Navigating The 4 Podcast

Biblical Character Draft (Season 3, Episode 4)

Planting a church in New York City isn’t for the faint of heart. It takes vision, resilience, leadership, and a team that can navigate complexity, culture, and challenge. In this episode, the hosts of Navigating the 4 take a creative approach and hold a Biblical Character Draft—selecting people from Scripture they would want on their team if they were planting a church in one of the most influential and demanding cities in the world. Along the way, we explore what these biblical figures teach us about leadership, teamwork, courage, generosity, and faithfulness in ministry.

Under Pressure: Navigating Life Through Challenges (Season 3, Episode 3)

Join the hosts of Navigating the 4 for this podcast, as they dive into the art of handling pressure and overcoming life’s toughest challenges. From unexpected obstacles to high-stakes moments, we explore practical strategies to stay calm, focused, and resilient when life pushes back. Whether you’re facing career pressures, personal struggles, or everyday stress, this conversation will give you tools to navigate the storm with confidence and clarity.

The Way Of The Shepherd Part 1 (Season 3, Episode 2)

What does leading and shepherding have in common? Join the hosts of Navigating the 4, as they explore three principles from the book The Way of the Shepherd by Dr. Kevin Leman and William Pentak—and unpack how shepherd-style leadership transforms the way we communicate, influence, and care for others. Through the lens of communication, faith, leadership, and mental health, we discuss how these shepherding principles apply to businesses, organizations, churches, and families.

Communicating Across Generations (Season 3, Episode 1)

Join the hosts of Navigating the 4 for this episode, as we explore one of the biggest challenges and greatest opportunities of our time: Communicating Across Generations. From Boomers to Gen Z (and everyone in between), each generation brings its own values, assumptions, communication styles, and expectations to the table. But what happens when those differences create misunderstanding instead of connection? Throughout this episode, we discuss why generational miscommunication happens, how leaders can adapt without compromising their convictions, how faith calls us to listen before we speak, and how healthy communication directly impacts emotional and relational well-being.

Accidental Pharisees Part 2 (Season 2, Episode 8)

Sometimes without realizing it, we slip into the very role we criticize—becoming the rule-keepers instead of grace-givers. Join the hosts of Navigating the 4 for Part 2 of Accidental Pharisees, as they take a hard look at how binding our own traditions on others and judging those who do things differently can make us look a lot more like Jesus’ antagonists than His followers. Throughout the episode, we will explore how to recognize these traps, why they’re so tempting, and how to refocus our minds on the heart of the gospel, which involves loving God and His people.