Data Xposure: The Podcast for Data Risk Leaders

From Depp-Heard to Epstein: How eDiscovery Became Everyone’s Problem | Data Xposure - Ep 16

The headlines are hard to ignore. High-profile cases— the scrutiny of celebrity text messages and photos in the Depp-Heard litigation to the release of Epstein-related documents—have turned private communications into public evidence. What was once buried in legal proceedings is now playing out in real time, shaping reputations, careers, and corporate risk. But these aren’t edge cases. They’re signals. In this episode of Data Xposure, we explore how eDiscovery has moved into the mainstream—and why it now impacts far more than just legal teams. Because the same types of messages, files, and digital conversations making headlines are being created inside your organization every day. Doug Austin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ddouglasaustin/], a leading voice in eDiscovery with over 30 years of experience and the Editor of eDiscovery Today, joins us to unpack what’s changed—and why so many organizations are still unprepared. From the explosion of collaboration tools to the growing expectations of regulators and courts, he explains how everyday data has become a business-wide liability if it’s not properly understood and managed. For legal, compliance, and security leaders, this is the shift: eDiscovery is no longer a moment you prepare for. It’s a continuous reflection of how your organization operates. Because as recent headlines make clear— the risk isn’t just in what’s exposed. It’s in what’s been there all along. Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/ [https://www.exterro.com/resources/data-exposure-podcast/]

When What You Find Online Becomes Evidence—and a Liability | Data Xposure - Ep 15

What if the information your team relies on… isn’t as reliable as it looks? In today’s investigations, it’s never been easier to find information online. Social media, public records, data brokers—answers are everywhere. But in this episode of Data Xposure, we explore a harder question: Can you actually trust what you find? Justin Tolman sits down with Jessica Stutzman, an open source intelligence expert and founder of Pangea Research, who has worked across law enforcement, national security, and the private sector helping organizations turn online information into actionable insight. Together, they unpack how companies are using publicly available data to support investigations—and where it can quietly go wrong. Because while this kind of research can uncover critical leads, it can also introduce serious risk: * Drawing the wrong conclusions from incomplete information * Relying on tools you don’t fully understand * Using evidence that won’t hold up under scrutiny And when that happens, the consequences aren’t just technical—they’re business-critical. Cases fall apart. Decisions get challenged. Credibility is on the line. Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/ [https://www.exterro.com/resources/data-exposure-podcast/]

Why Most Legal Departments Overspend—and How Legal Ops Can Help Fix It | Data Xposure - Ep 14

Corporate legal departments are under constant pressure to control costs while managing growing workloads across litigation, investigations, and compliance. Yet many organizations still overspend, often because technology, vendors, and operational processes lack centralized ownership. In this episode of Data Xposure, Alayne Russom, Director of Legal Operations at Thrivent, explains how legal ops can bring structure, visibility, and discipline to the business side of legal. What listeners will learn: How legal departments overspend and why fragmented ownership of technology and vendors drives unnecessary costs Strategies for reducing outside counsel spend by bringing more work in-house How legal ops leaders can optimize processes so legal teams work more efficiently across the business. Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/ [https://www.exterro.com/resources/data-exposure-podcast/]

Take Back Control How In-House Legal Teams Are Reclaiming Power in Litigation | Data Xposure - Ep 13

Litigation risk isn’t just growing. It’s spreading. And too many legal teams are still responding the old way, collect everything remotely related to litigation, ship it out for collection and review, and hope for defensibility later. In this episode of Data Xposure, brought to you by Exterro, Greg Gruic, a computer science engineer turned Law Operations leader at Marathon Petroleum, explains how in-house teams hope to reclaim more control. His approach: stop exporting risk and start tightening governance before litigation begins. Listen to this podcast to learn: * Why data sprawl is leaving legal departments less prepared than ever * How “evergreen” data maps and intake workflows prevent downstream chaos * Resetting engagement expectations so outside counsel works inside your controlled environment Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/ [https://www.exterro.com/resources/data-exposure-podcast/]

Overcoming the ‘What If We Need It?’ Mindset: Building a Culture of Defensible Deletion | Data Xposure - Ep 12

What’s really driving your data retention decisions: policy, or fear? In this episode of Exterro's Data Xposure podcast, host Fahad Diwan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/fahaddiwan/] sits down with Ryan Zilm [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanzilm/], Director of Information Governance & Privacy at H2O America and former ARMA International President, to confront one of the most common and dangerous cultural defaults inside large enterprises: “What if we need it?” Ryan shares the story of leading a large-scale ROT (redundant, obsolete, trivial) cleanup campaign and the deeper lesson it revealed: organizations don’t struggle with deletion because of technology they struggle because of mindset. What starts as hesitation quickly compounds into expanded discovery scope, unnecessary legal hold complexity, regulatory exposure, and a broader attack surface for security teams. Through real-world examples of stakeholder resistance, executive alignment, and hard-earned leadership lessons, Ryan explains how to replace fear-based retention with defensible, policy-driven deletion. For legal, privacy, and security leaders under pressure to reduce risk without increasing resources, this episode reframes deletion as a strategic control, not a reckless act. What You’ll Walk Away With: * A clear understanding of how the “What if we need it?” mindset increases litigation, regulatory, and breach exposure. * Practical strategies for shifting organizational culture from data hoarding to defensible deletion. Because in today’s enterprise, keeping everything isn’t safe, it’s risky. Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/ [https://www.exterro.com/resources/data-exposure-podcast/]