Nobody Should Believe Me

S07 E02: What Happened to Knowellan Kelly?

After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in Take Care of Maya–claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated.  *** Vote for us for the Webby's People's Voice Award: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/best-indie-podcast Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster [https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster] Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/] View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI] For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

S07 E01: The Catalyst

Welcome to Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments.  How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children? Featuring: * Ethen Shapiro, Attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital *** Listen to our 4-part recap of the Kowalski Case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisiting-kowalski-part-one-the-turn/id1615637188?i=1000750439578 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisiting-kowalski-part-one-the-turn/id1615637188?i=1000750439578] Listen to our season 3 coverage of the Kowalski Case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188] Listen to Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins Trial: https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199 [https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199] Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster [https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster] Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/] View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI] For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/ [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

Season 7 Trailer

Season 7 of the groundbreaking true crime podcast Nobody Should Believe Me investigates why so many Americans believe doctors are “medically kidnapping” children from innocent parents. Florida man John Stewart insists he was falsely accused of the murder of 15-month-old Knowellan Kelly—a story media outlets and documentary filmmakers have echoed in sympathetic portrayals. But a months-long investigation into the case, including interviews with the doctors involved and with Stewart himself, reveals a far more complicated story of violence, deception, and injustice. Season 7 asks the questions others didn’t: what really happened to Knowellan Kelly? As the season unfolds, Stewart’s case leads us into a disturbing ecosystem of parents who claim they were falsely accused of abuse, alongside fringe medical experts and hardline parents’ rights activists. Together, they are fueling conspiracy theories about “evil” child abuse pediatricians and successfully advocating for laws that undermine child abuse investigations and weaken protections for vulnerable children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

Revisiting Kowalski Part Four: The Aftermath

In this final recap episode, we revisit the final months of Maya Kowalski’s sheltering at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital and the tragic events that followed. While the dependency case and abuse investigation continued, tensions within the Kowalski family were escalating. After a difficult court hearing in January 2017, Beata Kowalski died by suicide, leaving behind emails asking others to “take care of Maya”. Following Beata’s death, Maya was eventually released to her father’s custody, where she continued to improve and was able to return to school without further ketamine treatment. In the years that followed, the Kowalski family filed a lawsuit against the hospital that would ultimately lead to a high-profile trial, widespread media coverage, and the Netflix documentary Take Care of Maya. *** Just a note that today’s episode includes mention and description of suicide. If you or someone you know needs help please call 988 or visit 988lifeline.org [http://988lifeline.org] *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster [https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster] Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/].  Click here [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books here [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI].  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

Revisiting Kowalski Part Three: The Breaking Point

In the third part of our Kowalski recap, Andrea walks through the events that led to Maya’s hospitalization and what hospital staff observed in those first days. As doctors quickly became concerned about both Maya’s condition and the unusual treatments she had been receiving, the hospital brought in a child abuse pediatrician and an investigation into possible medical child abuse began.  *** Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster [https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster] Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy [https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/].  Click here [https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/] to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod] where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop [https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/] Buy Andrea's books here [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI].  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com [https://www.munchausensupport.com/] The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here [https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]