Selling in the Dwelling

03 - From Zero to Millions: The Rilla Story with Sebastian Jimenez

Most sales reps don’t fail because they lack talent—they fail because they have no idea what they’re doing wrong. That’s the gap Sebastian Jimenez set out to solve with Rilla, a platform built around one simple but powerful idea: capture real sales conversations and turn them into coaching opportunities. What started as a rough concept evolved, through years of trial, error, and market pivots, into one of the fastest-growing sales technology companies in the industry. At the core is a completely different approach to growth. Instead of avoiding mistakes, the focus is on learning from them, fast. By reviewing conversations the same way athletes study game film, sales reps can see exactly what worked, what didn’t, and where they lost the deal. That level of visibility, paired with AI-driven feedback, creates what Sebastian calls “human reinforcement learning,” a system where reps improve through constant iteration, not guesswork. The result isn’t just better performance, it’s faster development, stronger teams, and a clear competitive edge. Lessons for Dwellers *  Why most sales reps plateau, and how to break that cycle  *  How reviewing your sales calls like game film accelerates growth  *  The concept of “human reinforcement learning” in real-world sales  *  Why fast failure leads to faster success  *  How AI is transforming sales coaching and development  *  What elite teams do differently to improve faster Connect with Sebstian Jiminez on LinkedIn: @SebastainJiminez [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastian-jimenez-690149149/] Check out: Rilla.com [https://www.rilla.com/] Connect with your host Allan Langer on LinkedIn: @AllanLanger [https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanlanger/] Check out Allan Langer's website: The 7 Secrets Sales Academy [https://allanger.com/] Visit our Title Sponsor: Paradigm Vendo [https://info.paradigmvendo.com/partners/selling-in-the-dwelling-podcast/?utm_source=sellinginthedwelling.com&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Advertising+-+Selling+in+the+Dwelling+Podcast+Vendo] The Best software for the in-home sales industry! Visit our sponsor for the Ask Allan segment of the show: Destination Motivation [https://www.increaseoursales.com/] Increase your close rate and decrease your cancellations!

02 - The Future of Sales Presentations with Dean Curtis of Ingage

In this episode of Selling in the Dwelling, Allan Langer sits down with Dean Curtis, CEO of Ingage, the incredible software presentation platform that is transforming the industry. They both break down how modern in-home sales is shifting—and why the traditional “flip book” or linear presentation is quietly killing your close rate.  Dean shares how Ingage was built to solve a real problem: sales reps need to be able to think, move, and respond in real time. From his background in tech with Apple and Oracle to leading a platform used across the home improvement industry, he explains why the future of selling isn’t about better scripts - it’s about better experiences.  One of the biggest shifts? Sales reps can now review exactly how they presented - what they showed, when they showed it, and how long they stayed there - just like a football team reviews game film. That level of visibility turns every appointment into a coaching opportunity, helping reps refine their approach and improve faster than ever. You're not going to want to miss this very "Ingaging" episode! Lessons for Dwellers *  Why a rigid sales process is costing you deals  *  The power of a non-linear, customer-led presentation  *  How reviewing your “sales film” makes you better, faster  *  Why better experiences are beating better products  *  How technology can elevate (not replace) great salespeople  *  The role of curiosity and coaching in building stronger teams Connect with Curtis Dean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanc23/ [ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/deanc23/] Check out Ingage.io [https://ingage.io/] Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Selling in the Dwelling 01:55 The Origin Story of Ingage 05:40 Dean Curtis' Career Journey 09:38 The Evolution of Ingage's Focus 13:26 The Nonlinear Sales Process 17:08 The Importance of Customer Experience 20:56 Ingage's Role in Sales Training 24:53 Leadership Style and Company Culture 28:37 Future Trends in In-Home Selling 32:26 Hiring for Curiosity and Ownership 36:13 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs Connect with your host Allan Langer on LinkedIn: @AllanLanger [https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanlanger/] Check out Allan Langer's website: The 7 Secrets Sales Academy [https://allanger.com/] Visit our Title Sponsor: Paradigm Vendo [https://info.paradigmvendo.com/partners/selling-in-the-dwelling-podcast/?utm_source=sellinginthedwelling.com&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Advertising+-+Selling+in+the+Dwelling+Podcast+Vendo] The Best software for the in-home sales industry! Visit our sponsor for the Ask Allan segment of the show: Destination Motivation [https://www.increaseoursales.com/] Increase your close rate and decrease your cancellations!

01 - The 360-Degree Sales Professional, with Matt Esler of Renewal by Andersen and Esler Companies

What does it really take to build a billion-dollar business in the home improvement space and still sleep at night? In this kickoff episode of Selling in the Dwelling, Allan Langer sits down with Matt Esler, owner of one of THE largest Renewal by Andersen affiliates in the United States, to unpack what separates high-volume sales from true, sustainable success. This conversation goes beyond scripts and closes. Matt shares how shifting from transactional selling to a customer-first experience completely changed the trajectory of his business, and why the best sales professionals today aren’t just closers, they’re problem solvers. From building a culture that values teammates as much as customers, to redefining what it means to be a “top producer,” this episode is a masterclass in doing business the right way (and still winning big). Lessons for Dwellers *  Why customer experience matters even when they don’t buy *  The difference between high volume and high-quality sales  *  How to build a sales culture people actually want to be part of  *  Why referrals and repeat business should be your focus  *  The mindset shift that separates average reps from top performers  *  What it really takes to grow, and sustain, a massive business  If you’re in sales, leadership, or building something of your own, this episode will challenge how you think about success, and how you show up to earn it. Connect with Matt Esler on LinkedIn: @MattEsler [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-esler-5b844651/] Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Selling in the Dwelling Podcast 00:57 The Journey of Matt Esler 04:35 Growth and Success of Esler Companies 09:08 Customer Experience Focus in Home Improvement 14:48 Building a Positive Company Culture 22:20 Entrepreneurial Beginnings and Lessons Learned 31:31 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs Connect with your host Allan Langer on LinkedIn: @AllanLanger [https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanlanger/] Check out Allan Langer's website: The 7 Secrets Sales Academy [https://allanger.com/] Visit our Title Sponsor: Paradigm Vendo [https://info.paradigmvendo.com/partners/selling-in-the-dwelling-podcast/?utm_source=sellinginthedwelling.com&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Advertising+-+Selling+in+the+Dwelling+Podcast+Vendo] The Best software for the in-home sales industry! Visit our sponsor for the Ask Allan segment of the show: Destination Motivation [https://www.increaseoursales.com/] Increase your close rate and decrease your cancellations!