The Dumb Saints Podcast

Cancer Sucks

In this episode, PJ shares the life-changing moment he was diagnosed with stage 4 non-Hodgkin lymphoma and what it was like stepping into the unknown of his first round of chemotherapy. We talk honestly about fear, uncertainty, and the emotional weight that comes with hearing news like that—but also about faith, hope, and finding the strength to keep moving when everything feels shaken. This is a conversation about healing, resilience, and what it means to fight not just physically, but spiritually and mentally in the middle of one of life’s hardest battles.

Jacob, Esau, and the Bowl of Soup

One moment. One craving. One trade that changed everything. In this episode, we dive into the story of Jacob and Esau and the shocking decision to exchange a lifelong blessing for a single bowl of soup. It sounds crazy—until you realize how often we do the same thing. From relationships to calling, we explore how easy it is to give up what matters most for what feels good right now. If you’ve ever wrestled with impatience, impulse, or short-term thinking, this conversation will challenge you to see the value of what you’re holding—and think twice before trading it away.

The Problem With Paychecks: Raising Volunteers vs. Hiring Doers

When everything in church gets a paycheck, what happens to serving? In this episode, we unpack the shift from raising volunteers to hiring “doers.” It can feel efficient—and sometimes even necessary—but it may be quietly changing the culture of our churches. Are we still developing people, ownership, and calling… or just paying to get things done? We talk through the tension: stewardship vs. discipleship, excellence vs. participation, and where the line actually is. Because if we’re not careful, we might build systems that work—without building people who grow.

Comfort is Killing the Church

Comfort might be the biggest threat to the church in America — and nobody wants to talk about it. In this episode, we ask some uncomfortable questions: Has following Jesus become too easy? Have we built churches around convenience instead of conviction? And what happens to our faith when comfort becomes the goal? The early believers in the Acts of the Apostles faced pressure, persecution, and sacrifice — yet the church exploded with growth. Meanwhile, we live with more freedom, more resources, and more comfort than ever… but many churches feel spiritually weak. So what happened? This is a conversation about comfort, conviction, and whether the modern church has slowly traded one for the other.

Are We Building the Church… or Just a Brand?

In this episode of the Dumb Saints Podcast, we’re asking a question that might make some church leaders uncomfortable: Are we building the Church… or just building a brand? In a world of livestreams, social media clips, stage design, and viral sermons, it’s easier than ever for churches to look successful. But does looking successful mean we’re actually making disciples? We talk about the tension between excellence and image management, pastors becoming influencers, and whether metrics like views and attendance are replacing real spiritual growth. None of this means branding or creativity are bad—but when the mission of the Church quietly shifts from faithfulness to optics, something has gone wrong. So how do we pursue excellence without drifting into performance? How do we use modern tools without letting them shape the mission? Let’s talk about it.