Ep. 34 - Richard Zapien
Today’s conversation explores leadership, access, identity, and the systems that shape opportunity—especially in a moment when technology and artificial intelligence are rapidly changing the world around us.
My guest is Richard Zapien, an educator and leader whose work spans more than 25 years across teaching, instructional coaching, site leadership, and district administration within the San Francisco Unified School District. He currently serves as Professional Learning Coordinator with the 21st Century California School Leadership Academy (21CSLA) Bay Area Regional Academy at the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Education, where he supports equity-centered leadership development across schools and districts.
Throughout this conversation, Richard challenges us to think more deeply about who gets seen, who gets access, and how leadership decisions shape opportunity—not only in education, but across society.
Together, we discuss the importance of representation in leadership, the lasting impact of deficit narratives, and the ways systems can unintentionally reinforce inequities. Richard reflects on the moment early in his career that shifted his work from a profession to a purpose, and how that experience continues to ground his leadership today.
We also explore the evolving role of artificial intelligence and computer science in schools and communities. Richard offers thoughtful insight into what AI literacy really means, why access matters, and how bias can show up in both technology and leadership systems. Rather than viewing computer science simply as coding, he reframes it as a pathway toward problem-solving, critical thinking, civic awareness, and opportunity.
This conversation also highlights the importance of belonging and affinity spaces for leaders of color, particularly through Richard’s work with the Latino Leaders Affinity Network. He speaks candidly about the pressures many leaders carry, the realities of systems-level leadership, and the responsibility leaders have to approach both technology and people with intention, compassion, and critical awareness.
At its heart, this episode is about leadership that sees humanity clearly—leadership rooted not only in strategy and systems, but in dignity, representation, relationships, and hope.
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