Murder of Crones

E17 Smile Sweetie the Story of Resting B Face

In this engaging episode our hosts explore the societal perceptions of women's facial expressions, especially Resting Bitch Face (RBF), and how these perceptions impact women's experiences in healthcare, professional settings, and social interactions. It delves into cultural differences, gender stereotypes, racial biases, and the importance of self-advocacy.   Show Notes Takeaways: - The science behind facial expressions and social cues - Cultural differences in interpreting resting face - Gender bias and societal expectations around women and men - The impact of resting face on women's professional and personal lives - Unconscious biases and their influence on perception Societal perceptions of women's facial expressions - Impact of RBF on women's healthcare experiences - Cultural differences in expressing emotions - Racial and gender biases in social and medical contexts - Strategies for self-advocacy and authenticity   Chapters: 00:01 Introduction to Murder of Crones Podcast 00:49 Exploring RBF 05:28 Personal Experiences with RBF 11:00 Cultural Perspectives on Facial Expressions 14:04 The Burden of Smiling 16:18 RBF: A Double Standard 18:47 Cultural Expectations and Gender Norms 20:39 Unconscious Bias and Social Perception 29:16 The Impact of RBF on Professional Life 35:59 Navigating Health and Communication Challenges 36:49 The Impact of RBF on Women's Health 39:45 Systematic Dismissal of Women's Pain 44:13 Advocating for Women's Health in Medical Settings 47:03 Intersectionality in Healthcare Disparities 53:01 Understanding Neurodiversity and Gender Bias 54:25 Understanding Neurodivergence in Women 55:54 Cultural Perspectives on Facial Expressions 01:00:46 The Impact of RBF Across Cultures 01:05:27 Breaking Gender Norms and Embracing Authenticity 01:08:28 The Social Media Landscape and Its Effects 01:11:16 Concluding Thoughts on Performance and Identity   References: B, Nikki. “The "Bitch” Penalty: Why Assertive Women Pay the Price in Industry.” Linked In, 5 March 2026, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitch-penalty-why-assertive-women-pay-price-industry-nikki-bens-vzvqc/. Carpenter, Kalyn. “Getting real about women's health - Fatal delays and the misdiagnosis epidemic.” Curious Health, 7 March 2024, https://curioushealth.io/getting-real-about-womens-health-fatal-delays-and-the-misdiagnosis-epidemic/. Accessed 5 April 2026. Christopher, Watkins D., et al. “Social Transmission of Leadership Preference: Knowledge of Group Membership and Partisan Media Reporting Moderates Perceptions of Leadership Ability From Facial Cues to Competence and Dominance.” Frontiers in Psychology, vol. 10, no. 2996, 2020. National Library of Medicine, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6971406/. Cooke, Martin, and Tasha Shields. “Anti-Indigenous racism in Canadian healthcare: a scoping review of the literature.” International Journal for Quality in Health Care, vol. 36, no. 3, 2024. Oxford Academic, https://academic.oup.com/intqhc/article/36/3/mzae089/7749614?login=false. Grossman, Samantha. “The Insidious Sexism of 'Resting Bitch Face.'” This Week, 10 January 2019, https://theweek.com/articles/815496/insidious-sexism-resting-bitch-face. Harris Dr., Felecia C. “The Resting "Bitch" Face: Exploring The Intersection of African American Women, Race, Class, Sexuality. Gender and Reality TV.” University of North Carolina at Charlotte, 2016. Digital Commons, https://digitalcommons.winthrop.edu/sewsa/2016/fullschedule/5/. Khazan, Olga. “Why Some Cultures Frown on Smiling.” The Atlantic, 27 May 2016, https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/05/culture-and-smiling/483827/. Mehrotra, Palasha Krishna. “The Unsmiling Indian.” Man's World, https://www.mansworldindia.com/lifestyle/the-unsmiling-indian. R, Rathi. “Resting Bitch Face: Why Are Only Women Accused Of Having It?” Feminism in India, 1 August 2017, https://feminisminindia.com/2017/08/01/resting-bitch-face-women/. Salamon, Maureen. “The dangerous dismissal of women's pain.” Harvard Women's Health Watch, 2025. Harvard Health Publishing, https://www.health.harvard.edu/pain/the-dangerous-dismissal-of-womens-pain. “The Science Behind an Expressive Face and Its Signals.” Science Insights, 25 November 2025, https://scienceinsights.org/the-science-behind-an-expressive-face-and-its-signals/. Strinic, Andrea, et al. “Multiple-group membership: warmth and competence perceptions in the workplace.” Journal of Business and Psychology, vol. 36, 2020, pp. 903-920. Springer Nature Link, https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10869-020-09713-4.   Contact Information: Find Murder of Crones on You Tube, Tik Tok, Facebook and Instagram.  Email : mofcrones@gmail.com [mofcrones@gmail.com]   Special Thanks to www.dinnissendesign.com [http://www.dinnissendesign.com] for Zabrina’s use of their show room for recording. Check them out for all your interior design needs. Dinnissen Design is located in Vancouver and Castlegar BC.

E16 Tradwives: Feminist Freedom or Step Backward?

What happens when traditional gender roles meet modern feminism? In this episode of Murder of Crones, Kori, Jen, and Zab unpack the rise of the Tradwife movement—looking beyond the aesthetic to question power, choice, and control. Is it genuine empowerment, or a return to limiting roles shaped by religion and politics? Are Tradwives anti-feminist… or feminism in action? Listen in and decide.   Show Notes Takeaways: * The traditional wife model: roles, aesthetics, and cultural significance * Power dynamics and submission within Tradwife relationships * The ideological underpinnings: religion, politics, and white nationalism * Social media's role in glamorizing and monetizing Tradwife culture * Feminism’s perspective: choice, autonomy, and societal implications * The intersection of Tradwives with conservative policies and social agendas * The economic realities and risks for women adopting this lifestyle * Critique of hustle culture and capitalism within the Tradwife aesthetic * Future challenges: legislation, social acceptance, and diversity of choice Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: the rise and cultural aesthetic of Tradwives 02:00 - Social media's influence on Tradwife culture 03:13 - Initial reactions: admiration, confusion, alarm 03:38 - Tradwives as a step backward for feminism 04:01 - Wealth and visibility in Tradwife portrayals 05:03 - Traditional model: roles, submission, and gender dynamics 06:49 - Visual aesthetics and curated femininity 07:46 - Morphed and adapted social media presence 08:38 - Gender differences and role delineation 09:04 - Trust and decision-making in Tradwife relationships 10:11 - The importance of partnership vs hierarchy 11:00 - Vulnerabilities: losing skills, economic insecurity 12:06 - Historical context: 1950s family ideals 13:16 - Religious and conservative political influences 14:37 - Social media promotion and the glamorization of domestic skills 16:12 - Economic autonomy and potential risks for women 17:18 - The appeal amid burnout and social chaos 18:29 - Declining marriage rates and social trends 19:25 - The racial and nationalist undertones of procreation drives 21:17 - Impact on children and religious influences on gender roles 22:39 - Religious and conservative currents in the Tradwife movement 25:41 - The intersection with politics, legislation, and social policy 28:49 - Submission, obedience, and power structures in relationships 36:32 - The branding and monetization of Tradwife influencers 44:51 - Social media as a marketing platform and industry for Tradwives 55:21 - The dangerous undercurrents: white nationalism, religious fundamentalism 60:27 - Feminism and choice: navigating autonomy vs societal pressures 62:41 - The importance of political engagement and education 64:29 - The role of legislation and the need for social vigilance 66:01 - The importance of critical thinking and empathy in education 66:39 - Closing thoughts and acknowledgments   This episode provides a nuanced perspective on a controversial social phenomenon—balancing respect for individual choice with a critique of underlying societal and political currents. Whether you see the Tradwife lifestyle as empowerment or regression, understanding its complexities is essential.   Reference:                                                                                                                           Bilezikian, G. (1985). Beyond sex roles: What the Bible says about a woman’s place in church and family. Baker Academic. Butler, J. (1990). Gender trouble: Feminism and the subversion of identity. Routledge. Hochschild, A. R., & Machung, A. (2012). The second shift: Working families and the revolution at home (Revised ed.). Penguin Books. (Original work published 1989) Nock, S. L. (1998). Marriage in men’s lives. Oxford University Press. Pateman, C. (1988). The sexual contract. Stanford University Press. Perel, E. (2006). Mating in captivity: Unlocking erotic intelligence. HarperCollins. Rubin, G. (1975). The traffic in women: Notes on the “political economy” of sex. In R. Reiter (Ed.), Toward an anthropology of women (pp. 157–210). Monthly Review Press. Schwartz, P. (1994). Peer marriage: How love between equals really works. Free Press. Contact Information: Find Murder of Crones on You Tube, Tik Tok, Facebook and Instagram.  Email : mofcrones@gmail.com [mofcrones@gmail.com] Special Thanks to www.dinnissindesign.com [http://www.dinnissendesign.com] for Zabrina’s use of their show room for recording. Check them out for all your interior design needs. Dinnissen Design is located in Vancouver and Castlegar BC.

E15 Sex Myths, Part 2

Welcome back for part 2 of Sex Myths. In this episode, we explore common myths about sex and desire in long-term relationships, aiming to shed light on the realities that often go unspoken. Our conversations unravel misconceptions that can hinder intimacy, offering insight and encouragement for enduring love lives.   Show Notes  Takeaways: * The myth that love naturally sustains desire over time * How desire evolves with age and changes in life circumstances * The impact of societal expectations and myths about aging and sexuality * The role of emotional safety, distance, and separation in maintaining desire * The influence of societal norms, porn, and cultural stories on expectations * The significance of communication and honesty about intimacy * The effects of parenthood and life transitions on sexuality * Challenging the idea that sexual frequency equals health * The importance of individual external lives and separate interests * How myths about sexual performance and aging can create unnecessary stress Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction to the myths surrounding long-term sex and desire    02:17 - Why silence and shame impact ongoing intimacy                          04:46 - The myth that desire fades as love endures                                        10:05 - How opening relationships doesn't necessarily restore desire      13:54 - The historical and cultural context of sexuality in different eras        17:28 - Impact of societal beliefs about spontaneous desire                          22:19 - The challenge of keeping the spark alive and the myth of eternal passion                                                                                                                  26:40 - The effectiveness of date nights and creating space for eroticism  29:47 - Differentiating closeness and desire, and the importance of healthy separation                                                                                                35:10 - How desire fluctuates with life phases and age                                    43:06 - Common misconceptions that low desire signals relationship failure                                                                                                                    47:30 - The influence of porn, fantasy, and societal narratives on expectations                                                                                                      50:01 - The myth that aging ends eroticism and desire Note: For a more comprehensive understanding, we recommend reading Esther Perel’s work, which guides much of our discussion today. The episode emphasizes that desire and intimacy in long-term relationships are dynamic, and myths only serve to create unnecessary pressure. Honest communication, ongoing self-awareness, and redefining societal narratives are key to sustaining a healthy, passionate love life as the years go by. References Basson, R. (2001). Using a different model for female sexual response to address women’s problematic low sexual desire. Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 27(5), 395–403. https://doi.org/10.1080/009262301753148637 [https://doi.org/10.1080/009262301753148637] Baumeister, R. F., Catanese, K. R., & Vohs, K. D. (2001). Is there a gender difference in strength of sex drive? Personality and Social Psychology Review, 5(3), 242–273. https://doi.org/10.1207/S15327957PSPR0503_5 [https://doi.org/10.1207/S15327957PSPR0503_5] Bogaert, A. F. (2004). Asexuality: Prevalence and associated factors. The Journal of Sex Research, 41(3), 279–287. https://doi.org/10.1080/00224490409552235 [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224490409552235] Hamilton, L. D., & Meston, C. M. (2013). Chronic stress and sexual function in women. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 42(7), 1349–1359. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-012-0044-0 [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-012-0044-0] Leitenberg, H., & Henning, K. (1995). Sexual fantasy. Psychological Bulletin, 117(3), 469–496. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.117.3.469 [https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.117.3.469] Lindau, S. T., Schumm, L. P., Laumann, E. O., Levinson, W., O’Muircheartaigh, C. A., & Waite, L. J. (2007). A study of sexuality and health among older adults. New England Journal of Medicine, 357(8), 762–774. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa067423 [https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa067423] Muise, A., Schimmack, U., & Impett, E. A. (2016). Sexual frequency predicts greater well-being. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 7(4), 295–302. https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550615616462 [https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550615616462] Perel, E. (2006). Mating in captivity: Unlocking erotic intelligence. HarperCollins.   Contact Information: Find Murder of Crones on You Tube, Tik Tok, Facebook and Instagram.  Email : mofcrones@gmail.com [mofcrones@gmail.com]   Special Thanks to www.dinnissendesign.com [http://www.dinnissendesign.com] for Zabrina’s use of their show room for recording. Check them out for all your interior design needs. Dinnissen Design is located in Vancouver and Castlegar BC.

E14 Sex Myths, Part 1

Join our hosts as Zabrina leads Kori and Jen in part one of this compelling conversation around Sexual Myths. Discover how myths shape our understanding of desire, intimacy, and aging in long-term relationships. Listen along as we explore cultural narratives, scientific insights, and personal experiences that challenge common assumptions about sexuality at every life stage.   Show Notes Key Topics: * The myth that love automatically sustains desire and how desire evolves over time * How societal and cultural views on aging impact sexuality for women and men * The difference between spontaneous and responsive desire and its implications * Why frequency of sex does not equate to relationship health * How to navigate changes in desire during major life transitions like parenthood and menopause * The role of fantasy, distance, and novelty in maintaining eroticism * The importance of open communication and challenging societal myths around aging, sex, and desirability Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction to myths about long-term sexuality and desire 02:06 - How desire shifts with age and life changes 03:10 - The myth of maintaining desire through constant effort 05:15 - Scientific insights: spontaneous vs. responsive desire 08:22 - The truth about frequency and relationship satisfaction 12:42 - Myths about aging and the stereotypes of sexuality in older adults 15:15 - Cultural narratives and media representation of older sexuality 20:05 - How societal ageism impacts women's and men's desire 24:00 - The importance of communication and seeking help early 29:00 - Embracing change in desire and redefining intimacy 33:00 - Parenthood, children, and their effects on sexual intimacy 41:41 - Challenging the idea that aging ends eroticism 45:28 - The significance of intentionality and creating space for desire 50:34 - Moving beyond myths: embracing evolving sexuality at every age  References:                                                                                                                         Basson, R. (2001). Using a different model for female sexual response to address women’s problematic low sexual desire. Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 27(5), 395–403. https://doi.org/10.1080/009262301753148637 [https://doi.org/10.1080/009262301753148637] Baumeister, R. F., Catanese, K. R., & Vohs, K. D. (2001). Is there a gender difference in strength of sex drive? Personality and Social Psychology Review, 5(3), 242–273. https://doi.org/10.1207/S15327957PSPR0503_5 [https://doi.org/10.1207/S15327957PSPR0503_5] Bogaert, A. F. (2004). Asexuality: Prevalence and associated factors. The Journal of Sex Research, 41(3), 279–287. https://doi.org/10.1080/00224490409552235 [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224490409552235] Hamilton, L. D., & Meston, C. M. (2013). Chronic stress and sexual function in women. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 42(7), 1349–1359. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-012-0044-0 [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-012-0044-0] Leitenberg, H., & Henning, K. (1995). Sexual fantasy. Psychological Bulletin, 117(3), 469–496. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.117.3.469 [https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-2909.117.3.469] Lindau, S. T., Schumm, L. P., Laumann, E. O., Levinson, W., O’Muircheartaigh, C. A., & Waite, L. J. (2007). A study of sexuality and health among older adults. New England Journal of Medicine, 357(8), 762–774. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa067423 [https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa067423] Muise, A., Schimmack, U., & Impett, E. A. (2016). Sexual frequency predicts greater well-being. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 7(4), 295–302. https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550615616462 [https://doi.org/10.1177/1948550615616462] Perel, E. (2006). Mating in captivity: Unlocking erotic intelligence. HarperCollins.   Contact Information: Find Murder of Crones on You Tube, Tik Tok, Facebook and Instagram.  Email : mofcrones@gmail.com [mofcrones@gmail.com]   Special Thanks to www.dinnissendesign.com [http://www.dinnissendesign.com] for Zabrina’s use of their show room for recording. Check them out for all your interior design needs. Dinnissen Design is located in Vancouver and Castlegar BC.

E13 The Matilda Effect, As If!

This week we discuss the disturbingly frequent occurrence of men taking credit for women’s academic, scientific, and entrepreneurial work. It’s so common, in fact, that the phenomenon has a name : The Matilda Effect. Join us as we explore this topic and look at some of the notable women who have had their work stolen. Let’s give credit back to these amazing inventors and creators.    Show Notes Key Topics: * Women in science and art who were erased or underrecognized * The Matilda effect and gender bias in history * Stories of women like Hedy Lamarr, Mary Curie, and Artemisia Gentileschi * The importance of acknowledging women's contributions to science and culture Chapters: 00:00 Trolls and Feedback: Embracing Criticism 00:12 The Matilda Effect: Women in Science 04:47 Introduction to the Podcast Theme 04:58 Introduction and Light Banter 05:08 Historical Context and Examples of the Matilda Effect 07:56 The Matilda Effect and Historical Erasure 10:01 Women in Science: Unrecognized Contributions 12:50 The Legacy of Muleva Maric 15:41 Hollywood's Role in Highlighting Women's Contributions 17:19 Hedy Lamarr: Beauty and Brilliance 20:29 The Underappreciation of Women in History 23:04 The Impact of Role Models on Women in STEM 25:46 Artistic Contributions of Women: Artemisia Gentileschi 28:17 The Struggles of Female Artists and Writers 31:10 The Fight for Recognition and Credit 34:08 The Legacy of Women in Arts and Literature 44:36 Introduction and Context of the Conversation 44:51 The Impact of Social Media and Audience Engagement 47:27 Celebrating Women in Journalism: Nellie Bly 50:24 Athletic Achievements and Gender Inequality: Allison Felix 52:14 Historical Erasure and the Matilda Effect 55:06 The Role of Men in Feminism and Acknowledgment of Contributions   References: Abrahams, Harold Maurice. “Allyson Felix | Medals, Olympics, Biography, Nike, & Facts.” Britannica, 10 January 2026, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Allyson-Felix. Accessed 9 February 2026. Cobb, Mathew, and Nathaniel Comfort. “What Rosalind Franklin Truly Contributed to the Discovery of DNA's Structure.” Nature, Springer Nature, 25 4 2023, https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01313-5. Gage, Matilda Joslyn. “Woman as an Inventor.” Ester Lianawati, Northern University of Iowa, 17 October 2019, https://esterlianawati.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/woman-as-inventor.pdf. Accessed 31 January 2026. Gage, Matilda Joslyn. “Woman as Inventor.” Collection Development Department, New York, Harvard Library, 1870, Persistent Link https://nrs.lib.harvard.edu/urn-3:fhcl:453551 Description Gage, Matilda Joslyn. Woman as inventor. [New York State?: s.n.], 1870. Repository Collection Development Department. Widener Library. HCL Institution Harvard University Accessed 01 . Gagnon, Pauline. “The Forgotten Life of Einstein’s First Wife, Mileva Marić.” Scientific American, 19 December 2016, https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/guest-blog/the-forgotten-life-of-einsteins-first-wife/. Accessed 1 February 2026. Kaplan, Judith. “Francis Crick, Rosalind Franklin, James Watson, and Maurice Wilkins.” Science History Institute, 8 September 2025, https://www.sciencehistory.org/education/scientific-biographies/francis-crick-rosalind-franklin-james-watson-and-maurice-wilkins/. Accessed 31 January 2026. Krichbaum, Emily. “Alice Ball.” National Women's History Museum, https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/alice-ball. Kuiper, Kathleen, and Jennifer Birkett. “Colette | French Writer & Feminist Icon.” Britannica, 24 January 2026, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Colette. Accessed 10 February 2026. Lamm, Lisa. “The Matilda Effect: How Women Are Becoming Invisible in Science.” Lost Women of Science, 10 February 2023, https://www.lostwomenofscience.org/news-events/the-matilda-effect-how-women-are-becoming-invisible-in-science. Accessed 31 January 2026. Lee, Jane J. “6 Women Scientists Who Were Snubbed Due to Sexism.” National Geographic, National Geographic Society, 19 May 2013. Light, Jennifer S. “The Role of Women in Early Computing: Pioneers Who Shaped the Digital Age.” pcfly.info, Technology and Culture, https://pcfly.info/doc/Computers/18.pdf. “Matilda effect.” Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_effect. Accessed 31 January 2026. “Nellie Bly | Biography & Around the World in Seventy-two Days.” Britannica, 23 January 2026, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Nellie-Bly. Accessed 9 February 2026. Stevens, Nettie. “Nettie Stevens.” Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nettie_Stevens. Accessed 31 January 2026. Tsaleza, Anastasia. “Women Artists' Works Misattributed to Men.” DailyArt Magazine, 29 December 2025, https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/women-artists-works-misattributed/. Accessed 10 February 2026. Contact Information: Find Murder of Crones on You Tube, Tik Tok, Facebook and Instagram.  Email : mofcrones@gmail.com [mofcrones@gmail.com]   Special Thanks to www.dinnissendesign.com [http://www.dinnissendesign.com] for Zabrina’s use of their show room for recording. Check them out for all your interior design needs. Dinnissen Design is located in Vancouver and Castlegar BC.