Average Age Groupers

Ep. 8: Emir’s Racing Origin Story, Crit Tactics, and Gravel Lessons

Holly and Maggie open the Average Age Groupers podcast with guests Emir and Alyssa.They recap a 140-mile out-and-back ride on the flat C&O Canal path, and share lessons about needing solid food (not just carb drink mix), managing nonstop pedaling, rotating pulls, and recovering enough to ride again the next day. Emir explains his role in a corporate-owned Trek location, how he got into cycling through his brother-in-law coach after a soccer background, and what crits, road races, upgrade points, team tactics, and safety rules like holding your line and the yellow-line rule involve. He describes racing frequently, training mostly indoors on a trainer after work, and recent road-race experiences including a fast collegiate-combined field, a major crash, and a third-place finish. Emir also recounts Steamboat gravel race attempts, including under-fueling, a cracked wheel, and finishing 82nd, plus discussion of sleep, supplements, and future cyclocross and Colorado race ideas. 00:00 Podcast Setup Chaos 00:37 Welcome and Kansas Plans 02:41 140 Mile Gravel Recap 06:48 Second Day Suffering 08:29 Inside the Trek Shop 10:40 How Amir Started Racing 13:12 Crit Racing Explained 15:54 From Soccer to Bike Shops 16:57 Pandemic Bike Shop Carnage 21:28 Mallorca Trip Changed Everything 24:31 Team Racing and Masters 28:05 Sleep and Recovery Detour 30:19 Race Season Routine 30:42 Indoor Trainer Routine 31:06 Hains Point Loops 32:08 Weekly Training Plan 33:31 Jeff Cup Race Tactics 37:19 Sprint Finish Crash 39:46 Racing Logistics Prep 41:27 Upgrade Points Explained 46:40 Cyclocross Bucket List 48:10 Steamboat Gravel Stories 54:26 Fueling And Gels 56:27 Colorado Race Wishlist 58:31 Wrap Up Next Episodes Listen to the Pod here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/average-age-groupers/id1889949099 https://open.spotify.com/show/2LJ6G7l1oIRZUIa3lo7NFp https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUYFKP1OYAMiMR1Ve36fOAw https://www.instagram.com/averageagegroupers/ https://waterfallracing.com https://www.instagram.com/forwardenduranceclub/

Ep. 7: From Horses to Ironman: Holly’s Endurance Origin Story (and the Teams Behind Average Age Groupers)

Laura, Holly, and Maggie introduce Average Age Groupers, explain they’re part of Waterfall Racing, and share details about their local community team, Forward Endurance Club (formerly Forward Tri Club), built around uncoached group workouts and post-training coffee and tacos. They then dive into Holly’s background: early track, years running a horse training business, returning to running after burnout, completing 5Ks and the 2016 Madison Half, and a rapid leap into ultras through MadPower and Her Madison, culminating in a grueling Fall 50-mile race marked by headwinds, strict cutoffs, celiac-fueled self-support, and finishing unofficially in the dark. After a long break from running, Holly transitions toward triathlon, learns to swim during COVID, completes a local “Last Tri Series,” then races Door County Sprint and Boulder 70.3, later adding Wisconsin 70.3, North Carolina 70.3, and Ironman Wisconsin 2024, with future episodes and guests teased and a request to like, comment, rate, and engage for algorithm support. 00:00 Meet the Hosts 00:37 Shoutouts and Listener Love 01:09 Waterfall Racing Explained 03:59 Forward Endurance Club Vibes 06:43 Holly Concussion Update 07:39 Early Sports and Horses 11:32 Back to Running and First 5Ks 13:38 First Half Marathon Lessons 18:42 MadPower and Ultra Leap 23:35 Fall 50 Training Grind 27:49 Race Day Headwind and Finish 37:00 Finish Line Letdown 38:10 Post Race Breakdown 39:42 Why Keep Racing 43:31 Chicago Marathon Takeaways 46:22 Tri Bike Leap 48:08 Learning To Swim 49:14 COVID Open Water Era 53:00 First Official Triathlons 53:39 Boulder Breakthrough 57:22 All In On Triathlon 01:00:53 Gravel Goals Next 01:01:25 Wrap Up And Next Episodes Listen to the Pod here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/average-age-groupers/id1889949099 https://open.spotify.com/show/2LJ6G7l1oIRZUIa3lo7NFp https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUYFKP1OYAMiMR1Ve36fOAw https://www.instagram.com/averageagegroupers/

Ep.6 4 Weeks to Unbound: Training, Recovery, and Gear Decisions

Holly, Maggie, and Laura open the “Average Age Groupers” episode with Maggie drinking wine at a winery while Holly tries to recover from a concussion and Laura jokes she’s only starting 70.3 training after Unbound. They discuss being four weeks out from Unbound and compare training approaches: Maggie blends the Unbound/Garmin plan with triathlon training, while Holly works with coach Ann Tully, who emphasizes recovery and weekly volume over “hero workouts,” especially after Holly’s recent car accident. Maggie outlines a planned 140-mile gravel ride on the C&O Canal and a 46-mile hilly ride, while Holly expects two consecutive 100+ mile weekends before tapering. They also cover equipment planning—bigger tires, tubeless inserts, bar comfort, lights, hydration packs, nutrition, and drop-tail bibs—plus Unbound rules, checkpoints, cutoffs, and the need for support crews. 00:00 Winery Chaos Intro 00:55 Meet the Age Groupers 03:13 Four Weeks to Unbound 03:47 Training Plans Compared 05:34 Longest Rides and Taper 07:56 Recovery Over Hero Workouts 11:30 Coaching and Life Stress 14:20 Bike Shop Reality Check 15:57 Gear Talk for Unbound 19:22 Tires Inserts and Comfort 24:47 Support Rules and Checkpoints 26:24 What to Wear and Mishaps 27:28 Bibs Blowout Drama 28:00 Drop Tail Bib Hunt 30:07 Castelli Fit And Features 31:06 Hydration Pack Experiments 34:00 Bike Computer Debate 36:19 Travel Van And SAG Needs 37:46 Course Intel And Crew Rules 40:52 Cutoffs And Long Day Math 42:38 Badger Ride Recap 45:53 Four Weeks To Unbound 47:53 IRL Pod And Sign Off https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUYFKP1OYAMiMR1Ve36fOAw https://www.instagram.com/averageagegroupers/ Anne Tully : https://annetullycoaching.com/home

EP. 5: Dairy Roubaix Gravel Recap: Free Espresso, Rotisserie Chicken SAG, and Surviving Wind + Hills

In episode five of Average Age Groupers, Holly, Laura, and Maggie recap weekend gravel riding amid wild Wisconsin spring weather and apologize for episode four’s technical issues. Holly describes tackling the Dairy Roubaix gravel event while recovering from a concussion after a car accident, pivoting from the planned 111-mile route to the 70-mile option due to cold, intense wind, fear on technical descents, navigation problems, and under-fueling; she still finishes about 72 miles with roughly 6,600 feet of climbing, with Laura and Claire cheering and SAGing—famously including a rotisserie chicken stop—plus free espresso in Viroqua. They discuss practical gravel safety tips like descending technique, helmet replacement after crashes, and carrying essentials like tape, first aid, and reliable navigation/communication. Maggie shares her own 67-mile Northern Virginia gravel ride, a friend’s crash, and lessons on preparedness for Unbound. 00:00 Welcome and Weather Whiplash 00:48 Meet the Hosts and Episode Notes 01:24 Dairy Roubaix Setup and Concussion Plan 03:10 Storms Ruin the Travel Plan 04:45 Race Morning Cold and Layering Up 07:03 Navigation Fails and Rocky Start 09:12 Brutal Climbs and Sketchy Descents 11:18 First Checkpoint and Route Negotiations 16:38 Coffee Shop Reset in Viroqua 21:53 Wind Gusts and Surprise Singletrack 26:33 Sag Stop Rotisserie Chicken Fuel 28:45 Confidence Boost Then Headwind Again 30:08 Terrifying Gravel Descent 31:57 Practical Descending Tips 35:40 Wind Tunnel Valley Grind 36:59 Bathroom Break and Cramps 39:03 Blurry Vision and No Stop 40:34 Walking the Steep Climbs 43:03 Pavement Headwind and Wrong Turn 44:31 Wind and Wheel Setup Lessons 46:27 Finish Line and Gravel Vibes 49:12 Nutrition Debrief and Hydration Pack 53:35 Recovery and Unbound Prep 55:02 Maggie Gravel Ride Recap 59:18 Crash Aftermath and Safety Gear 01:03:10 Wrap Up and Call to Action Listen to the Pod here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/average-age-groupers/id1889949099 https://open.spotify.com/show/2LJ6G7l1oIRZUIa3lo7NFp https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUYFKP1OYAMiMR1Ve36fOAw https://www.instagram.com/averageagegroupers/

Ep. 4: Sherpaing 101: How to Support Endurance Athletes (Unsupported Gravel, Ironman Logistics & Spectator Tips)

Holly, Maggie and Laura return for Episode 4 of Average Age Groupers, recording remotely after Maggie goes back to DC, and shift topics to “sherpaing” (supporting athletes). They discuss Laura’s upcoming role as Sherpa for the fully unsupported Dairy Roubaix gravel event—a 111-mile prep ride for Unbound—amid volatile weather and Holly’s concussion recovery. Using experiences from Oceanside and other races, they compare the logistics of supporting triathlons, gravel, and ultras, emphasizing packing, tracking, timing, race rules around outside aid, and the realities of carrying gear post-finish. They share practical Sherpa checklists (battery pack, layers, snacks, shoes, bags), lessons learned from mishaps like Boulder tracking issues, and which races are easy or difficult to spectate (Oceanside, Wisconsin, Santa Cruz, Chattanooga, Blue Ridge, St. George). They invite listener questions, encourage subscribing/reviews, and float starting a Strava club. 00:00 Long Distance Pod Update 00:41 Unsupported Gravel Sherpa Plan 02:37 Dairy Roubaix Prep Ride 04:05 Why Sherpas Matter 10:01 Triathlon Sherpa Chaos 17:16 Race Rules and Outside Aid 21:57 Sherpa Checklist Essentials 22:44 Sherpa Packing Checklist 23:22 Post Race Comfort Items 24:23 Phones And Tracking Lessons 26:51 Finish Line Meet Up Plan 28:42 Shoes And Bag Mistakes 30:22 Timing Food And Multiple Athletes 33:26 Race By Race Spectating Tips 42:11 Course Maps Parking And Prep 43:15 Listener Questions And Wrap Up 44:39 Podcast Milestones And Strava Listen to the Pod here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/average-age-groupers/id1889949099 https://open.spotify.com/show/2LJ6G7l1oIRZUIa3lo7NFp https://www.instagram.com/averageagegroupers/