The Chief Exchange

A Second Chance: From Deathbed to Fire Captain and CRACKYL Magazine Founder (with Kory Pearn) Ep|117

Kory Pearn never set out to start a media company. A fire captain with over two decades in the fire service, his journey into building Crackyl Magazine came after a life altering moment that forced him to confront everything he had built. After nearly losing his life to congestive heart failure, Kory found himself questioning his identity, his pace of life, and the sustainability of how he was living. In an instant, everything he had could have been taken away, including the very things he was working so hard to protect. In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Kory shares how that experience reframed everything. We talk about firefighter wellness, why you do not just get lucky in life, and how you must prepare and control what you can before it is too late. He explains the danger of building a life you cannot slow down, why what you are not changing you are choosing, and how dedication without sustainability becomes self destruction disguised as commitment. We also dive into actionable steps for building something on the side while still working in public safety, the importance of curiosity and tenacity, and why you just have to start instead of waiting for the perfect moment. From stoicism and maintaining your why, to managing the balance between work and home life, to even a soft launch of his upcoming book, this conversation is about perspective, discipline, and building a life that can withstand anything, because what you try to avoid may still happen anyway.

What Most Leaders Get Wrong and How to Make It Right (with Steven Locke) Ep|116

Chief Steven Locke has spent nearly four decades in the fire service, rising from a teenager hanging around the firehouse with his father to leading three different departments and serving in national leadership with the International Association of Fire Chiefs. Along the way, he learned that leadership is less about making every decision and more about empowering others to make them. In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Chief Locke shares what most leaders get wrong about leadership and why every chief must evolve from being a micromanager to empowering their team. We discuss the lessons learned from leading three very different departments, what it feels like to supervise former peers after a promotion, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who tell you what you need to hear rather than what you want to hear. Chief Locke also reflects on the power of handwritten notes, thanking the people who helped you along the way, separating work stress from your personal life so you can sleep at night, and recognizing when it is time to step aside and let the next generation lead. From saving today for the you tomorrow to learning how to ease up on the gas pedal and enjoy the journey, this conversation is a powerful reflection on leadership, legacy, and finishing a career by lifting others up.

From Police Chief to Mayor and What You Can Learn from Jelly Bellys (with John Carli) Ep|115

Mayor John Carli’s career began with a simple sentence from someone he had just met: “You’d be a really good cop.” That one comment planted a seed that would grow into a 32 year career in policing, rising from officer to Chief of Police and eventually becoming Mayor of the very city he once protected. His story is a powerful reminder that seeds planted today can grow into trees 30 years later. In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Mayor Carli shares the lesson that shaped his life: it is better to be prepared for the opportunity that never happens than to be unprepared for the one right in front of you. We talk about the importance of education and being a lifelong learner, why Chiefs must remain apolitical, and how any day as Chief could be your last. He reflects on leading through national unrest, standing firm on principle in a meeting with the President of the United States, and why words must always be backed by action. From relationship building and knowing your why to living in a three dimensional world reduced to two dimensions through media and social media, this conversation challenges leaders to take a stand, stay humble, think less about themselves, and focus more on climbing mountains instead of ladders.

From Self-Employed Entrepreneur to California Highway Patrol Commissioner (with Sean Duryee) Ep|114

Commissioner Sean Duryee did not begin his career aiming to lead the largest state policing agency in the nation. A former Army infantryman and small business owner, he joined the California Highway Patrol seeking camaraderie, service, and purpose. Nearly three decades later, after doing the job in front of him with excellence and embracing assignments he never planned on taking, he was unexpectedly appointed Commissioner. In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Commissioner Duryee reflects on how CHP has evolved over the past 30 years, from simple radio systems to advanced in car technology and modern policing tools. He shares why intelligence matters far less than work ethic, why doing a good job where you are opens doors you never saw coming, and why some of the most career shaping assignments are the ones you are not excited about at first. We discuss CHP recruits, why college athletes and military veterans are strong talent pools, and the biggest lesson he learned from coaching high school varsity basketball. From building confidence in leaders who hesitate to take the shot to savoring every season of your career, this conversation is about humility, discipline, growth, and enjoying the journey while you are in it.

$400M in Federal Grant Funding: Learn How to Position Your Department to Win Your Share (with Cornelia Sigworth) Ep|113

Cornelia Sigworth spent 26 years inside the U.S. Department of Justice, rising to Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to the Director, overseeing hundreds of millions of dollars in public safety funding across the country. Today, as Senior Director of Strategic Engagement at Axon, she continues shaping the field through leadership development, peer learning, and strategic violent crime reduction. In this episode of The Chief Exchange, Cornelia breaks down how departments can dramatically increase their win rates for federal grant funding, why most grants get denied, and how data and scoring criteria truly drive decisions behind the scenes. She explains how applications are evaluated, what peer reviewers are actually looking for, and why simply not reading the instructions disqualifies many agencies. We also discuss the real challenges first line supervisors face that chiefs may not realize, how miscommunication about “the why” erodes culture, and how to fix those breakdowns. From peer to peer learning exchanges to building measurable violent crime reduction strategies, Cornelia shares why many department initiatives fail and what it takes to execute with discipline, clarity, and accountability.