, and building a life on your terms on Instagram at @twobestieswithamic [https://www.instagram.com/twobestieswithamic/].

049: Breaking the Money Taboo with Kevin Cross

In this milestone episode, the Besties welcome their first-ever male guest, Kevin Cross, financial advisor and co-founder of Previs Wealth (and Kelsey’s cousin!). Together, they dive into money mindset, financial literacy, and how to build security without shame — all through honest, easy-to-understand conversations. From Kelsey’s early “new mom on a budget” story to Kevin’s practical tips for saving, debt, and planning for the future, this episode takes the fear out of finances and replaces it with confidence, strategy, and a little humor. Key Topics & Highlights: * Starting from Zero: How Kelsey’s financial journey began with one tough-love conversation that changed everything. * The Five Building Blocks of Financial Health: Kevin’s simple, approachable steps for budgeting, saving, managing debt, and planning long-term. * Debt Talk (Without the Shame): The difference between “good” and “bad” debt — and why credit cards can be both. * Retirement & Future Planning: Why starting small now matters more than waiting until it’s “the right time.” * Women & Money: Breaking through old gender norms in finance and encouraging more women to take the lead. * Life, Legacy, and Family: How to prepare for the unexpected — from wills and insurance to protecting your loved ones. * Entrepreneurship & Flexibility: Balancing self-employment, parenting, and finances in real life. Tune in for * Real, relatable money talk — no jargon required * Simple financial strategies that actually work * A fresh perspective on wealth, balance, and parenthood * The Besties’ signature mix of humor, honesty, and heart Connect with Kevin Kevin Cross | Previs Wealth Website: previswealth.com [http://previswealth.com/] Instagram & Facebook: @PrevisWealth [https://www.instagram.com/previswealth] LinkedIn: Previs Wealth [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevincrosspreviswealth/] Connect with the Besties Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/twobestieswithamic/] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0xGMuliZIrvuA23jcS4Ns2] | Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-besties-with-a-mic/id1735628362] Listen now for practical money wisdom, plenty of laughs, and the reminder that financial wellness is for everyone.

048 The Four Agreements in Everyday Life

In this reflective episode, Kelsey and Devan explore The Four Agreements [https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=AUTHOR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.muFjZ6cAuMivfPBRpA6cH2i6SYoBxDvXN4fyEp9xzQzZD2P6hvy9QJgjAs_pqxP68kIRGoL5ve2dO-NEsgx3UbbzJepOyhX4WfjrbbdRdY7geEyqlZwM4NWq4N_KTWVM6CLCGzo4Fl2-pYHwWybnR6Duji6gzUTX42kkpztqjV2yXoh4fxIqS2R0NUdTHEMr8K-wdSMNGXzyqPplwLcoC5AulHt29qN3KK2oStbMa4o.oEIGM_xDGW8y_KHJCRXMidzuJUaRq6Xappp_8vVI8zo] by Don Miguel Ruiz—a small but powerful book that has shaped their personal growth, relationships, and self-awareness journeys. From overcoming self-judgment to practicing authenticity, the besties break down how these timeless teachings can transform everyday life. Key Topics & Highlights: * The Dream of the Planet: How inherited beliefs and generational “agreements” shape the way we see ourselves—and why it’s worth questioning them. * Mistakes & Self-Judgment: Why humans punish themselves over and over, and how breaking that cycle can bring more emotional freedom. * The Four Agreements in Action: 1. Be impeccable with your word — The power of language, truth, and self-talk. 2. Don’t take anything personally — Remembering that other people’s behavior is about them, not you. 3. Don’t make assumptions — Replacing stories with clarity, communication, and curiosity. 4. Always do your best — Redefining “your best” as flexible, intentional, and rooted in self-compassion. * Everyday Practice: How Devan and Kelsey use these teachings in relationships, parenting, business, and personal growth—plus the reality of still messing up sometimes and trying again. Memorable Quotes: * “Your word can create the most beautiful dream, or your word can destroy everything around you.” * “When someone snaps at you or judges you, that’s about them—not you.” * “Doing your best is about effort and intention, not perfection.” Tune in for: * A beginner-friendly breakdown of The Four Agreements * Honest stories of applying (and struggling with) these principles * Laughter, real talk, and encouragement to live with more self-awareness and compassion. Connect with Us: Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/twobestieswithamic/] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0xGMuliZIrvuA23jcS4Ns2] | Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-besties-with-a-mic/id1735628362] Whether you’ve read the book or not, this episode will leave you with practical tools to create a more intentional, joyful life. Buy the book today! Listen now and join the conversation about living the four agreements in your own life!

047 Burning the Blueprint

Kelsey and Devan dive deep into the realities of entrepreneurship, personal growth, and the importance of authenticity in business and life. The conversation kicks off with Devan’s wild story about her car being stolen and recovered, and the emotional rollercoaster of dealing with unexpected life events—including a health scare with her dog. Key Topics & Highlights: * Letting Go of Others’ Blueprints: Both hosts reflect on the moment they realized they were chasing someone else’s version of success, and how embracing their own paths led to greater fulfillment. * Authenticity in Branding: Kelsey and Devan share stories about trying to fit into industry molds, from pastel branding to adopting personas that didn’t feel true to themselves, and how they eventually found confidence in just being themselves. * Healing Through Business: The hosts discuss how entrepreneurship has helped them heal old wounds, build self-worth, and break free from people-pleasing and comparison traps. * Rebuilding from Scratch: If they had to start over, both would focus on local community, intentional branding, and setting boundaries early—plus, the importance of flexibility for family and life changes. * Unlearning and Growth: The episode explores the necessity of unlearning people-pleasing, setting boundaries, and making business fit life (not the other way around). * Failures and Flops: Devan and Kelsey talk about “shoulds” that flopped, why failure isn’t the end, and how every experience—good or bad—offers a lesson. * Advice to Their Past Selves: Trust your gut, don’t chase someone else’s framework, and remember: there’s no single blueprint for success. Memorable Quotes: * “Your business should fit your life, not the other way around.” * “Stop trying to use other people’s frameworks just exactly as is. Learn from their lessons, but try it for yourself.” * “If you fail, just try again. It’s not the end all be all.” Tune in for: * Honest stories about business and life * Practical advice for entrepreneurs and creatives * Laughter, real talk, and a reminder that you’re not alone in figuring it all out Connect with us today:  Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/twobestieswithamic/] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0xGMuliZIrvuA23jcS4Ns2] | Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-besties-with-a-mic/id1735628362] Listen now and join the conversation about burning the blueprint and building a business—and a life—that’s truly your own!