The Herd is Calling

The Universal Law of Connection: Why Your Presence (Not Your Power) Changes Everything

🦄 Welcome to ‘The Herd Is Calling Podcast’! Before we get started, a quick question for you, “have you subscribed to our [FREE] Substack community?” [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] It’s the official home of 🎙️'The Herd is Calling' AND newsletter ✍🏼‘The Healing With Horses Compass.’ When you join you’ll get free access to the 🎙️podcast and ✍🏼 newsletter, covering methods, philosophy, personal stories, plus behind the scenes podcast content. 🦄 Don't miss out on the latest episodes, and BONUS exclusive content you won’t find anywhere else! Including full video versions of every podcast episode! 👉🏼 Click THIS LINK TO SUBSCRIBE [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]—it’s easy and totally free. See you on the inside! PS—Are you a coach or therapist interested in a fresh approach to the emerging field of Equine Assisted Healing? If so, we have a special gift for you: Download our First Session Template & discover how to build rapport, safety, & trust on day one, without overwhelming your client and horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time—Check out a new approach to first sessions, no matter your experience level. https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869Get Your First Session Template Here! [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869] This Episode: 🎙The Universal Law of Connection: Why Your Presence (Not Your Power) Changes Everything Every muscle in a horse—and a human—holds a story. What happens when we learn to listen? What if your presence—not your power—is the real source of transformation?In this episode, we dive into the heart of relational horsemanship with Josh Nichol, exploring the subtle frequency beneath connection, the true meaning of leadership, and how horses can become mirrors for healing the stories we carry in our bodies. If you’ve ever felt like “doing more” wasn’t the answer—you’re right. This one’s for you. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: ✅ Why every muscle holds a story—and how horses reflect the parts of us we’ve hidden or suppressed. ✅ The Green-Yellow-Red-Gold model—a powerful roadmap for navigating dysregulation, growth, and healing in ourselves and our horses. ✅ The myth of obedience and how shifting from dominance to relationship unlocks true transformation. ✅ How to meditate like a horse—using presence, breath, and frequency to create peace in motion. ✅ Why authenticity is the antidote—and how showing up vulnerably can ripple through generations. ⏳ Episode Breakdown 00:00 | The Healing Space Begins Josh opens with a powerful reflection on presence, energy, and how healing emerges when we honor the space—especially from a place of love. 00:45 | What Every Muscle Holds Josh shares how both horses and humans carry energetic stories in the body, and how connecting to those stories changes everything. 01:55 | The Desire for Relationship Exploring the human longing for connection and the unconscious defense mechanisms that keep us from building true relationships—with ourselves and our horses. 03:00 | Letting Go of Obedience Josh explains how horsemanship becomes transformational when we shift away from obedience and begin to listen to the horse as a relational partner. 04:20 | The Mirror of the Horse How horses reflect our internal state, and why true leadership is about becoming the kind of energy others want to be around—not controlling outcomes. 05:45 | The Inner Journey & Natural Gifting Josh reflects on his early life in remote northern Ontario, the influence of curiosity, and how solitude in nature shaped his path. 07:10 | From Technique to Truth A candid account of how conventional training methods fell short—and how the struggle to work with difficult horses ignited Josh’s quest for deeper understanding. 08:45 | The Universal Language of Connection Introducing the concept of “the way”—an energetic frequency that transcends physical technique and invites authentic connection with all beings. 10:35 | Why People Like Josh When They’re Ready Josh shares how his teachings resonate most with people who are ready to turn inward—not just looking for quick-fix techniques. 12:00 | Green, Yellow, Red… and Gold A fresh model for understanding regulation, growth, and thriving. Gold = when challenge and peace coexist, allowing you to walk through life with empowered presence. 14:45 | The Calling vs. Exhaustion The reason walking in your true calling gives you energy—and how burnout often results from living out of alignment with your deeper purpose. 16:55 | The Ripple Effect of Real Leadership What happens when you lead from authenticity, and how your inner alignment creates outward transformation in people, horses, and community. 18:00 | Community as a Relational Practice Josh discusses how true community is built not around common opinions, but around shared relational principles like trust, empathy, and awareness. 20:20 | How Conflict Reveals the Real Work Conflict isn’t the problem—our triggers are. Josh breaks down how community breaks when we focus on surface-level disagreement instead of deeper self-awareness. 22:00 | Relational Horsemanship in Action Explaining how unmet needs—not disobedience—are the root of most horse behavior, and how honoring that transforms everything. Learn more about Josh Nichol here: Josh's Website [https://joshnichol.com/] Josh's YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBoi0b_HuEg] Don’t Miss Other Episodes (& articles!) — 👉🏼Subscribe to The Herd is Calling on Substack [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe] for behind-the-scenes stories and unique content. Join the movement exploring the art, science, and wonder of horse-human connections! 🐴✨ -💜 Subscribe Now! PS—When You're Ready... Ready to lead your first equine-assisted healing session? Download our First Session Template—discover how to build rapport, safety, & trust on day one, without overwhelming your client and horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time—Check out a new approach to first sessions, no matter your experience level. https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869Get Your First Session Template Here! [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit myhorsejourney.substack.com [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

“They Know When You Know”: The Secret Language of Horses

🦄 Join the Movement—The Herd Is Calling. Before we dive in, have you subscribed to our https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/FREE Substack community [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] yet? It’s the official home of:🎙️ The Herd is Calling Podcast✍🏼 The Healing With Horses Compass Newsletter When you subscribe, you’ll get:✅ Instant access to every podcast episode✅ Exclusive behind-the-scenes content you won’t find anywhere else✅ Full video versions of every episode 👉🏼 [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/]Subscribe now—it’s fast, free, and your ticket to a deeper conversation. [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] 🐴 For Coaches & Therapists: We’ve got something special for you: Download our First Session Template—a simple, trauma-informed framework to build trust and safety from day one, without overwhelming yourself, your clients, or the horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time! Grab it now and set the foundation for impactful equine-assisted sessions. [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/first-session-template-register] “They Know When You Know”: The Secret Language of Horses & Humans Before fight, flight, or freeze, horses scan for one thing: Who is paying attention? Attunement—not technique—determines whether your horse sees you as a safe place or just another unpredictable human. In this episode, Warwick Schiller breaks down why presence matters more than pressure, how perception shapes reality, and what horses (and people) are really responding to. 🌿 In This Episode, You’ll Discover: ✅ Why attunement is the missing key—how horses respond to your inner state, not just your techniques. ✅ The invisible language of presence—why horses instantly trust some people and disconnect from others. ✅ How self-awareness rewires everything—from your horsemanship to your relationships and leadership. ✅ What your horse feels before you move—the neuroscience of non-verbal communication and embodied energy. ✅ The universal power of attunement—how deep listening transforms connection with horses, people, and yourself. ✅ The ‘Black Belt’ of Horsemanship—why mastery isn’t about learning more, but about seeing with new eyes. ✅ Horses, trauma, and nervous system regulation—how safety and connection influence everything. ✅ How Warwick’s greatest lessons came from not knowing—the horse that challenged everything he thought he understood. ✅ Why leadership—on the ground or in life—isn’t about control, but about awareness. ✅ The surprising way a small shift in energy can change everything—from a horse that won’t lead to a child struggling with connection. ✅ Why most training methods skip the horse’s first instinct—not fight or flight, but seeking a friend. ✅ The hidden intelligence of horses—could they actually be guiding us toward consciousness? ✅ What it means to ‘balance, not find balance’—the mindset shift that changes everything. ✅ How a single conversation changed a life forever—and the ripple effects of attuned presence. ⏳ Episode Breakdown & Key Moments [00:00:00] | They Know When You Know—Warwick Schiller on attunement, awareness, and why presence matters more than technique. [00:01:24] | Meet Warwick Schiller—his story, his journey, and the philosophy that reshaped his approach to horses and life. [00:03:08] | The one thing that separates great horsemen from the rest (hint: it’s not technique). [00:07:55] | The ‘Black Belt’ of Horsemanship—why true mastery means relearning from a new perspective. [00:15:47] | Balancing vs. Balance—Warwick’s game-changing insight on finding harmony in life and horsemanship. [00:27:40] | The moment that changed everything—how one horse cracked Warwick’s perception wide open. [00:36:30] | The Mustang that never slept—how attunement alone transformed a bolting horse. [00:46:00] | The night everything shifted—Warwick’s spontaneous awakening and the conversation that shattered his worldview. [00:51:00] | Vulnerability, Brene Brown, and the power of self-compassion in horsemanship and life. [01:02:00] | How Journey On became a global phenomenon—Warwick’s surprising journey into podcasting. [01:15:00] | The ripple effect—how one conversation changed a life forever. [01:25:00] | Attuned Horsemanship in action—how one small shift made a horse completely relax for the first time in 10 years. [01:39:00] | The hidden intelligence of horses—are they actually guiding us toward consciousness? [01:51:00] | What drives Warwick? A personal story, a calling, and a message he couldn’t ignore. [02:12:00] | Final reflections—how horsemanship, healing, and leadership all come back to the same truth: they know when you know. ABOUT WARWICK SCHILLER: International horse trainer, clinician, and author Warwick Schiller began riding horses on a farm in rural Australia when he was seven years old. Warwick’s modern training philosophy focuses on creating trust and connection between horse and human by emphasizing the importance of the horse’s mental well-being throughout the training process. Having spent most of his life training professional reining horses, he now spends his time solving behavioral issues across disciplines and empowering individuals with the tools and mindsets needed to create their own trusting partnerships with their horses. Since publishing his first training video on Youtube in 2011, Warwick has created a vast online community founded on personal growth, positivity, and a shared passion for the wellbeing of horses. In addition to his online video library with over 800 real-time training videos, Warwick has created The Journey On Podcast, which interviews inspirational horse people from all over the world and shares their stories and mindsets. CHECK OUT ALL THINGS WARWICK BELOW: website www.warwickschiller.com [http://www.warwickschiller.com/] Podcast -The Journey On Podcast Facebook group- Warwick Schiller Attuned Horsemanship Facebook Page- Warwick Schiller’s Attuned Horsemanship Youtube channel-@WarwickSchiller Instagram-warwickschiller Podcast summit- summit.warwickschiller.com [http://summit.warwickschiller.com/] 🔥 Ready to Go Deeper? Join The Herd is Calling [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]—our [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]free Substack community [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe] https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribefor raw reflections, real conversations, and a coalition built on belonging. Subscribe now and step into the next level of horsemanship, healing, and connection. 🎁 For Coaches & Therapists: Want to integrate horses into your work? 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Beyond Technique—The Missing Ingredient in Equine Therapy

🦄 Join the Movement—The Herd Is Calling. Before we dive in, have you subscribed to our https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/FREE Substack community [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] yet? It’s the official home of:🎙️ The Herd is Calling Podcast✍🏼 The Healing With Horses Compass Newsletter When you subscribe, you’ll get:✅ Instant access to every podcast episode✅ Exclusive behind-the-scenes content you won’t find anywhere else✅ Full video versions of every episode 👉🏼 [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/]Subscribe now—it’s fast, free, and your ticket to a deeper conversation. [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] 🐴 For Coaches & Therapists: We’ve got something special for you: Download our First Session Template—a simple, trauma-informed framework to build trust and safety from day one, without overwhelming yourself, your clients, or the horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time! Grab it now and set the foundation for impactful equine-assisted sessions. [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/first-session-template-register] Dr. Veronica Lac, founder of The HERD Institute, challenges traditional norms in favor of a more inclusive, relational approach—one that prioritizes attunement, adaptability, and social equity in healing with horses. 🎧 In This Episode, You’ll Learn: ✅ Why the dominant equine therapy model falls short—and what needs to change✅ How cultural competency shapes the horse-human relationship in ways most practitioners overlook✅ The power of language in equine-facilitated work—why words like “using” horses subtly reinforce outdated hierarchies✅ What it truly means to “partner” with horses—moving beyond tools and techniques to a more ethical, embodied approach✅ How belonging, social justice, and equine therapy intersect—and why this conversation is long overdue ⏳ Episode Breakdown 00:00 | Introduction & WelcomeJosh and Victoria introduce Dr. Veronica Lac and set the stage for a deep conversation about equine therapy beyond technique. 01:55 | Veronica's Personal Journey with HorsesDr. Lac shares her early experiences with horses, the cultural significance of equine relationships, and how her background shaped her approach. 08:17 | The Role of Embodiment in Equine TherapyA discussion on how working with horses is deeply embodied and how this principle shapes The HERD Institute’s model. 12:32 | Cultural Competency & Power Dynamics in HorsemanshipDr. Lac breaks down how cultural experiences shape interactions with horses and why traditional training methods often fail to consider these nuances. 21:14 | Moving Beyond Technique: Why Attunement MattersWhy a flexible, attunement-based approach is more effective than rigid exercises in equine therapy. 31:20 | Horses as Partners, Not ToolsChallenging the dominant mindset of "using" horses and shifting toward a true partnership model. 39:18 | Belonging, Social Justice & Equine TherapyHow systemic change in the industry ties into broader conversations about diversity, inclusion, and social justice. 44:51 | Creating Change: The HERD Institute’s VisionHow The HERD Institute is actively working to shift the paradigm of equine-assisted therapy through education and community building. 51:10 | Final Reflections & How to ConnectDr. Lac shares final thoughts and invites listeners to explore The HERD Institute’s programs, books, and resources. 🔥 Final Thoughts & Call to Action Dr. Veronica Lac doesn’t just challenge the status quo—she offers a roadmap for change. This episode is an invitation to rethink how we engage with horses in therapeutic spaces. Are we truly honoring their agency? Or are we still centering human needs at their expense? 📚 Grab Veronica’s book: Obviously, I'm Not From Here—Embodying a Sense of Belonging with the Help of Horses, It's Not About The Activity—Thinking Outside The Toolbox In Equine-Facilitated Psychotherapy & Learning, & MORE! Get Books Here [https://herdinstitute.com/welcome-herd-institute/books/] 📍 Explore The HERD Institute’s groundbreaking work & Resources: herdinstitute.com [https://www.herdinstitute.com] 🎧 Tune in, join the conversation, and step into a new era of healing, connection, and purpose. 🚀 Ready to go deeper? Join us on [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]The Healing with Horses Compass [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]—our new Substack for raw reflections, real conversations, and a community built on belonging. PS—When You're Ready... Ready to lead your first equine-assisted healing session? Download our First Session Template—discover how to build rapport, safety, & trust on day one, without overwhelming your client and horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time—Check out a new approach to first sessions, no matter your experience level. https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869Get Your First Session Template Here! [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit myhorsejourney.substack.com [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

The Parts We Exile: Cara Gereau, LMFT on Trauma, Somatic Healing, and What Horses Reveal About Our Hidden Selves

🦄 Join the Movement—The Herd Is Calling. Before we dive in, have you subscribed to our https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/FREE Substack community [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] yet? It’s the official home of:🎙️ The Herd is Calling Podcast✍🏼 The Healing With Horses Compass Newsletter When you subscribe, you’ll get:✅ Instant access to every podcast episode✅ Exclusive behind-the-scenes content you won’t find anywhere else✅ Full video versions of every episode 👉🏼 [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/]Subscribe now—it’s fast, free, and your ticket to a deeper conversation. [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] 🐴 For Coaches & Therapists: We’ve got something special for you: Download our First Session Template—a simple, trauma-informed framework to build trust and safety from day one, without overwhelming yourself, your clients, or the horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time! Grab it now and set the foundation for impactful equine-assisted sessions. [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/first-session-template-register] What if the parts of yourself you’ve buried hold the key to your healing? In this episode, we explore how horses—masters of presence—can reveal our hidden wounds and guide us back to wholeness. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: ✅ How the wisdom of horses reveals our unconscious patterns—and helps us heal them .✅ The power of somatic therapy to process trauma—without retelling the story .✅ How to navigate the tension between self-protection and vulnerability with horses .✅ Why groundwork with horses brings up deep relational patterns—and how to move through them .✅ The ripple effect of healing with horses—from personal breakthroughs to collective change . In this illuminating conversation, LMFT and equine-assisted psychotherapist Cara Gereau invites us into the layered world of somatic healing with horses. She shares how the relational feedback from horses brings forward the parts of us we’ve exiled—the ones shaped by trauma, self-protection, and unmet needs. From her personal journey leaving a high-powered corporate career to becoming a healer, to her somatic techniques with clients, Cara offers a deeply resonant look at what happens when we stop performing and start listening—both to our bodies and the horses beside us . ⏳ Episode Breakdown 00:00 | Introduction and WelcomeThe hosts introduce the guest, Cara, and share the theme of today’s episode—resilience and navigating change. 02:15 | Cara’s Journey into Healing WorkCara opens up about her personal story and how life’s challenges led her to become a healer and coach. 07:42 | Overcoming Burnout: Cara’s Turning PointA raw conversation about burnout and how Cara reclaimed her joy. 12:05 | The Role of Horses in Cara’s Healing PracticeCara explains how equine-assisted experiences transformed her approach to trauma healing. 17:18 | Practical Tips for Coaches and TherapistsCara shares three actionable practices for integrating somatic awareness into client sessions. 22:40 | Facing Fear and Building ConfidenceA powerful dialogue on working with fear, both in life and in equine-assisted sessions. 27:03 | Navigating Loss and Grief in a Healing ProfessionCara reflects on how personal losses shaped her empathy and professional approach. 32:25 | The Power of Community in Healing JourneysWhy support networks are essential for practitioners and clients alike. 38:12 | What’s Next for Cara: Vision and Upcoming ProjectsCara reveals her next steps, including a new program launch. 42:50 | Final Thoughts and Where to ConnectThe hosts and Cara share how listeners can join the conversation and get involved. 🎧 Tune in, join the conversation, and step into a new era of healing, connection, and purpose. 🚀 Ready to go deeper? Join us on [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]The Healing with Horses Compass [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]—our new Substack for raw reflections, real conversations, and a community built on belonging. PS—When You're Ready... Ready to lead your first equine-assisted healing session? Download our First Session Template—discover how to build rapport, safety, & trust on day one, without overwhelming your client and horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time—Check out a new approach to first sessions, no matter your experience level. https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869Get Your First Session Template Here! [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit myhorsejourney.substack.com [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

After the Silence: Our 14-Month Journey Through Loss & Growth

🦄 Join the Movement—The Herd Is Calling. Before we dive in, have you subscribed to our FREE Substack community [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] yet? It’s the official home of:🎙️ The Herd is Calling Podcast✍🏼 The Healing With Horses Compass Newsletter When you subscribe, you’ll get:✅ Instant access to every podcast episode✅ Exclusive behind-the-scenes content you won’t find anywhere else✅ Full video versions of every episode 👉🏼 [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/]Subscribe now—it’s fast, free, and your ticket to a deeper conversation. [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/] 🐴 For Coaches & Therapists: We’ve got something special for you: Download our First Session Template—a simple, trauma-informed framework to build trust and safety from day one, without overwhelming yourself, your clients, or the horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time! Grab it now and set the foundation for impactful equine-assisted sessions. [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/first-session-template-register] What happens when life pulls you into the depths of loss, transition, and unexpected change? You emerge—changed. After 14 months away, we’re finally ready to share why we left, what we learned, and why waiting is no longer an option. ✅ How grief and transformation shape the path forward—even when you don’t choose it ✅ The power of Why Wait?—and how it’s reshaping everything we do ✅ The role of community, not just as support, but as a true coalition of belonging ✅ Why stepping away was the only way to step forward We thought we’d be gone for a few weeks. Instead, life unraveled, reassembled, and left us with a deeper understanding of what really matters. This episode is about more than where we’ve been—it’s about the universal experience of change, the kind that forces you to pause, reassess, and step back into the world with a new calling. This isn’t just our story. It’s an invitation—to reflect, to connect, and to move toward what’s calling you…..Why Wait?! ⏳ Episode Breakdown 00:00 | Welcome Back – Our 14-Month JourneyWhy we disappeared, what changed, and why we’re finally back. 00:45 | The Deep Work of Grief & TransitionHow loss, change, and uncertainty shaped our path forward. 01:55 | Expanding Our Vision: Substack & The Healing With Horses CompassWhy we’re moving beyond social media and how you can join us. 05:09 | The Reality of Commuting, Relocation & Life OverhaulHow four hours a day in the car led to a complete lifestyle shift. 08:17 | Returning to Horsemanship: A Transformational Training ExperienceLessons learned from rehabilitating client horses—and ourselves. 12:32 | The MSW Journey: Pursuing Higher Education in Mental HealthWhy Victoria returned to school to deepen her impact in equine-assisted therapy. 17:57 | The Hawaiian Dream That Almost HappenedOur time at Hana Ranch and the opportunity that nearly changed everything. 21:14 | Letting Go: When a Child Leaves HomeThe emotional reality of Jacob’s move and navigating major life transitions. 25:26 | Moving Through Change: The Grief & Growth ParadoxWhy transition isn’t just about loss—but also about expansion. 26:22 | Unexpected Loss & the Weight of GoodbyeThe passing of Pilgrim and Blue—and what it meant for our family. 31:20 | New Paths, New Possibilities: The Power of RebuildingHow we turned obstacles into stepping stones toward something greater. 32:55 | Higher Education, Part Two: The OTD JourneyJosh’s decision to enter an accelerated doctoral program for occupational therapy. 36:40 | A Milestone Moment: James’ College JourneyHow our eldest took a bold step into his future at the University of Oregon. 39:18 | Merging Mental Health & Equine Therapy: A New ApproachHow evidence-based therapeutic techniques integrate with equine-assisted healing. 44:51 | The Ripple Effect of Healing: Why This Work MattersHow one person’s transformation can impact generations to come. 51:10 | The Future of Community & Connection: Why We Can’t WaitThe importance of building coalitions, forging deep relationships, and taking action now. 🎧 Tune in, join the conversation, and step into a new era of healing, connection, and purpose. 🚀 Ready to go deeper? Join us on [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]The Healing with Horses Compass [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com/subscribe]—our new Substack for raw reflections, real conversations, and a community built on belonging. PS—When You're Ready... Ready to lead your first equine-assisted healing session? Download our First Session Template—discover how to build rapport, safety, & trust on day one, without overwhelming your client and horses! 100% free, but only for a limited time—Check out a new approach to first sessions, no matter your experience level. https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869Get Your First Session Template Here! [https://www.myhorsejourney.com/pl/2148630869] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit myhorsejourney.substack.com [https://myhorsejourney.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]