Fate, Forty, and Beyond

Aliens, Atlantis & Astrology Apps: A Midlife Spiritual Deep Dive

What happens when two women who found each other in an online woo community finally sit down to talk — really talk? Pure magic. In this episode of Fate Forty and Beyond, Gen sits down with writer Michelle Angone for one of the most honest, wide-ranging conversations you'll hear all year. From coming out of the broom closet in your 30s to tracking the Mother Goddess all the way back through history (spoiler: Michelle ended up at aliens), this episode covers what it feels like to finally stop pretending you don't believe what you believe — and what happens when you give yourself permission to just go there. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introductions 01:07 Meet Michelle Angone 02:14 Mystic South memories 04:58 Live tarot reading begins 07:55 Grief and becoming the elder generation 09:27 Aging and authenticity 10:46 Cacao ceremony and showing up 11:40 Gen's spiritual origin story 13:26 Michelle's origin story 15:01 Leaving religion and reclaiming power 20:00 Tarot traditions compared 25:00 Mediumship and the afterlife 30:58 Defending Your Life and Journey of Souls 32:13 Soul chains and choosing our parents 33:50 Soul contracts and divorce 35:08 Gnosticism and Mary Magdalene 38:22 Tracing the Mother Goddess… to aliens 40:26 Conspiracy theories and open minds 43:12 The Sedona Jeep tour 45:12 Atlantis and ancient civilizations 53:00 Women's meetups and community ideas 56:39 Mental health and creative projects 58:08 The Cosmic Brief app 1:03:41 Stop making yourself small 1:10:13 Can a past life be a future life? 1:11:03 Wrap-up and goodbyes MENTIONED Journey of Souls by Michael Newton: https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855 [https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855] Defending Your Life (1991 film): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101698/ [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101698/] The Magdalene Manuscripts ; https://www.amazon.com/Magdalen-Manuscript-Alchemies-Horus-Magic/dp/193103205X [https://www.amazon.com/Magdalen-Manuscript-Alchemies-Horus-Magic/dp/193103205X] Mystic South 2025: https://mystic-south.com [https://mystic-south.com] Pagans In Recovery: https://www.pagansinrecovery.org/ [https://www.pagansinrecovery.org/] CONNECT WITH MICHELLE ANGONE Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michelle.angone [https://www.facebook.com/michelle.angone] Email: michelleangone@gmail.com [michelleangone@gmail.com] CONNECT WITH GEN Soulful Existence: www.soulfulexistence.com [http://www.soulfulexistence.com] The Cosmic Brief App: www.thecosmicbrief.app [http://www.thecosmicbrief.app] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence [https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Gen-Rodriguez/672143258/ [https://www.facebook.com/people/Gen-Rodriguez/672143258/] ✨ If this episode made you feel seen, leave a review and share it with one friend who's been quietly witchy this whole time.

Consistency as a Sacred Practice: Showing Up for Yourself in Midlife

Gen opens up about a personal struggle — a project that brought her to tears — and uses it to explore why showing up for ourselves consistently is one of the most spiritual, scientific, and emotionally profound things we can do in midlife. She weaves together neuroscience, psychology, and wisdom from spiritual traditions worldwide to reframe consistency not as a productivity hack, but as a devotional act — a form of self-love that rebuilds trust from the inside out. She addresses why so many women in midlife struggle to follow through (hint: it's not laziness — it's conditioning, hormonal shifts, and a brain in active transition) and offers compassionate, practical tools for starting smaller and staying longer. The breakthrough isn't the practice. The faithfulness before the breakthrough is. 📚 RESOURCES Books: Composing a Further Life (Bateson) · Good Habits, Bad Habits (Wood) · Tiny Habits (Fogg) · An Altar in the World (Brown Taylor) Researchers: Carl Jung · Dr. Lisa Mosconi · Donald Hebb · Kristin Neff · Roy Baumeister · John Bowlby · Adam Grant · Albert Bandura · Brené Brown Institutions: University College London · American Psychological Association · Harvard Medical School & National Institute on Aging Also referenced: Rumi 🔗 FIND US 🌐 www.fatefortyandbeyond.com [http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com] ✨ Soulful Existence (readings & sessions): www.soulfulexistence.com [http://www.soulfulexistence.com] 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond [http://instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond] 🎵 TikTok: tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond [http://tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond]

When Life Forces the Pivot

In this warm and wide-ranging conversation, Gen sits down with Caren Paskel, self-evolution coach, author, and yoga teacher who transformed profound loss into a blueprint for radical reinvention. After losing her husband to brain cancer, her yoga studios during the pandemic, and eventually her home in Detroit, Caren didn't just rebuild — she completely reimagined what her life could look like. Now 48 and living in Colorado, she's the author of two books: The Power of Self-Belief and Midlife Crisis to Midlife Creation: The Five Steps to Recreate Your Life and Reclaim Your Power. What unfolds is less an interview and more a conversation between two women who clearly speak the same language. They cover the tarot reading Gen pulls for Caren, the connection between nervous system regulation and abundance, and why staying open to multiple possibilities — in dating, housing, career, and life — is actually a spiritual practice. It's the kind of conversation that makes you feel like you've been sitting at the table with them the whole time. [00:00] Welcome & Caren's intro [01:20] Losing her husband & writing The Power of Self-Belief [02:50] Midlife Crisis to Midlife Creation — the five steps [04:00] Midlife awakening vs. midlife crisis [05:00] Nervous system regulation & yoga [05:50] Gen's wellness journey [08:10] Tarot reading begins [14:30] Midlife Olympic Dating — the viral post [16:25] Influencing vs. inspiring [18:15] Sacred pauses & social media breaks [20:25] Staying open to multiple possibilities [25:10] Grief, gratitude & not getting stuck [29:10] What called Caren to Colorado [34:05] When the universe forced the move [42:10] Space is where the magic happens [46:25] The Empress & the Hierophant [53:15] Toxic positivity vs. genuine optimism [59:25] Money as renewable energy [1:05:30] Inspirational income [1:19:20] Advice to your 20-year-old self RESOURCES & LINKS * Caren Paskel — Self-evolution coach, author, and yoga teacher * The Power of Self-Belief by Caren Paskel * Midlife Crisis to Midlife Creation: The Five Steps to Recreate Your Life and Reclaim Your Power by Caren Paskel (workbook) * Caren on TikTok: @Caren.Paskel * Caren on Instagram: @CarenPaskel * Caren's website: CarenPaskel.com [http://CarenPaskel.com] * Brené Brown — referenced in discussion of shame and storytelling * The Universal Laws (also covered in Gen's mini episode) * Afformations (vs. affirmations) — referenced as a mindset tool If you love warm, real midlife conversations with humor and heart, you'll feel right at home here. Follow the show & connect with Gen: Gen's Website: http://www.soulfulexistence.com [http://www.soulfulexistence.com] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence [https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence] TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence [https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence] Podcast homepage: http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com [http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com] Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond] Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond]

Something Is Opening Up: The Signs You Might Be a Medium

In this mini episode, Gen responds to a listener question that stopped her in her tracks. Their question: how do you know what's grief psychosis and what's real? Gen's answer is warm, grounding, and deeply personal. Gen walks listeners through six of the most common signs that someone is opening up to mediumship, including clairaudience, knowing when someone has passed before being told, visitation dreams, heightened sensitivity to energy, synchronicities and signs, and a sudden pull toward all things metaphysical. She draws on her own lived experiences throughout. But this episode isn't just about recognizing the signs. It's also about the doubt that almost always comes with them. She reminds listeners that you don't have to become a practicing medium to honor what's happening within you. You just have to be willing to stop explaining it away long enough to actually experience it. ---------------------------------------- TIMESTAMPS * [00:18] Welcome and Listener Question That Inspired This Episode * [02:45] What Mediumship Actually Is (Stripping Away the Hollywood Version) * [05:10] Why Grief Opens the Door to Spirit Communication * [07:00] Sign 1: Clairaudience — Hearing a Voice That Isn't Yours * [10:20] Sign 2: Knowing When Someone Has Passed Before Being Told * [13:45] Gen's Story: Waking Up the Moment Her Former Mother-in-Law Passed * [16:30] Sign 3: Visitation Dreams and What Makes Them Different * [19:50] Gen's Cousin and the Visitation That Left Her Feeling Settled * [22:30] Sign 4: Heightened Sensitivity to Energy and Environment * [25:00] Sign 5: Synchronicities, Signs, and Spirit's Language * [27:15] Gen's Story: Smelling Spaghetti in an Empty House * [30:00] Sign 6: A Sudden Pull Toward the Metaphysical * [32:00] The Doubt Question — Is This Grief or Is This Real? * [36:45] How Doubt Closes Down What's Opening Up * [39:00] Closing Message to the Listener and Invitation to Go Deeper RESOURCES & LINKS * Journey of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton * Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss (referenced in context of Gen's broader spiritual framework) * Soulful Existence — Gen's private session practice: soulfulexistence.com [http://soulfulexistence.com] * The four clairs in mediumship: clairaudience, clairvoyance, claircognizance, clairsentience If you love warm, real midlife conversations with humor and heart, you'll feel right at home here. Follow the show & connect with Gen: Gen's Website: http://www.soulfulexistence.com [http://www.soulfulexistence.com] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence [https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence] TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence [https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence] Podcast homepage: http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com [http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com] Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond] Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond]

When Your Reality Breaks Open

In Episode 19 of Fate, Forty, and Beyond, Gen welcomes Lisa Eva Zack — mother of five, women's advocate, and founder of a new nonprofit — for a conversation that moves from tarot cards to theology to tiny homes and back again. Lisa shares how a breaking point at work and the end of her second marriage became a catalyst for total reinvention, leading her toward a deeper trust in intuition and a mission to build real community for women who have nowhere to land. Lisa opens up about leaving a job that was crushing her, navigating solo parenthood of five, and her dream of creating a sanctuary for mothers in transition. Gen and Lisa also get into spiritual deconstruction after Catholic upbringings, self-love as the oxygen mask you put on first, and the grief that quietly arrives when life doesn't look the way you planned. Timestamps: * [00:18] Welcome & Introduction to the Show * [01:00] Meet Lisa Eva Zack: Advocacy, Motherhood & Evolution * [04:19] The Tarot Reading Begins * [06:32] Lisa's Story: When Your Reality Breaks Open * [09:35] Catholic Upbringings and Spiritual Deconstruction * [17:26] The Gen X Productivity Trap and Learning to Be Still * [18:36] The Breaking Point: Quitting, Leaping, and Trusting the Fall * [29:19] Lisa's Vision: A Sanctuary for Single Mothers * [31:05] Spiral Dynamics and The World Card — Going Back for Others * [41:37] Self-Love First: The Oxygen Mask Reframe * [50:40] The Grief of a Life That Didn't Go as Planned * [1:04:10] Goddess Oracle: Vesta * [1:08:06] Wild Offering: Loneliness * [1:09:07] Closing Reflections RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED * Lisa Eva Zack — (women's advocacy organization, in development) * Bhante Sujatha — Loving Kindness Monk, https://bhantesujatha.org/ [https://bhantesujatha.org/] * Spiral Dynamics — framework for stages of human psychological development https://spiraldynamics.org/ [https://spiraldynamics.org/] * Goddess Guidance Oracle Deck - https://amzn.to/3O2gzxv [https://amzn.to/3O2gzxv] * Wild Offering Oracle Deck — https://amzn.to/4tHNYMS [https://amzn.to/4tHNYMS] If you love warm, real midlife conversations with humor and heart, you'll feel right at home here. Follow the show & connect with Gen: Gen's Website: http://www.soulfulexistence.com [http://www.soulfulexistence.com] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence [https://www.instagram.com/soulfulxistence] TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence [https://www.tiktok.com/@soulfulxistence] Podcast homepage: http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com [http://www.fatefortyandbeyond.com] Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.instagram.com/fatefortyandbeyond] Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond [https://www.tiktok.com/@fatefortyandbeyond] This contains affiliate links with may result in a small commission from sales.