No Matter With Lillian & Veronika

The Single Hoop Earring Pandemic With Cassandra

Our guest this week is Cassandra, a soon-to-be Doctor of Psychology who recently defended her thesis on alternative masculinities. We talk about what that actually means and, after some legitimate academic discussion, conclude that living your life as the Gone Girl monologue is actually male affirmative care. No Matter is soooo awesome but it's especially awesome when we get a Doctor of Psychology to confirm what Lillian and Veronika have always known, which is that straight men are getting gayer. Source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0891243213503901 [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0891243213503901)]

A Quick Psychotic Break With Dr. K

Our guest today is Dr. K, who's currently finishing her residency in psychiatry and is therefore perfectly qualified to chat with your two neurotic hosts. We ask her about the long-term safety of SSRIs, why she hates benzos, TikToks that try to diagnose you with autism and ADHD, the mistreatment of pregnant patients and women's health in general, her favorite psychotherapy modalities, and, finally, whether we're all gonna be okay. If you've ever thought that there's no way you could be helped and that things will never get better inside your little brain, this is the episode for you <3

Parasocial Activity

After some conversational nonstarters involving Veronika's chicken soup and new hair oil, we get into the real meat and potatoes of Billie Eilish's Justin Bieber fandom (as recently exhibited at Coachella) and the terrifying underbelly of the Hailey Bieber snark subreddit. If you think it's ironic of us to be analysing parasocial relationships between A-list celebrities while speculating on the health and hygiene of the Biebers' marriage, then clearly you're new to the pod. Enjoy <3

Spaaaaaaaaah on the Poooooooood With Courtney Wittich

Today we are joined by Courtney Wittich, the iconic mastermind behind S.P.A., the premier online and irl bathing community for cool girls (guys, gays, theys, etc) the world over. We chat about Courtney's spiritual connection to water quite literally from her conception through to today, including Semester at Sea (!), her hot spring wedding, her career journey from fashion girl to ethereal spa queen, how sobriety strengthened her connection to water, and lots more. As soon as the No Matter girls attended one of S.P.A.'s meetups, we knew we wanted Courtney on the pod, so we hope you enjoy listening!! Follow S.P.A. and Courtney here: https://salusperaquam.substack.com/ https://www.instagram.com/spaaaaaaaaah/ [https://www.instagram.com/spaaaaaaaaah/]

In the John Wilkes DJ Booth

Topics this week include Jack Harlow (he be reading!), D.A.R.E.'s need for a brand refresh, Panic! At The Disco's banger But It's Better If You Do, Lifetime movies as harm reduction, pandering as a court charge... and, after all this, Lillian returns a lost puppy.