Tending Our Roots

Leanne Betasamosake Simpson — “The Coexistence of Creation and Grief”

This week we’re Tending Our Roots with Leanne Betasamosake Simpson, a Michi Saagiig Nishnaabeg writer, musician, and scholar.  Leanne teaches through story, song, and movement — reminding us that knowledge lives in relationships. In her newest book, Theory of Water, she writes through creation and grief, showing how both are part of life’s continuous flow. Our own conversation with her moved like water — joyful, nurturing, and deeply rooted in Anishinaabe thought and Anishinaabe way of life. Leanne calls on us to skill up in care, accountability, and conflict resolution, teaching that deep care is a precursor to world-making. For her, creation and grief coexist, guiding how we build, live, and love together.  Interested in learning more after our conversation? You can purchase Leanne’s latest book Theory of Water at Haymarket Books [https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2533-theory-of-water] and listen to her latest album Live Like the Sky on Bandcamp [https://leannesimpson.bandcamp.com/album/live-like-the-sky] or any streaming service.      Tending Our Roots is co-hosted by Drs. Miigis Gonzalez [https://cih.jhu.edu/team/miigis-gonzalez/] (Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe) and Jill Fish [https://www.fishpsychotherapy.com/] (lineal descendent of the Tuscarora Nation).   This podcast was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation [https://www.rwjf.org/] and supported by the CIRCLE P50 Center of Excellence [https://cih.jhu.edu/circle/] funded through the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health (Award Number P50DA058619). The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health.  Production was completed by Solar Powered Studios in St. Paul, MN.  Podcast artwork was completed by Marlena Myles [https://marlenamyl.es/], a Spirit Lake Dakota, Mohegan, Muscogee artist.   The song, “The Best of Me” is used with the permission of Anishinaabe and First Nations singer-songwriter, Leonard Sumner [https://www.leonardsumner.com/].

Michael Migizi Sullivan — “Speaking Our Languages Shamelessly, Unapologetically, and Fearlessly”

Join Tending Our Roots with Michael “Migizi” Sullivan Sr., a linguist, researcher, educator and storyteller from the Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe Nation.  Migizi is a leading practitioner devoted to the revitalization of the Ojibwe language and a father of four proficient Ojibwe speakers. He reminds us that language is more than words — it’s ceremony, humor, and connection. In this episode, Migizi inspires us to speak our languages shamelessly, unapologetically, and fearlessly. At the heart of the conversation is our asemaa, the spiritual currency of Ojibwe People, and the sacred responsibility language carries. Through laughter and story, he calls on us to re-normalize our languages in daily, fun, and communal ways. Interested in learning more after our conversation? Listen to Migizi [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-sullivan-phd-a993a683/] talk about his book Plums or Nuts: Ojibwe Stories of Anishinaabe Humor [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi2ap6byawo], which can be purchased here [https://shop.mnhs.org/products/plums-or-nuts]. You can explore more of his work below: * Montana OPI Indian Education Division.  Reclaiming of Anishinaabemowin (Ojibwe) with Dr. Michael Sullivan. https://youtu.be/IInjIxKlxmw?si=hedCaTk1zMbuVtyl [https://youtu.be/IInjIxKlxmw?si=hedCaTk1zMbuVtyl]. 2025. * NPR How to do Everything: Yes we pecan with Martha Stewart. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/1256914738/martha-sun [https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/1256914738/martha-sun]. 2024. * Native Lights: Where indigenous voices shine. Teaching language learners in the modern-day classroom. https://minnesotanativenews.org/dr-michael-migizi-sullivan-teaching-language-learners-in-the-modern-day-classroom%ef%bf%bc/ [https://minnesotanativenews.org/dr-michael-migizi-sullivan-teaching-language-learners-in-the-modern-day-classroom%EF%BF%BC/]. 2024. * Enweying- Our Sound. S2E4: Dr. Michael Migizi Sullivan Sr. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s2e4-migizi-dr-michael-migizi-sullivan-sr/id1569993387?i=1000661143487 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s2e4-migizi-dr-michael-migizi-sullivan-sr/id1569993387?i=1000661143487]. 2024. * Bkejwanong Anishinaabemowin.  Da-bi-azhegiiwemagak Gegaa Gaa-wanising: The Reclaiming of Anishinaabemowin. https://youtu.be/y4U47dRbZ64?si=keQ_CxrP4CHytiIE [https://ttps//youtu.be/y4U47dRbZ64?si=keQ_CxrP4CHytiIE]. 2022. * KAXE/Northern Community Radio: The power of story in Ojibwe language and culture. https://www.kaxe.org/show/91-7-kaxe-90-5-kbxe-morning-show/2022-02-25/the-power-of-story-in-ojibwe-language-and-culture-michael-migizi-sullivan [https://www.kaxe.org/show/91-7-kaxe-90-5-kbxe-morning-show/2022-02-25/the-power-of-story-in-ojibwe-language-and-culture-michael-migizi-sullivan].  2022. * The Celtic Junction.  The Power of Indigenous Languages. https://youtu.be/5IDG6mgJsuE?si=EkqkdQeCrJbEPCZI [https://youtu.be/5IDG6mgJsuE?si=EkqkdQeCrJbEPCZI]. 2022. Tending Our Roots is co-hosted by Drs. Miigis Gonzalez [https://cih.jhu.edu/team/miigis-gonzalez/] (Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe) and Jill Fish [https://www.fishpsychotherapy.com/] (lineal descendent of the Tuscarora Nation).  This podcast was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation [https://www.rwjf.org/] and supported by the CIRCLE P50 Center of Excellence [https://cih.jhu.edu/circle/] funded through the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health (Award Number P50DA058619). The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health. Production was completed by Solar Powered Studios in St. Paul, MN. Podcast artwork was completed by Marlena Myles [https://marlenamyl.es/], a Spirit Lake Dakota, Mohegan, Muscogee artist.  The song, “The Best of Me” is used with the permission of Anishinaabe and First Nations singer-songwriter, Leonard Sumner [https://www.leonardsumner.com/].

Sharon Day — “The River Talks to Me”

Welcome to Tending Our Roots with Sharon Day, a two-spirit elder from the Bois Forte Band of Ojibwe.  Sharon is a water walker, artist, and activist whose life’s work is rooted in ceremony and love for all our relations. As the longtime Executive Director of the Indigenous Peoples Task Force, she’s spent decades nurturing community health and Indigenous resurgence through culture and prayer. She’s led more than twenty water walks across Turtle Island — carrying water from the Gulf of Mexico to Lake Superior. She finds deep joy tending to her chickens and all forms of life at her farm. In this episode, Sharon shares what it means to walk with the water — to listen, to pray, and to move through the world as a force for life and renewal.  Interested in learning more about Sharon’s work after our conversation? Check out the Indigenous Peoples Task Force [https://indigenouspeoplestf.org/] and Nibi Walk [https://www.nibiwalk.org/].     Tending Our Roots is co-hosted by Drs. Miigis Gonzalez [https://cih.jhu.edu/team/miigis-gonzalez/] (Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe) and Jill Fish [https://www.fishpsychotherapy.com/] (lineal descendent of the Tuscarora Nation).   This podcast was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation [https://www.rwjf.org/] and supported by the CIRCLE P50 Center of Excellence [https://cih.jhu.edu/circle/] funded through the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health (Award Number P50DA058619). The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health.  Production was completed by Solar Powered Studios in St. Paul, MN.  Podcast artwork was completed by Marlena Myles [https://marlenamyl.es/], a Spirit Lake Dakota, Mohegan, Muscogee artist.   The song, “The Best of Me” is used with the permission of Anishinaabe and First Nations singer-songwriter, Leonard Sumner [https://www.leonardsumner.com/].

Charlie Amáyá Scott — “Choosing and Loving Ourselves”

Note: This episode was recorded when Amáyá was using the name Charlie. You’ll hear us refer to her as Charlie throughout the episode; however, she now goes by Amáyá, as reflected below. We're kicking off this season of Tending Our Roots with guest Amáyá Scott, a Diné scholar, writer, and creator who is dedicated to inspiring joy and justice.  Amáyá reflects and celebrates what it means to be Diné, queer, and trans in the 21st century — sharing her brilliance and humor with thousands online as @dineaesthetics [https://www.instagram.com/dineaesthetics/]. When we met with Amáyá, a summer storm rolled through, thunder shaking the walls as we laughed and talked all afternoon. In this episode, she speaks about leaving academia, living in community, and the daily practice of choosing and loving herself. For Amáyá, love is abundance — found in quiet mornings, soft laughter, and the courage to be fully who you are. Interested in learning more after our conversation? Check out more of Amáyá’s work at https://dineaesthetics.com/ [https://dineaesthetics.com/]   Tending Our Roots is co-hosted by Drs. Miigis Gonzalez [https://cih.jhu.edu/team/miigis-gonzalez/] (Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe) and Jill Fish [https://www.fishpsychotherapy.com/] (lineal descendent of the Tuscarora Nation).   This podcast was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation [https://www.rwjf.org/] and supported by the CIRCLE P50 Center of Excellence [https://cih.jhu.edu/circle/] funded through the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health (Award Number P50DA058619). The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health.  Production was completed by Solar Powered Studios in St. Paul, MN.  Podcast artwork was completed by Marlena Myles [https://marlenamyl.es/], a Spirit Lake Dakota, Mohegan, Muscogee artist.   The song, “The Best of Me” is used with the permission of Anishinaabe and First Nations singer-songwriter, Leonard Sumner [https://www.leonardsumner.com/].

Welcome to Tending Our Roots with Indigenous Methodologies

Welcome to Tending Our Roots with Indigenous Methodologies, a podcast exploring Indigenous approaches to research, evaluation, and community practice. Come join us each week as we visit with guests to talk about how Indigenous Knowledges and ways of being support the health, healing, and futures of Indigenous communities.    Tending Our Roots is co-hosted by Drs. Miigis Gonzalez [https://cih.jhu.edu/team/miigis-gonzalez/] (Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe) and Jill Fish [https://www.fishpsychotherapy.com/] (lineal descendent of the Tuscarora Nation).   This podcast was funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation [https://www.rwjf.org/] and supported by the CIRCLE P50 Center of Excellence [https://cih.jhu.edu/circle/] funded through the National Institute on Drug Abuse of the National Institutes of Health (Award Number P50DA058619). The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health.  Production was completed by Solar Powered Studios in St. Paul, MN.  Podcast artwork was completed by Marlena Myles [https://marlenamyl.es/], a Spirit Lake Dakota, Mohegan, Muscogee artist.   The song, “The Best of Me” is used with the permission of Anishinaabe and First Nations singer-songwriter, Leonard Sumner [https://www.leonardsumner.com/].